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23. февруари 2004, 21:24:41
Czuch 
Относно: Re:
I had my machine unplugged all day while I was gone, and came right here first, everything should be cleared.
Are we all talking webtv? If so maybe we could continue at the webtv fellowship...
Is anyone without webtv having problems?

23. февруари 2004, 21:22:15
Czuch 
Относно: Re:
Yeah, I can't even click on my main page right now, and there is a backgammon game where one piece wont let me move it.

For the white screen, I usually just hit the back button, then scroll up to the main page link and go from there. This might be quicker for you :)

23. февруари 2004, 21:22:12
Bernice 
yes i have just had that myself and had to shut down...it good now...

23. февруари 2004, 21:18:31
bwildman 
I get it alot too...usually have to shut off...then restart.Sometimes that helps,but not always.I also get a white screen afer submitting a move..and have to log back in to continue....then theres the good ole"brainking.com is to busy to use"

23. февруари 2004, 20:46:51
Czuch 
Относно: 'kind of information that can't be used'
I keep getting this message the past several days. It varys from tome to time where it happens. I have cleared my cache etc... Sometimes it is in a game, other times it is trying to get to the main pqge.

Is anyone else with this problem?


Also, I asked before, but it got lost.
hen the game time is suspended, the time continues to run on the games. Is this right?
It seems to me that if the site is having problems enough to use the game time out option, then the game clocks should stop also.
What am I missing here?
Yhanks :)

23. февруари 2004, 20:08:30
MidnightMcMedic 
I've already passed ya backoff so ther :P LOL

23. февруари 2004, 20:02:46
noholdsbarred 
Относно: Commercial concern
Fencer.. I do not think there are many who would object to you running this more on a commercial basis, as long as the paying customer came first. It is your choice to run this how you will, but I firmly believe that the labourer is worthy of his hire, and that it should be possible without changing the site flavour to much.
I respect your right to give your time and effort for free but would rather see you garner the rewards rather than those who take advantage of your generosity.

23. февруари 2004, 19:59:09
Backoff 
In other news, I'm only 12 loses away from 1000!!!!!

23. февруари 2004, 19:58:38
bwildman 
*makes pouty face and goes to his Cave*

23. февруари 2004, 19:54:32
harley 
All I ask is that you don't go too far away from the subject of this board, and don't make offensive comments.

23. февруари 2004, 19:47:51
bwildman 
yes...I will try to follow suit for the current BrainKing.com propaganda.

23. февруари 2004, 19:45:37
harley 
bwild, I didn't think it was funny, and I doubt the person it was aimed at did, either. Also, theres a separate board for jokes :oP

23. февруари 2004, 19:43:27
bwildman 
it was a joke! geeshLOL:)

23. февруари 2004, 19:40:47
coan.net 
[reply edited in response to other edited message] -BBW

23. февруари 2004, 19:38:22
bwildman 
[offensive message edited]
(but not by me! bwildman)

23. февруари 2004, 19:32:29
bwildman 
Относно: that a shame,Linda
of the 31 contestants in my prize tourny..14 are pawns.But there was no charge to join.

23. февруари 2004, 19:29:29
coan.net 
I agree with what Fencer said also. This is a game site.

I personaly did not pay my membership to just play games here, because there are plenty of other places I can just play games. My membership was paid for the "extras" that are above and beyond just the games.

Suggestion: If I was a new pawn to this site and had a question, I would not know to go look for customer service people on a different site! Could there be a way (like an option on the left side) to "contact customer service", or "ask a question to customer service" that pawns could use? Then have the question possible go to the "Customer Service Discussion Board" where it could then be answered and/or delt with.

OH - And something I know I do not say enough: Fencer, you are doing a GREAT JOB with the game site! Your hard work is appricated!

23. февруари 2004, 19:20:54
Linda J 
Good point Fencer.
Pawns have a lot of chances to play here for free.
Members have been quite generous where they are concerned.
We have the boost a pawn program and now a prize tournament where they are almost guaranteed a membership for almost nothing only 3 have taken advantage of it. Very sad I think.

