well thank you, aragon, too!

LMAO
Rose has joined the reversi ladder but we need more to join, must be more than 3 8x8 players on this site LOL

I don't like 8x8 much.. sorry

See other reversi board for notice of ladders :o) will include anti, if enough interest

I have proof (confession by himself) now, he is using programme to play reversi 8x8 on here, so I would suggest you do not play chessmaster1000 at rev 8x8 he is cheating

figures, if he names himself after a chess program LOL
I ran into him on IYT and yes, I was sure he was using a program

Pretty sad when the person admits it as if its perfectly alright to play using a program. That's just really sad!

I think he needs removing from the ratings for reversi

Has anyone explained to him that is isn't right to use a programme? Maybe he thinks lots of people use them and its ok.

roflmao
yeah right Harley, cmon, everyone knows it is cheating.

Maybe now that he has been uncovered he wont play anymore games like Blaikner when she was uncovered. She still comes on here, but never plays LOL

no Harl no one has but it is a really good idea. I have a note in to fencer and see what he says in the morning.

should still have bkr reset even then, because its a false one that he has

yup, agreed

LongJohn, not necessarily. For some people its standard practice to use programmes. Its the way he readily admitted it that makes me wonder if he really does know that its bad form to use them. If nobody tells him he may not know.
I agree about the ratings though, if they're gained by using a programme, they're not true ratings of his ability.

They probably wouldnt aqllow a programme to be used in a tourny, so I think its obvious to anyone that its cheating, I agree with LJ

make a note in the diary of that LOL

ok, I just picked myself up off the floor, re-read it and it is true, Steve and I agree on something that is not just the Holden Commodore LOL

Holden comadore, reversi board, keep on topic mmmmmmm 5 forward and 1 Reversi gear LMAO

does this make me look like a proggy user??????
(typed with wzebra as userid)
ROFLMAO

I am not sure that my rating here is a true reflection of my ability - since the Worlds I have been off form. However I have had to catch some very early trains to take part and I generally cannot sleep on them. Anyone brits going to Cambridge this Saturday?

nah, just stupid LOL

Nope not me Arnie, not good enough yet ;o)
But your bkr was also falsified due to a lot of time outs recently and now building back up, too quickly may I add LOL

I decided to rename myself after my favourite othello program. I am a fan of it because I just love the way it humiliated Takeshi Murakami in 1996.

I wonder how it would fair against Chessmaster1000?
LOL

Murakami was at the time the best human player in the world, who won the world title that year, though he didn't have it all his own way and almost fell to the sucker punch of Garry Edmead.

does anyone know when best BKR and positions will come back on?

Seems that Steve and I have broken away from the pack and sit atop in 1st and 2nd in the Reversi 6x6 ladder

kd5svqJT: with Brainking 2.0

But only 3 have signed up so far LOL

From: Chessmaster1000
Date and time: 27. April 2004, 12:28:54
Subject: Hello.

Well, i saw the discussion about me on Reversi 8x8 boards about cheating by using a program. Well the truth is that i play the game by myself and when i have doubts i open the program i've created and see the moves it's suggests. I didn't know this is forbidden here so i've done it many times. Not always. So it's not a case of cheating but a case of ignorance. I even saw a player called logistello and i wondered if he was using logistello.
Since the games here are in a correspondence form i thought using a program for the best possible play was legal. It seems that's not the case.
But i haven't seen anywhere in the FAQ's that using a program is not allowed, so it seemed to me perfectly logical to use a program.

Anyway from now on, i would inform the opponent before the game, that (s)he is going to play with a human and possibly with a computer. I say possibly, as in not all of my games, i played with the help of my program. And if he accepts this OK. If not, again OK. So everything is fine.

As for my Reversi 8x8 BKR, the moderators can't do everything they want. As i can't write to the Reversi discussion board, could you please tranfer these, for letting the moderator to know?

LOL
Quote from below
when i have doubts i open the program i've created and see the moves it's suggests

In other words, when I am stumped and not doing so well I will let the computer take over.

