Carnie: Black rook is equivalent to 10 years of rook memberships. Fencer gave me mine, or a reduce price not sure of the amount because of the memberships I bought for tournaments and I sponsored about 10 players here also. I bought thousands of dollars of brains and put them in tournaments as well. I think its around 600 usd? Have no complaints because I made many friends here and even traveled to meet some of them. I had a fellowship called in it to win it where all the tournaments were prizes.

Carnie: But Carnie it was the total opposite years ago. We sent him money to keep it going and over 100 black rooks. So some may think fencer already took advantage.

Board for everybody who is interested in BrainKing itself, its structure, features and future.

I was hoping on a serious conversation folks and trying to get Filip to stop in and comment but he never will join in if we moan and groan. I know many could care less but was hoping a few did with a little coin in their piggy bank. Or is it even worth it at this point?

Several of the most argumentative posts are gone. Some responses to them that don't make sense now with those other ones gone are deleted too.

There will NOT be personal bickering on this board. As was stated on the Fellowship board earlier.

And yes, General Chat should PLEASE try to be kept to "General Chat" board. It's certainly not a big emergency, but there is no reason why general conversation can't go there.

Thank you for understanding

Don't make me laugh.

Carnie: Let's take this chat to the General Chat board. Okay?

Carnie: What is margaritaville ? But we have to careful what we discuss on the board so keep it brief lol.

ellieoop: You do that.

you're funny..you have no problem keeping up with the posts..I won't post on this board if it has nothing to do with brainking.com

They don't moan on this board..can we keep this board and feature requests the way it's supposed to be?.if you want to chat on the club board, that's fine with me.

ellieoop: I don't like fighting with people. I'm here for fun. I don't want problems. Me and my friend have stopped chatting on the board of the gammon club, as you want. We will talk elsewhere. But I'm going to ask to Doris what is possible to do on the board of her f/s. Just try to be a little tolerant with other people. It would be nice. Don't forget : we're here to spend a good time. Thank you.

ellieoop: Sorry you feel like that. But people moan about how dead the message boards are and then when they liven up people moan about that too. New Challenge games the players get a message letting them know that challenge match has been set up. Also should you be complaining about that in The Gammon Cube message board rather than in here??

I click that as I always have when I want to see if new challenges are listed, now I get all of you chatting. don't tell,me to lighten up, if you guys can't chat on the general chat board I don't have go that board, now you can tell me if I can't lighten up, i can quit that club. If I want to see who's chatting I'll go to the chat board. don't ruin the boards.i don't have to ruin your fun, I can just quit the club..I've been in that club since Coen started it. It's no big deal..

Mélusine: Bravo!

ellieoop: In a f/s, the BB decides what can be written or not on the boards. For the gammon club : If Doris doesn't want that we talk about differents subjects, I'll stop chatting. On the contrary, I'll go on talking with the other members of the f/s.

ellieoop: Come on lighten up, on the gammon cube board it can be used to any open discussion. You can see where games are posted on the right hand side.

The same thing is happening on the gammon cube board.l when I see posts there I look to see what games are posted.

Mélusine:

ellieoop: Well it is active you cannot deny that lol.

ellieoop: Sorry, as I read several boards, I didn't pay attention to the theme of this board.

Is this now a general chat board?

heavenrose: It depends what games you want to play. And me, I like to play very rapidly, time with 2 days, not more.

hey can someone explain me, why someone that i have blocked can reply to a comment of me to another person

Carnie: Well its sort of on autopilot now. I'm sure a lot has to do with BK revenue and paying the overhead. I know that BK can fix a lot of issues automatically but I'm not sure what would happen if some software failed. I hope Fencer has plans or some negotiations going on. In my opinion if he gets some membership support and nothing serious fails I think we will see BK in 2018 just no guarantees as he stated in January 2017

rod03801: You know Rod I thought about that word but I selected the wrong abstract noun. lol. I think I lost my point on that statement. You know what I think of your relationship with fencer and BK. When ever you have to moderate people they hate you....like emma even fencer had to put her on total ban.

I didn't mean to stab at you buddy. This place would of been a hate zone without mods and usually your the only one available when a mod is needed.

Marshmud:
Hate me?! WOW. Guess it's those people who can't accept someone doing their job. I would like to think if those "haters' knew me on a more personal level, they might realize I'm not a monster.

Anyway, good thing I don't let something like that bother me. I don't know the people personally who hate me either. Though I also don't "hate" anyone here. There may have been a couple over the years though. lol. but they seem to be long gone. And I probably didn't "hate" them either. "Strongly annoyed" maybe. And I possibly thought they were immature *****s. But there's plenty of those in the world anyway, not just here.

I DO love this site very much.
Have a good weekend

ellieoop: and the WebTV days. Gee time is flying....lol

ellieoop: I have known Patrick Chu since around 1997 when he was attending University of NC where IYT was born. It came online and been in operation since 1998.Developing, testing, and supporting IYT is handled by Patrick, two other full-time software developers, and a part-time support staff.ItsYourTurn.com has over 3,000,000 registered accounts, records around 1,000,000 game moves per day that result in over 5 million daily page views. I think with a BK staff this site could of grown to unknown possibilities. I think when fencer and paypal had the fight about the brains and paypal insisting it was gambling (you know paypal right your wrong all the time) I think when he discontinued the brains it was the beginning of the end. Some may remember that and people complaining because fencer took down that payment option for paying membership. We also must say fencer should of had a PR moderater and he should of just counted the money. Pat Chu discontinued the public board because its impossible to babysit millions of folks. It got out of hand. I must give fencer credit, he took a lot of rude remarks but allowed the public boards to remain. Many of us hate Rod, but think what it would of been without him, even if he may had been wrong in his decisions.