23. февруари 2004, 19:20:31
bwildman 
I'm not offended,Carlos...and I dont mean to offend Fencer either...but someone needs to be realistic here in cyberland.
Yes...this is a gamesite...one with some extremely talented players.But it is also turned into a cyber-community...were friendships have been formed.
Its the discussion boards and the fellowships that make BrainKing different from other sites.
Its a shame,Fencer, you dont get paid to run this site and play games and moniter discussion boards..but eventually,I'm sure there will be a paid BrainKing.com staff.
But removing features that were once there,features many of us have paid for...seems to be taking steps backwards and not forwards.
I guess I'm playing the devils advocate here...but in order to remain positive...sometimes you have to ask about the negatives.

23. февруари 2004, 19:06:49
Caissus 
Относно: Re:
It`s my opinion, too!

23. февруари 2004, 19:03:34
Fencer 
Thank you Carlos.

23. февруари 2004, 19:02:37
CaoZ 
Относно: Re:
I totally agree whith you Fencer, and to remark this is a GAME SITE, i see that most of the players are more concerned to chat and not in to play. Its not my intention to offend anybody, but take a moment to think ¿What its the escential of a GAME SITE???

Carlos

23. февруари 2004, 19:02:33
Fencer 
It seems unfair to me that I am not paid for this work. And do I complain about it?

23. февруари 2004, 18:59:31
bwildman 
try dropping the discussion boards..and see how long your members stick around.They are as much a feature as the games.Especially the fellowships.
It just seems unfair to me,that people want to discuss their future...and they have no input.

23. февруари 2004, 18:46:45
Fencer 
What's the problem with pawns unable to post on most of the boards? If they have a problem, there is our customer service on BrainKing.info. And I don't think that $10 is too much to get extra features.
This is mostly a game site, not a chat site. Discussion boards are just an addition.

23. февруари 2004, 18:07:10
coan.net 
Fencer is the final person to decide who is bad or not.

I have not seen any bad paying members for awhile (and when i say bad, that is spam message boards & curse and such). Currently paid members are easier to control, where as a pawn could keep creating new accounts and causing the same trouble over and over. (1 bad apple.)

Fencer will have to answer about the updated version 2.0 - and if it is still going to be awhile, it might be an idea to at least open 1 or 2 of the main message boards to pawns so they can at least post any problems or questions they have.

23. февруари 2004, 18:01:41
bwildman 
but getting back to the pawn issue...there are bad paying members! who decides who is bad and who's not?
the 2.0 version has been promised for sometime now..and no definete date in site! So how mch longer canwe use this excuse?

23. февруари 2004, 17:50:29
harley 
I'll be steering you two over to the fellowship board if you're going to name EVERY fellowship!

23. февруари 2004, 17:44:48
bwildman 
LOL...their getting dusty!

23. февруари 2004, 17:42:15
coan.net 
... and The Cave, and the Sunshine Club, and the Power House, and the ...... (HEY - I did not mention any of my own fellowships either!) :-)

23. февруари 2004, 17:38:52
bwildman 
oh sure!! dont mention The Cave!! LOL:)

23. февруари 2004, 17:28:35
coan.net 
It may be that I understood wrong, but once BK 2.0 is out, Pawns will once again be able to post - I think it is just a temporary thing until Fencer can "control" some of the "bad pawns".

My personaly feelings about pawn accounts.

1. This is a game site, and I don't think the basic of game play should be messed with for pawns - that is up to 20 free games at a time, and 1 tournament at a time.

(and some of the changes I would like to see):

2. For non-tournament games, pawn can only play non-rated games. The purpose of this is to stop people from cheating - making free pawn accounts to help their ratings. Yes, there are plenty of good pawns who do not cheat, but in my opinion the result is better for the game site as a whole.

3. Tournament games that pawns play in can be rated. I'm still debating if (or if not) their ratings should be hidden, or shown - or including in the main ratings list, or not shown, etc....

