Artful Dodger: technically, this is a prayer AGAINST Obama.

Let's presume a member of the chinese intelligence would have informed the general public about undreamed details of the whole dimension of digital snoopery and hacking activities of the chinese intelligence. This whistleblower would have fled from china in search of asylum. How fast a private jet of the CIA would be underway, the man celebrated as a hero of freedom witnessing in front of congressman and woman?

Übergeek 바둑이: A post below may desapear.. Yes, this sentence has been left by itself by it's author.

Übergeek 바둑이: Ulterior motives. He is a saboteur of dialogue.

Jack: "The bigots on the right took Gingrich out of the house under guard."

Explain. This sentence is incomplete, believe me, I understand english better as my writing.

"Gingrich is a wing nut not a democrat they don't allow that caliber of scum in the party."

specify, it would be interesting to hear more about.

Why so flushed?

Gingrich is a wing nut not a democrat they don't allow that caliber of scum in the party."

Jack: specify


*Edit" Two posts gone

"The bigots on the right took Gingrich out of the house under guard. Gingrich is a wing nut not a democrat they don't allow that caliber of scum in the party."


Jack: I'm asking of you to provide a reliable source that backs up this idiot's claims.

I'll probably have horrible internet problems from march on.

How about turning this board into a humoristic, real-life satire virtually political cabaret? Just a proposal.

Jack: No ox or moke stop capitalism on its ride !!


http://www.stuttmann.de

Follow news from the dark side at the wef in davos .. :-)^џ

Übergeek 바둑이: What changes everything is that informations reach almost every corner of this world. The degree of exploitation explodes in regions where soils get destroyed, homes and home get taken and given lost for these people to go to the factory, estranged from their own countrylands. I mean, I know adresses of Nestlé, Syngenta, ABB and so on, USB or rich Egyptians btw. Our multis are classical xenophobes, "hostile to foreigners", literally. Maybe not demagogs, but hostile to foreigners. Absolutely.

And here a religious joke: When individuals like intriguers realize that their game will be lighted, they start to fear to get hanged one day. But this makes everything worse. They should face up to eternal hell instead, that could lead them to the right path.

You know, if governments would start to do useful things with money, people could realize how cheap money currently is, they seem to fear this.. As if Henry Fords words would be true, that if the people realize how the monetary system works, there would be revolutions of the worst and such. The contrary is true. We, the people, would in fact be very happy and even grateful.

At least generations die.

European Stability Mechanism under the lead of Germans, forward deployed for a year, just like that, with a snap on one's fingers. 500 billion Euro. Not as stimulus for starving villages and districts, but for finance metropoles to do business as usual in our much-vaunted waste economy, exploitation elsewhere for our consumption sedation. I'm proved (you can smile) in my assumptions to see dreadful earth destroyers in our top politicians.

gogul: Certain spaces of european power abuse start to slowly understand that they are completely unnecessary, that the world will run better without them and who start to be mentally ill about bad conscience being a bad bad buzzer. huh, still a lot to do.

Übergeek 바둑이: Video games have been proved to calm down, it's a reducer of aggressions, amok runners take their urge out of other things, even if some of them played these sort of games. Although this game you mention is certainly in anyway nothing for kids. It's the blunted affect militarists are looking for with these games, killing without emotions.

Übergeek 바둑이: the ois*fg business interests of the past two, three decades were ideologic, even if until the end of the nineties, the neoconservatism was transported as rational economical attitude (which was never seen so by the left). At least since 9/11 it became clear to a broad population that the economical thinking was a redistribution program, deeply ideologic and suppressive. Not because of 9/11, but because of what happened after that. At least since then it became clear that this god talking to G.W. Bush has nothing to do with the biblical Jesus at all. This god the american establishment was praying to, and still is, was the god also know under the name "Wall Street", a religious project of commercialisation of every aspect of life, in big parts under the guise of the biblical God - abused and misguided Americans, for a man who demonstrated about 2000 years ago that we give a damn on God, to console his true followers.

I'm not coincidently choosing a religious rhetoric. All nonbelievers out there with their heart at the right place should be thankful that people like me do study the matter this way. Power is magic of a sort common people can't grasp self-evidently. Our powerful man and woman "up there" are drunken by this magic, the economical thinking outgoing from anglo-saxon business schools and wall street not only ideological, but also a religious project. In their ivory towers they feel like greek gods on the mount olympus and this olympus sort of works and humanistic values are a afterwit, there are still of those who just laugh about us the people.

We have to implement morality in leadership and we can't do this with the current personnel at a rate of 90%, because it will be visible soon enough that those man and woman abused for years, telling lies, rearranged language and bought certain to shut up and destroyed others (like me but I didn't mind one, two, three, four, five times etc.), abused the system at their advantage since they climbed up these stairs to power, it's generations of generations of abuse over many, many centuries.

We want to tell these people on power to just move off their seats and positions, it must be an awful trap to be caught in the act of stealing public means to fill up private purses to be drowned in money (it must, it has to be an awful trap). Usury of 90% is the way to go for the upper class, you'll see these words proved by reality, 80% of the suffering worldwide a stupefying unnecessary.

"Funny commercial" --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9RBCr56i08

(V): A typical misunderstanding. They don't know how it really works. They, among others, need a lesson in capitalism. (hint --> employment protection).

gogul: I'm counting on proper conscience. It kills if you were a bad boy (or girl for that matter).

