I think this is some sort of communication problem (packet loss?) resulting in
i) booted off the table (in this case)
ii) the 'clear table' command not being executed.
I'm pretty sure this round started for me with 5 cards on the table, almost certainly left over from the previous round. I don't know enough about this sort of programming to know whether it is possible to verify that each command has been carried out before continuing but that is what seems to be required.

Mike UK: Not sure if it is a site issue,browser issues, user cache issues, or even users ISP cache issue - but a quick suggestion if you happen to notice it happening again, try to refresh the browser to see if it will fix it.

I've had the same thing happen to me, although I can't remember the exact incident. The Community Cards stayed the same, then the turn card changed, and after that the river card stayed the same is how I think it went.

I checked it down... ;-)

Mike UK:I was at the table when czuch had his issue...I have yet to experience any problems, so I wondered if these flukes are individual and not over all

Bwild: My guess is not. I think it gets corrupted for one player for some unknown reason. It was preceded by me being booted off the table, apparently for disconnection. This is the second time I have had something like this. The first time I was using Firefox. This time I was using Chrome.

Mike UK:was this visible to the whole table?

oh yeah... I have been meaning to ask.... can we have an option to edit the list of smiley we use when playing poker?

has the option to "show" or "muck" been entered into the to do list?

Seems like there is still some sort of an issue with prior hands being shown, but they are not what cards you really have?

Someone mentioned that it might have to do with when someone leaves the table or joins it or something like that? But this time, it was the same three people at the table.

I showed that I had a k q, the same cards from my previous hand, and then it said I won the hand with a full house, jacks and 6s... the 3 jacks were on the board, as was a 6, but i didnt see a 6 in my hand

Just noticed that leaving the List of Poker tables page open burns up bandwidth at around 15MB/hr (more than actually playing).

JPS:You can keep people guessing but the issue is a good player can always beat the luck of a hand or two or three.LOL

im on a 1000 buy in pot limit table right now.....

Czuch: yes

Vikings: Thats what the screen shot does, right?

Czuch: "...i was calling 150 chips on a hand i didnt really have...."

I called more than 1000 !! with a flush I really didn't have... and lost to a pair !!
Thanks god it was on the last day before the reset.
lol

When having problems with the poker tables, Fencer needs to know what table you are on and the game #.

I just won a hand on a pair of aces and it said i had a straight.....i immediately told the others in the room and then left....it was the first time I played since the re-set of chips....

JPS: and in any rate, its still a bug that i was calling 150 chips on a hand i didnt really have....

JPS: So, then I was seeing cards from my last hand?

I know on some poker sites, the notation tells what cards I was dealt as well as all the other stuff too... that would help clear this up maybe..

Czuch: The same happened to me twice. . . but I think the problem is this:
if I'm playing poker and there's a move in any other game made by one of my opponents, the poker cards simply don't change from one hand to the next... I keep seeing the same hand, but it's not there anymore... I have two new cards but I can' see it until I refresh the connection.
I hope you can understand my english... sorry

AbigailII: I am guessing that fencer can look at all the hole cards to all the games even after the fact, and find that it was wrong?

Czuch: Considering the shot shows the hole cards of the next round, it's not much proof of your claim.

This is a shot after I lost a game where he won with a pair of threes, but I had two pairs of 4s and 2s, definite bug problem somewhere.....

bobwhoosta: I'm pretty sure that tables will be created as they are needed, right now there is no need for them

One thing about the Limit Tables, very soon now they will be unprofitable for players with higher chip stacks. Can we get a table with limits of 50/100, and stacks of 10000-20000?

Czuch: Yes, that's all well and good, but you're forgetting the turn and river, which will naturally be A, A.

Thank you, I'm here all week.

(09:51:06) Labbeda wins the pot with four sevens. The kicker card is nine.
(09:51:06) Labbeda wins 1030 chips (main pot).

I agree with Czuch...The poker tables really need a "Stand Up" feature. which leaves you as a spectator.

Sitting in a new seat? Easily done by making them post a big blind to sit.

Also...It would be REALLY nice (and make for faster play) if there were buttons to pre-select what you want to do:
Check
Check/Fold
Fold
Call Any Amount

any no limit takers ready to go right now?

bobwhoosta: I would probably , on a good hunch, either fold pre flop or raise and catch trips on the flop!

And if you could get me AA when Czuch has KK, that would be great.

