playBunny: probably have to be a knight and experiment

Fencer: [Runs off to Membership Levels] "Hmm, nothing changed there, but then that'll be the last part of any changes. Where else can I look..?"

I wonder what it was you did..

playBunny: Hmmmm, maybe I did.

Fencer: I didn't ask you to change anything .I just express my "bad" feeling about this thing. I thought that's why we have "discussion" bords .

Fencer: "everybody is free to use only features he likes."

Mostly true. Knights who only play a few games can't utilise the tournament system as they might like because of the one-per-game-type restiction. Eg, a Knight in a multi-year Backgammon tournament can enjoy no other.

Unless you've changed that somewhere along the line?

ZEROZERO: If you think it stinks, don't use it. That's what BrainKing is about, everybody is free to use only features he likes. I think it's pointless to discuss in this way because nobody likes everything. Whatever your point is, I don't play to change anything.

Fencer: that's right ...and nobody "forced" me to pay lol ..I was only paying for those members because I wanted them to enjoy this great site and they didn't have enough money to buy a membership or they didn't have a credit card and so on .... at his moment I'm afraid when I see things like this happen .I think the whole "brain" system stinks .. When a player pays a membership for another person I think you should give the brains automatically ...OK...I didn't read the whole stuff about the brain system , cause, as I said, I'm not interested in all that administration rubbish ....but now , more than one year later I cannot sign up for those tourneys ...I think that sucks a bit :)
We'll see what other improvements are coming up but I don't have a good feeling with this first one :(((

ZEROZERO: The prize tournaments with an entry fee is just one small part of the improved tournament system. And, of course, nobody is forced to pay for other users.

I have my doubts about this tournament system .
I bought lots of memberships for different players with my credit card but since I'm not interested in administration things, I didn't know about the brain system. This means I didn't mention whatever I needed to mention to obtain those brains . Right : at this moment I got 0 brains so I cannot sign up for this "improved" tournament system .
Besides this , I'm afraid this kind of tournaments will create a small group of elite players ..those who got "brains" :))Playing for more brains ....
Oh well ....not my problem ...I will go on playing "normal" games, but I think I'll stop paying new memberships for belgian players who got no credit-card or players who are afraid for internet payments. No more renewals of memberships with my credit card .

Having just posted a redundant reply on another board, I'm curious about the possibility of editing or removing one's own posts. I sometimes see posts flagged as modified, but I haven't found any way to do this. Is this another feature which is only available to paying members?

Czuch Chuckers: No, this kind of bonus always applies to the user for whom the membership was bought. It is done on a system level.

Czuch Chuckers: not to butt in here Chuckers.. but, I have recently purchased 3 membieships and have gotten the credit and the brains for each one.. just add a note to the purchase to credit your account with the brains and bonus..

Pythagoras: BBC :)

Fencer....

If I buy a membership for someone else, can I have the bonus membership in my name instead of theirs, should it be given? Or even saved for use in a prize tournament?

playBunny: Anatomically, it might be more correct to think of extending Rookhood into Pawnness anyway . . .

alanback: Lol. I don't believe you can extend your own Pawness into someone else's Rookhood! But as to who the extension is being applied to ... whomever you nominate.

playBunny: How do you know if you're extending your Pawnness into your own Rookhood or someone else's?

Pythagoras: I believe the answer to 1) is that you don't actually buy memberships, per se, you buy membership extensions. It's just that with some people they are extending their Pawnness into Rookhood. So it would be B).

I asked a similar question to 2) and 3) way back whenever and got the answer "Fencer would work something out", so I'll be interested to hear any further elucidation.

alanback: I was thinking the same......
This system is like:

You completed a purchase of 6 months membership and won another 3 months!

Or......:

You completed a purchase of 6 months membership
and DIDN'T WIN any bonus you sucker.....

I'm risk averse. Instead of a 50% chance at a 50% bonus, can I have a 25% bonus guaranteed?

I have 3 questions. If you are too lazy to answer all 3 then the first is of the most importance for me!


1)What would happen if someone with Rook membership, buy a 6-months Rook membership at 14 February while it still has 5 more months of Rook membership:

A)He would have, starting from 14 February, 6-months of Rook membership....

B)He would have, starting from 14 February, 11-months of Rook membership.....

A) or B) is valid?

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2)What would happen if someone with Rook membership, buy a 6-months Knight membership at 14 February while it still has 5 more months of Rook membership:

A)He would have, starting from 14 February, 6-months of Knight membership....

B)He would have, starting from 14 February, 5-months of rook membership and then 6 motnhs of Knight membership....

C)Something else.....

Is A) or B) or C) valid?

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3)What would happen if someone with Rook membership, buy a 6-months Maharajah membership at 14 February while it still has 5 more months of Rook membership:

A)He would have, starting from 14 February, 6-months of Maharajah membership....