Thats what I dont like, I was also told "I dont like to lose" so the programme is so they dont have losses by genuine players :o(

I dont think they realise that Logistello is Arnie LOL

what is "retaehc" spelt backwards?

I think the guy sounds genuine enough. He has explained his position, on which he's actually right, there isn't anything specific in the rules about using programmes.
He's also said from now on he'll inform his opponent that he may use a programme. What more can you ask? He's been very open and upfront in my opinion. Give him a break!

sorry Harley but honestly, you have a valid point but I cannot agree here. He has openly admitted to resorting to a program when "the going gets tough" No matter how someone defends themselves, that is point blank cheating. We will have to agree to disagree on this one I am afraid

And make sure someone suggests to Filip to please add in his list of rules that using programs to play is a form of cheating and therefore not allowed.
I don't wanna play anyone whos using a program I can tell u that.. why bother playing when you know a program is going to beat you?

may as well save money on your internet connection and play the proggy on your own computer instead if you are gonna do that

I see your point LongJohn :o) I really do.
But I do think as long as he states before the start of the game that he may use a programme - and his opponent agrees - then its ok. Anyone here may be using a programme without his/her opponent knowing. At least this guy is upfront about it. But I can see why it causes anger too.

I was duped as were others who played him this week and I would like to see his wins taken away. I work hard at my reversi rating and I am not happy that a cheat program was used to kick my butt. Can't help that sorry.

We have a rating system here, it wouldnt be good if the players at the top, were there not by their own doing, holding genuine players off of being up there

Dammit Steve, please say something I disagree with, this is becoming a little too common

That's true too.
I just would have liked the option to know he was using aprogram when we played. I didnt know until he had won an basically admitted it and then said I was good but he was better. Not amused. Some people take their chess seriously, I take my reversi very seriously. I am hoping that game is deleted from the records!

looks to me like he really was trying to take credit and feel good about the win using a program and that it made him feel superior to you. Sounds like it could possibly be an inferiority complex to me. Maybe IYT would be better for him.

Well he has said that he didn't realise it wasn't allowed here. I guess for all he knew the majority of players he was against also used programmes. I don't know the guy and have never played him, but I feel he is being judged a bit harshly. He wasn't aware of the feelings about programmes, and has said he will make his opponent aware in future if he wishes to use one. Ratings will even out again and there doesn't seem much harm done. Everyone makes mistakes, he's admitted his and is willing to not make them again in future play.
I'll pull my head back in now!

Have you thought about this...
...Was knowing what he was doing,
Then gets caught out and has to admit it, unfortunately to someone who will say how it is and warn people etc etc instead of cower in the corner not saying anything or standing up for them for no reason.
So then comes up with a planned get out line of.....I didnt know it wasnt allowed..

you pulled it in just in time LOL
But I think you are really giving him an incredible amount of BOTD (benefit of the doubt)
Must be the mother coming out in you :)

LOL could well be, LJ! I do believe everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt when possible. If he continues to use the programme over and over without telling anyone (and the better players here can always tell), THEN would be the time for harsh judgement.
Stevie, I have thought about it, and of course its possible. But its also possible that he's a genuine guy who made a mistake without realising.

it is possible I will win a million dollars in the lottery tomorrow

Chess master wrote me an apology message this evening. He felt bad and didnt realize he said that it was wrong to use an analizing program to help out in games. He said he wants the game between us deleted as well ( fencer can you do that please? Confirm with chessmaster1000 on this) I have offered up another game to chessmaster saying I want to play him without him using any programs, I will make it 10x10. I appreciate that he is trying to make amends for his actions!

it might be worthwhile having Fencer check his ip address against other users. May be a multi id

Since the recent ban from Brainking that I endured, I have come back and just do not seem to be able to get back into rev 6x6 (which was my best game) :o( If anyone who has recently played me has noticed where I am going wrong, I would be grateful for some advice :o)
See these sort of things do affect us, so all I can do is blame others for it