Marshmud: I'm not running for president. If that was aimed at me, I was not complaining about anything you said. In fact I was agreeing. Someone else seems to be complaining?

Marshmud: Yes, and the strategy of the Democratic party (at least the most left end of it anyway) is to get more and more ppl dependent on the government, as they are most likely to keep voting them in, since they end up depending on the handouts.

It's sickening.

I too was brought up to depend on MYself.

Marshmud: I doubt anyone considers anyone's grandparents as being the problem ppl.

(V): The quote, and the controversy is ONLY about Federal Income tax. No one else is talking about the other taxes.

(V): Depends on where you live!
There's federal income taxes
Some states have income taxes (I live in a state that doesn't)

Some states have sales taxes (I live in a state that doesn't)

Then of course there are "Property Taxes" (Mostly to towns/cities ? But I rent, so I don't know how it goes, honestly. Maybe some goes to the State?)

And then also there is registering your car - some of that goes to state, some to town/city.

And of course any local fines, etc, which of course is quite avoidable.

But again. The thing AD is talking about with that stuff about 49% has to deal ONLY with the Federal Income taxes.

It's ridiculous that anyone can say the "rich" don't pay their fair share, when half the country pays NO federal income taxes

Some of this stuff is getting a little too personal again, and needs to stop, please.

Keep it to the topics, and not what you would have to do to be like someone else posting, etc.

Thanks!

(V): So, they are justified in killing and raping and burning and just being thugs?

One of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

Anyone who believes that has to be as nutty as they are.

Iamon lyme: If you mean me, you couldn't be more wrong. (and you may not, but just in case) I was brought up Baptist. And had very good experiences with the members of my church.
You won't be surprised (if you know me at all) that I will not get into my personal reasons for deciding that organized religion is not for me. Not on a discussion board on the internet, with total strangers. Not my style. Generally

And because of some of the passions on this board, I feel forced to point out yet again, that I'm also NOT Atheist, because some seem to assume that my .... hmm I can't find the right word right now, but my distaste for the bible, means I must be some godless horrible person.

I just do NOT believe what you believe. That's all.

(V): LOL.. u DO crack me up

Well I have to say. I loved Romney's speech! I'm SO excited for November!

Artful Dodger: Mitt wasn't my first choice by any means. Leans a little lib for me. But I'd probably even vote for (V) if he was the one against Obama


ok, maybe not.

Iamon lyme: Right, but since I don't believe it's a "God-caused" thing, I don't see that it matters a whole lot anyway, if it did or didn't happen literally, or if it's been exaggerated. Except for possibly interesting meteorological history.
Anyway. I don't enjoy religious talk. So, most likely I'm going to bow out of it.

Just sayin... Paul Ryan's speech was awesome. I wish he was the one running for pres.

Iamon lyme: I highly doubt the entire Earth was under water, and if so, I doubt God had anything to do with it. I pretty much assume that if there was indeed massive flooding, it was the entire world as THEY knew it.
Dunno.
And I'm NOT an Atheist.

I have my own personal beliefs that I feel no need to share, as I'm not going to (nor do I care to) change anyone else's mind.

Besides, my attitude is that ANY of us could be right. Or None of us could be right.

Übergeek 바둑이: Maybe that was back before all the continents split apart?
I suppose there's a chance that there is some historic "truth" to the story, but I assume the Bible exaggerated it a bunch, or something has been lost in the "translation" over the years. But, I'm a bit biased I guess, since I am not a fan of the book.

Iamon lyme: Hmm. I like that answer.

The Magician's Nephew was my favorite Narnia book.

Iamon lyme: I'm not a "religious" person at all, nor an expert at Religion. (I wouldn't call my self an Atheist either though) You made me think about something I don't remember any of my religious relatives ever talking about.
Is it "anti Christian" to believe there may be life else where in the universe?
Though, I imagine like everything else, even with THAT there's probably a ton of different views, that can't really be generalized.

The Col: If conservatives are NOT elected, our country will be a miserable mess like parts of Europe, within those 10 years. We are close to the breaking point!

I think you may be thinking more of the social aspect of things, which I suppose I can at least understand a little. Except that I don't believe the federal government should be involved in most of those social aspects at all. (Libs and conservatives will blast me for that. Oh well)

Federal government : smaller the better. Protect our borders and our citizens should be the biggest part of what it does. If it weren't SO involved in everything else, it wouldn't need to confiscate so much of my hard earned money.
And no, I'm NO Mitt Romney with tons of it either. If any thing, I'm barely middle class. But it's those "upper class" people that spend that money and keep us all in jobs. If they and all of us are not allowed to live the "American Dream" where working hard results in success, then why bother working hard. It just breeds mediocrity. It sickens me.
I don't get why this isn't logical to libs and the silly "occupy whatevers"

Of course it's silly to even go 'round n 'round about it all. None of us are going to convince the others that what they believe is wrong.

It's why I tend to sit back and read. I'm a HORRIBLE "debater"

Artful Dodger: I've been wanting to see this movie. I didn't see it coming locally though. However, I just looked, and it is now playing locally. I'm going to try and see it.

Ive listened to a couple interviews Sean Hannity had with the guy behind the movie. Sounds interesting, and disturbing.

Artful Dodger: I listen to the last hour of it on my way home from work. He is the one conservative talk dude that makes sense to me. I watch him on tv rarely, only because I have other shows I like at the same time he is on. He is FAIR and smart. Bugged me that he wouldnt say he was voting for in the primaries. LOL.

Artful Dodger: I'm weird. I'm not part of any of the social networks. I have an account on facebook that I never visit.

I've thought about joining Twitter, to be part of Sean Hannity's following. He's my hero!