What's going on with Wulff in Germany is just a flashbang. In Europe, some may get a little angry about certain german politicians somewhere ... around the european central bank... Barroso and the kind are not justifiable anymore in their positions. What can they do? Wipe streets? Cleaning public toilets? Move to prison?

gogul: Payback is too big for our supercapitalists, they can't pay back their depts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GorqroigqM

Worth watching, and having deforestation, disastrous pollutions and such in mind. If you don't know what this is, you have a gap in education. If you think you are not part of what happens somewhere abroad, you are an ignorant.

(V): So it is, the republicans for sure are not part of the solution.

Let us replace the EU personnel.

Übergeek 바둑이: It must be kind of desperate, and the fight against ignorance can lead some people to anything, even the ugly. Neocreationism for instance, stubbornness due to an illusion related to the "birth", the right of the first birth. Nobody keeps his first new birth, but the illusion is kept alive with dark spots in the soul. These black spots, Hitchens was on about them, and I admire him for that. Neocreationists are missled, and it ruled the americas. Hitchens stood open to a lawsuit for the Babylon trip of Mr. Bush, his Irak war.

Bwild: If that's the case, a hammer can bring it to light.

Übergeek 바둑이: "Atheists see objective truths as just being without the need for a creator or giver. The sun IS. Science can describe how a sun is formed, how it functions, etc. Science cannot prove whether God made the sun or not, because science cannot prove or disprove the existence of God. Thus the atheists says: the SUN is and there is no need for any God to have created. Whether the atheist is right or wrong is a matter of faith."

I think God takes this with a shrug ;)

(V): probably an other expert of the internets. I'd rather thrust google news than bbc..

"There is a new paper on Science Express that examines the constraints on climate sensitivity from looking at the last glacial maximum (LGM), around 21,000 years ago [Schmittner et al (2011)] (SEA). The headline number (2.3ºC) is a little lower than IPCC’s “best estimate” of 3ºC global warming for a doubling of CO2, but within the likely range (2-4.5ºC) of the last IPCC report. However, there are reasons to think that the result may well be biased low, and stated with rather more confidence than is warranted given the limitations of the study."

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/11/ice-age-constraints-on-climate-sensitivity/#more-9939


-Since October we know that 2010 the worldwide co2-emissions soared as fast as never before, for 6 %.
-At the same time we heard about the surface of the arctic ice (smaller as ever).
-A new study shows on the basis of the heatwaves and forest fires in Russia 2010, that the global warming trend is influencing the weather system.
-The IPCC presented a survey warning of strong rains, droughts, sea level and more heavy storms on nov. 18.
-According to prognoses, most of all it's the south of Africa threatened by floods, water shortages and bad harvests.
-The efforts to climate protections are bigger in emerging countries as in our crashing countries (lol joke, sort of).
-The UN-Climate conference in Durban is not a ecological happening. Lots of governments send their responsible for foreign affairs and economic policy, not their environment secretaries.

The human contribution to climate still stands by my informations, but that's not even the point. Our governing class is still grinding us down to a nub.

Artful Dodger: An absolutely beautiful place, imagine the highlands forestet climate change, noo not true lol

It's to be raging to have no single line of reasonable news from hungary in the english language. Shame on you.

Together we can make Scotland better. http://www.snp.org/

Artful Dodger: well said.

lmao

(V): duh, to what extend?

Mars Science Laboratory Lifts Off for Red Planet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jEXoMpmfJcM

Artful Dodger: "We've seen these things before in the history of the world. Climate changes. Normal cycyle. Nothing new. Man made? That's where the junk science comes in."

I feel with you

Disastrous pollutions, we should agree on that, are man made. It appears that nothing on this world could mess us up, although, certain toys are not in trustable hands. Just like soups and Bernice. Who could stand the poison.

gogul: Well, actually I already do

Artful Dodger: You can say that global climate change is not affecting your region, if it really was the case. But it is elsewhere, and if we don't address these problems, we will be surprised about refugees. I know how populism works. They will let the mob bash these refugees. And I will bash the populists.

gogul: They are horribly failing in historical context.

This means of course that they are about to fail just now, these days. Intolerable.

Artful Dodger: Sinking islands are not "junk science". Melting water reservoirs are not junk science. Shifting seasons are not junk science to farmers. Spread of desert is not junk science.

The european union is scheduled to be a post-national formation. Thinkers of a better time where sure about the sense of this idea. The pressure on our momentary leaders is not enough. They are horribly failing in historical context. History will be that Merkel, Sarkozy, Cameron where not able to address the idea.

gogul: Honest would be to admit the problems in mostly poorer countries, climate change is causing. We will suffer the problems anyway and should face them honestly. For the sake of our .. hmmm .. soul, we should overcome national fence thinking. Get over your nationalism, the resulting populism is a sick stupidity, while we do have the means to address the problems globaly.

Global warming is a reality. Global climate change, the better words for global warming, is a indisputable fact. Right?

Übergeek 바둑이:"The general excuse is that this is what it takes to protect freedom and democracy. However, under the Patriot Act anybody suspected of terrorist activity can be detained. In essence the USA has turned itself into a quasi police state. People are free to consume, to say anything they want, to do anything they want, except do anything that leads to political change or a change in the Capitalist economic system. The function of the police state is to ensure that the rich stay rich and the working class stay working for the benefit of the rich. It is a form of police state socialism. The state has a monopoly of judiciary and military power. All that is missing is children ratting on their parents, and you will have full fascism.

In fairness, it is not just the USA. Almost every western country has become that way. "Big government" means programs that help the working class and the poor, but it will never mean a bloated police and military."

I think that's worth reading again. Morally, our elites are dead. Any doupts?

Artful Dodger: Had to be freed, I think this is obvious.

(V): So Britain is greater today as it was in the past?

Justaminute: "A fact that Britain is not as great as it once was? If you define greatness as the size of your empire then this is inevitable."