B)He would have, starting from 14 February, 5-months of Rook membership and then 6 months of Maharajah membeship....

C)Something else.....

A) or B) or C) is valid?
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Fwiffo: Right.

The "link" link in the upper right corner of each message is perfect! It is new, right?

alanback: Lol. I haven't got a lawyer's hat to be not sure with but that's okay - I'm already not sure that's true. I'm just remembering bits of conversation from the Feature's Board.

playBunny: Putting on my lawyer hat, I'm not sure that's true, if Brains can be purchased for cash.

Czuch: One key aspect of Brains is that it isn't cash and therefore the tourneys cannot fall foul of gambling prohibitions. (Do a search for gambling on the Features Requests board where there was a conversation about it.)

Marfitalu: Ahhh... thanks, I didnt see that!
Can we do a cash tournament as well?

Czuch Chuckers: gotta admit.... You left yourself open for that one! lol !!!

Czuch Chuckers: You follow the yellow brick road cos the Wizard could help you out

Are brains the only currency to use in these new tournaments? What if I have no brains?

I love the new features... Well done Filip... :)

Beren the 32nd: It will be up to the tournament creator.

How would 3rd prize be decided?
I'm thinking especially of the case where there are two sections, with their winners playing in a final.

Pythagoras: 1) My usual typo. 2) Yes.

Fencer: .
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But Fencer you didn't answer my questions and as a most curious person i'm looking forward.....

To save you of the reading of my somewhat difficult to read posts here are the points:

1)Should in the:......
"a two year membership payment makes a good change to get the whole year for free"?
.......the word "change" should have replaced with "chance"?


2)There is not any 2 year membership available for buying! Only a ½ year or 1 year!
Do you mean buying 2 one year memberships at the same time......?

pauloaguia: Yep and this is true.....While it is also true that exactly 6 months is 50%.

Pythagoras: I'm not trying to get funnyor anything... but don't you mean:
Probability of getting AT LEAST 6 months for free = 75%
?

Fencer: and if you search for free prize tournaments, you'll find the entry-fee tournament as well

playBunny: It will be added.

Fencer: "The latter (two halfs and pairing)."

Excellent.

(Perhaps that snippet of info could be added to the Help text, just for completeness?)

Eriisa: Nope. It's my fault, a small bug in the counter table.
But if you search the keyword "single", your tournament will be found.

When I try to find tourney of 'Single Elimination' It says there are none.

I created 'Single Elimination Back' and that does not show on the search. (trg=13429)

Are we doing something wrong in the creation?

combining data from the brains and the paid membership pages:
- I could pay 18 euro for a year brain knight
or
- I pay 18 euro to get 540 brains, 500 of which I use for a year of brain knight and still have 40 brains

Now i'm not confused and here is how it is:


Probability of getting nothing for free = 25%
Probability of getting EXACTLY 6 months for free = 50%
Probability of getting 1 year for free = 25%


Probability of getting nothing for free = 25%
Probability of getting AT LEAST 6 months for free = 50%
Probability of getting 1 year for free = 25%

I was refering to AT LEAST while you at EXACTLY 6 months....

Actually you might be right and i'm a bit confused right now....

playBunny: The latter (two halfs and pairing).

pauloaguia: Nope.....

Pythagoras: I believe on your second method the odds are more like:
Probability of getting nothing for free = 25%
Probability of getting 6 months for free = 50%
Probability of getting 1 year for free = 25%

Also what do you mean there by: "a two year membership payment makes a good change to get the whole year for free"?

I don't mean that you should have changed the "change" with "chance" (a thing that you should do) i mean the following question:

There is not any 2 year membership available as i see! Only for ½ year or 1 year!
If you mean buying 2 one year memberships at the same time, then i have another strategy:

1)Buying 2 one year memberships at the same time:
Current COST = 2·28 = 56 €
New COST = 2·30 = 60 €
Probability of getting 1 year for free = 50 %
Probability of getting AT LEAST 6 months for free = 50 %
Probability of getting EXACTLY 6 months for free = 0 %


2)Buying 1 one year membership now and the other day another one:
Current COST = 2·28 = 56 €
New COST = 2·30 = 60 €
Probability of getting AT LEAST 6 months for free = 75%
Probability of getting 1 year for free = 25%
Probability of getting EXACTLY 6 months for free = 50%


So what we have is that buying with the second method 2 years, you get 75% of having at least 6 months for free or even 25% for 1 year for free. While with "your" proposed way we have 50% for 1 year for free but if we don't suceed we get nothing more....

I would choose my proposed way as i prefer better chances than better prizes, if actually you will allow the BONUS to be valid this way....According to the aforementioned rules for the bonus, my way is 100% legal.....