4. I would like to see a pawn be able to join 1 fellowship as a "junior member" - that is they can see what is going on, read the message boards - but NOT join a team and NOT play in their tournaments. A few of the fellowships (Home, Madhouse, etc...) could be a very good way for a pawn to see what goes on in a fellowship and possible be a reason for them to become a paid member!. (Also with the rule that a pawn can not jump from fellowship to fellowship - but pick one - maybe have a choice of a few that the BIG BOSSes would like to help pawns, etc...) So all the pawn is really getting is another message board to read, but a chance to talk and interact with many of the nice users in these fellowships!

OK, that is all i can think of now. If a pawn is reading this and has other ideas or thoughts, you can send me a private message, and I can try to pass along your thoughts (even if they do not agree with mine!) :-)

23. февруари 2004, 16:44:47
bwildman 
Относно: getting back to pawns...
we all know the pawns can read the boards,and yet people talk about them like their not here.
I think not allowing them to post on the public boards is a blackeye to the system...and I for one,would be interested in what several have to say on the different topics that are onesidedly brought up concerning their future with BrainKing.

23. февруари 2004, 14:09:09
Stevie 
How do you know LJ, pawns cant post, so may have been having probs but couldnt say , and theres probably a few who do not use the boards ;o)

*edited by Steve so LJ post looks silly now* ;oÞ

23. февруари 2004, 13:30:11
MidnightMcMedic 
Maybe he does. Or maybe its not an uneducated guess. Never can tell....

23. февруари 2004, 08:12:49
Bernice 
Относно: ??
""It is currently accessible from all countries""

how would LJ know that , or is it an uneducated guess..I must admit i am confused.
LJ often states that ALL of this is right or wrong etc....it give the feeling that he has inside information that the rest of us dont have :)

23. февруари 2004, 07:36:51
Lythande 
On occasion, the country does make a difference... on others it could be the city or even that street. It depends on the route taken and the hardware along that path, as well as your own machine and the server(s).

23. февруари 2004, 07:01:57
Stevie 
Ive had probs before that have not been bk nor my system, its been my isp lost dns somethings, and gave me limited use on websites, so was ok on main pages but couldnt get any deeper etc.
I guess this means Ellie could have had a bk problem even though others in other countries didnt :o)

23. февруари 2004, 06:59:41
Bernice 
OH??...Fencer has had a name change:)

and Im sorry i didnt realize that the message was an old one..your reply ""FENCER"" aka LJ was 15.51pm (my time) and it is currently 15.59 :)

23. февруари 2004, 06:59:19
ellieoop 
Относно: FENCER
it seems to be okay now, and i completed over 50 games with no other problems.

23. февруари 2004, 06:57:07
ellieoop 
Относно: Re:
i'm so happy that it's working for you LJ.

23. февруари 2004, 06:54:48
Bernice 
I had problems earlier Fencer, telling me the page cant be found...i restarted and havent had any probs since...
Also just because it is accessible from one country Fencer, does that mean it is also accessible from ALL countries?

23. февруари 2004, 06:53:09
Stevie 
Thats amazing, Fencer has changed his name to Longjohn LMAO

23. февруари 2004, 06:50:54
ellieoop 
Относно: Re:
when i click main page, i get page can't be found, when i go in thru my opponents profile and then our game, i then use the drop box, and that lets me play all my games, it works, so that's okay for me, i know it will be back to normal soon.

23. февруари 2004, 06:47:01
Fencer 
ellieoop: How come you cannot get to the main page?

23. февруари 2004, 06:32:48
ellieoop 
i can't get the main page, i went into my opponents profile to pull up our games, and that's the way i'm able to play. if anyone is wondering why i'm going into their profile, that's why.

23. февруари 2004, 05:32:39
Stevie 
She didnt touch my horn ;oÞ definate banning material LMAO

23. февруари 2004, 05:32:15
Bernice 
my original post is NOT off topic....it shouldnt be...not my problem if there are inane posts.

23. февруари 2004, 05:29:26
Stevie 
Youll get me blushing in a minute Bernice :o*)

But we got a few hours before Harleys up and on here again LMAO

23. февруари 2004, 05:27:43
Stevie 
we gonna get deleted again LMAO

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