I guess my point is there is no other site I know of which you can create your own fellowship, or a gamesite of your own within a main site. The idea to send out your own invitations, create your own games and perimeters is very unique. I hate to see this die. I still see a light at the end of the tunnel. I wish fencer would consider a "down payment" while he holds the finiancing note he could help a team of buyers and a programmer understand his code. Fencer did say in the past he would stick around 1 year for free and help out a new owner, but that was a few years back and things have changed. I think a advertising campaign and a new programmer would only begin a rebirth here at BK but many think its too late.

Marshmud: In my country, Brainking isn't known but Itsyourturn is known. Perhaps it's the same in other countries and it could be a reason.

Marshmud:

Seems the bigger the site the bigger it gets

Marshmud: Yes Brainking is a far superior game site to itsyourturn in my opinion. I played in IYT years ago and left before they closed down the discussion boards. I re-joined in 2013 and to me the site was so dated compared to Brainking. It did not appear to have much done to it to improve the site. But it is good fall-back if and when this site closes down.

itsyourturn was the first gamesite of this kind. i joined there in 1999 or beginning of 2000, 2 of the players there were Chad and Taylor, they started goldtoken soon after that, Fencer was playing at goldtoken and one day he announced on one of the boards that he was starting his own site and named it..I came here as soon as I saw his post, then my friends from GT came here and I started a club.. a few of us are still here.. Rodney was already here and had a webtv club and we all joined his club. this was a fun site, I still think it his. I hate to see Fencer leave us..

Marshmud: I can imagine that without implementing BK on social medias and creating new web interfaces it is hard to increase the new user rate, even if the main bugs get solved by a new programmer. to think in future you need also someone being able to spread the wold through internet and social medias, so that it reaches out new people... I actually believe that without a good pr actions and implementing i.e. into facebook games etc. it can be harder even for a new team, which only focus on programming. if the goal is to get new users, there must be thought about new ways...maybe.

but if there are some players which you mentioned with ability and knowledge about BK, would be interesting to hear their view on it. But I guess we will never know? Did someone ask directly Fencer about his perspective on a minimum amount for taking over the side?

can anyone explain why itsyourturn has 3+ million registered players and BK has 117,000 and BK is such a superior site and both are near the same age? Just curious for input. It still seems like BK could generate income still. Is this site to far gone? I mean to have a fair price tag? I don't see it possible unless a player/programmer like fencers old partner Liquid would work for future profits and a percentage of all income. Or a Mctrivia or ThunderGR or playbunny comes along and works for free. Each of these player/programmers spent a lot of time considering doing so in the past. I think the price tag for BK was just a little to high but BK is a premium site. I just wanna pull a Donald Trump and purchase it as a distressed company however I don't believe the current owner sees it that way. It is his dream and baby so I understand that as well.

Marshmud: Im sure he was active on this site through other processes, since he reacted some days ago to a contact mail of me. so i don't think he doesn't care. i believe he does. but he's a programmer, he does other ways to keep in touch through the contact mail form without logging in or make visible actions to anyone of us...

so yes, everything was already talked about a lot of times, doesn't make it less interesting to speak again about or even to make jokes about, right? haha

it's still the biggest mistery what happens after 2018, so yes, it will come up again and again on all discussion boards, why not?

Aganju: I agree

And I'm not sure if anyone notices that fencer is gone for days at a time without logging in and the site runs fine. I know we are not going to get new games and features fixed but I would like to at least see it move on as it is until someone hopefully buys it. I donated to BK in the past and would do so in the future if I knew it would stay online.

Brian1971: You are correct and we have talked about this many times now. Its a different world with international affairs dealing with internet gaming and the tax laws and loop holes. Fencer has enormous taxes to pay on his sale of BK.
. Its very expensive for lawyers to protect your money...its more of a hand shake when you buy the gamesite and have the data transferred too your server of choice. The data comes from the other side of the planet its not like you have a 800# to call and complain. Its a risk to anyone that is not a programmer.

Aganju: Some of us has communicated with fencer and we do know what he has in mind. Now I assume that price may have changed in the past few years. Now since he wont list a price tag or the fact we have no programmers willing to work for free I think it is immaterial what we chat about until a price is communicated. I don't think it was worth 50g in 2015 and I'm sure its not now. In the eyes of the owner a serious offer may not be what we think it is. With that said you would think others here at BK would like to know the asking price and many have asked publically with no replies. On the other hand we have no idea what has been communicated privately.

OK let's be optimistic for a moment and say either one or more people came up with the money to buy Brainking from Fencer. Who will be the administrator that will take time each day to make sure all is running the way it should? If you are going to add new games, who will do the programming for these new games? How are the monthly fees going to be paid to keep the site up and running? You are not just buying a game site, you are investing in a real business. A business that needs good and proper financial bookkeeping records and a way to pay expenses and if their are any salaries to pay, making sure payroll is met. Running the site may also take you away from other aspects of your personal life with friends and family with no guarantee of making a profit on your investment. Before diving in make sure you have a solid business plan that a bank would buy into if you ever needed to borrow money for the site. A lot to think about than just buying a game site to play games. You can play games in a lot of different sites. I am not discouraging anyone from doing this, but make sure you have all your ducks in a row first. Pay a business lawyer for about an hour of their time to discuss how to do this.