Artful Dodger: I think anyone who engages in it right now, is feeding into it though. I say switch it back to the RIGHT conversation. To what is important NOW. The whole abortion debate will be FOREVER. The economy is something that needs fixing NOW.

Ok, I'm being silly. This is just a discussion board on a game site.. LOL.. I think I'm frustrated because it is mirroring what is going on.

I see all this debate on social issues as a distraction. I know on some level, that it IS important. But in the U.S. right now the CRUCIAL issue is the economy. The Libs are LOVING distractions such as this. Because the areas where we can definitely say the Anointed One has failed, is on the economy.
If we get 4 more years of his incompetence, (and the fools in Congress who support him) we will be in big trouble. Worse trouble than The Great Depression. We will be in the same if not worse shape than parts of Europe are in right now.

I can't wait for November. I look SO forward to voting. Only once though. Silly Libs. Only once.

Iamon lyme: BUT.. can you imagine Biden as our president if he was thrown out? Even temporarily?

Hmm.. not sure it would be THAT much worse though.

It's all gobbledy-gook playing with words. There is NO good reason to not require ID. Implemented the sooner the better.

Bill Maher? . What a numbskull HE is! Has NOTHING to do with literacy. Get a grip

It's all background noise. Who cares what either side has to say against it?

Regardless of what party, it should only be people who can legally vote, voting.

And shouldn't make a difference if it's an election year, or a leap year, or a blue moon. Sooner the better.

(V):
Blah blah blah. Nothing to do with race. Nothing to do with party.
I don't care if you are black, white, yellow, purple, Democrat, Republican,Communist,Socialist.

Get a stupid ID and vote. It's only logical.

All the rest of the distractions are just that, distractions. Nothing to do with race. Nothing to do with partisanship.

Voting is important. It's important that only people who can legally vote should vote.

It's really quite simple.

The people who say the poor minorities aren't bright enough to follow the law and have an ID sound like the racists to me.

The Col: HOGWASH. Libs crack me up the way they foolishly spin things.

No one can ever give me a good reason why I.D. SHOULDN'T be required to vote. Most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life. It's just logical. It's one of the most important things we do. One of the biggest responsibilities, and people SHOULD have to prove who they are to do it. God it sickens me when people are stupid about this.

And let's see some proof that the "Right media" started anything : " I really think the media is the main reason behind it.It started on the right, but the left have decided to hit back just as hard , which is fair of course," It would be just yet another distraction to everything. Then someone shows something that the "Left" did earlier. and so on and so on.

Mama! He started it!

Please.

Iamon lyme: libs believe it. And simple people perhaps.

I'm baffled why anyone would vote for Ocrapa. I'm baffled how anyone can defend his lies. His broken promises.

I wasn't a fan of Bush, but I have ZERO respect for this current waste we have in the white house.

Iamon lyme: I see it fine now

Iamon lyme: Other option is to upload it to your photo album and link that here.

Iamon lyme: I thought it was a praying mantiss

Iamon lyme: In this post.. Politics (Iamon lyme, 2012-08-13 08:32:24)

Iamon lyme: LOL.. that's the message on the top of the page for one of the pictures you posted. So, no one sees the picture you intended.

The Col: But it seems that his money being "off shore" is not illegal. Perhaps if the greedy federal government were out of people's pockets, and stopped with lib regulations on everything, people wouldn't need to do that with their money, and COULD keep more of it here.

He has done nothing wrong. He has done what he could do to maximize his success.. GEE how AWFUL.

Honestly, he isn't MY first choice, for sure. Not conservative enough for me. But 4 more years of this ... well, I can't say any of the words on this board that I usually use for this useless president... would destroy this country.

Heck, I'd even vote for you over Obama. Anything to get that jerk out.

Artful Dodger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9hZpJp7U3Y

(V): The same way certain people on the dole have to bow down to the libs?

But you said something that makes sense this time, it seems. Yes, the more conservative our government, the better everyone's retirement can be in the long run.

(V): I think the question has been asked enough times in a row. Please stop spamming the board with it. If someone chooses to answer it, they will. (and have)

(V): Why in the world should McDonald's be blamed for obesity?

How about PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY?

Pathetic how so many people can't take responsibility for their own bad habits. It just HAS to be SOMEONE else's fault.

Foolishness.

Iamon lyme: Next is : We will be told what we can and can't eat.

Artful Dodger: I was SHOCKED the first time I ever voted. I had my ID ready, and the lady said, "oh we can't ask for that". I was like.. WHAT??!! One of the most important things we do, and we don't have to prove who we are?

I would have to agree that parts of this discussion are FAR from the intentions of this board. I was hoping it was just an "aside" and would end on its own.

So, please. Let's get off of Brainking Politics. Though it got more attention than the fascinating Rupert Murdoch.

Artful Dodger:

And this question : ".. anyone saying waterboarding is ok here on this board willing to go through 360 drownings?"

I'm not a terrorist. I'm not worried. I say put him through 1000 more "drownings".

Artful Dodger: And the libs want to keep it increasing! It's votes in their pocket. It's like a sickness. Get as many people needing government, then they have to keep voting you in to keep getting that hand out. So disgusting.

(V): Not wanting government controlled health care does not mean not wanting certain things reformed.
No, I'm not expert and do not have the answers on how to reform them.

Vikings:

(V): Those many have the right to it too. It's not that complicated. Pretty easy to understand.

(V): And even more importantly, Americans have fought and died for all Americans to have the rights we have.

(V): It hasn't gone from anywhere

(V):

(V): Of course, you left off the word "Many" before the bad elements part. Pretty important part of that quote.

The number of incidents with OWS is not EVEN CLOSE to the number of incidents with Tea Party. Simple fact.