I dont mean to keep harping here.... I think it is really important to be able to be dealt out of a few hands without having to leave a table.

Also, if we can get up and change seats without having to miss the next hand to do it would be nice too.

Bwild: he said as much the other day when i asked...

Fencer:well....I guess (since I dont seem to qualify an answer) that fellowship tables are in the works?

Fencer: ok, sounds good to me, thanks

coan.net: So you could win money in a fellowship game and take it with you to a public table? I guess, either way..... I agree it will be nice to know how you stand against other fellowship members and so forth

Czuch: Separated chips.

Czuch: I think we should use the same stack, but brings up another idea - keep stats for each fellowship for how much money won/lost in each fellowship.

Another random thought.... in fellowship poker, would it be best to use separate money from our public money stacks?

Separate systems for each fellowship?

Summertop: I know most places have a way to ignore anyone they want to in the chat, or to turn it off all together....

In real life poker, if you stand up or leave before your blind, and then sit back down, either in a different seat or back at the same one, you have an option to either post the blinds and be dealt in or to wait until the blinds hit you again, and then post them and be dealt in, you cant get out of paying blinds just by getting up from a table.

Same goes for new players joining a table, if they want, they can post blinds and get dealt in straight away, or they can just wait for the normal action to get to them.

Tournament play is a bit different.... you never really leave a table until you have no money left, so if you are there or not there, you post the blinds in turn, and you are always dealt cards, and you are check folded from there... so if it comes your play with no raises in front of you, you automatically check, and if there have been a raise, you are automatically folded.


(sorry, i was writing this when bobwhoosta was posting his)

One thing I would like to see are tables where the buy-in can be 100 times the blinds added together. It is the way they allow it in most No-Limit Hold 'em Cash games, and allows for more strategic play, as you can now sit back and wait for good chances to double up. 10-20 is outside the range by letting you have 1000 chips to start, while the 100-200 tables are going to be slugfests, as any contested pot will be almost an all-in!!!! (For instance, when the blinds are 100-200, and there are 3 callers, the pot is now 900, and you are on the button. You have A A. What can you bet so that most people will fold their hands, hopefully leaving you heads up against one player? At least 2000 chips! Then you are most likely all-in post-flop if you have a hand. Not very strategic, no room for good moves.)

-Zak

P.S.

Of course, if you have A A, who needs good moves with a hand like that???

The way to fix anyone who wants to sit out during S/B Blind, then sit back in, is to cause ANYONE who is sitting at the table to either post the blind once, or wait until the Big Blind comes up. That way they have to pay to play, no matter what. It's what they do in the larger, real money sites.

Summertop:I think a per person chat block would be great....as it is..if someone says something that I find bothersome..I just leave....got plenty of other things to do.
a group of moderators...different time zones...isnt such a bad thing though. fencer sleeps tooo much!! lol

No matter what you do, someone will find a way to try to cheat the system...

1. Stand up...simply means you become an "observer" for that table. Someone else may/might take your seat. and you might have to sit somewhere else to get back in the action. Maybe the table even fills up and you can't sit down.

2. Abusive attitude. With ANY site, yes even BrainKing, people can become victims of abusive. Usually verbal (foul language, taunting, etc.). Or even manipulating the rules so they never have to pay a blind or get some other advantage.

At some point, as the tables grow, I would hope the poker tables get a group of "Moderators", just like the other forums. Those encountering abusive players would need a way to "report" the abuse.

any news on if and when we may have these..also, any word on fellowship tables?

AbigailII:not only are blinds common...but a part of the rules. but I agree on the buy-in. normally its equal to the first bet amount. this prevents folks from sitting in 4 maybe 5 hands...then after not receiving a suitable pocket...just sit out when its their turn to post a blind, only to sit back in after the blinds have passed them.

coan.net: The typical way of avoiding people "sitting out" when it's their turn to be a blind is to require people to pay a big (or small) blind when joining a game in progress. Either by having them wait until they the big blind rotate to their seat, or by having them pay a big blind for the first hand they play after joining.

Alternatively, one could get rid of the blinds all together and require everyone to play an ante. But it's common for Texas Hold Em to have blinds instead of antes.

Bwild: .... except you don't get their money when you win! (Don't get me wrong - I agree that it is stupid to sit out just so you don't have to place an automatic bid before you see your cards) - but the point was brought up before in this Discussion Board - which is why i was bringing it back up, since being able to sit out a hand or two and still stay at the table would seem to fall right into those who play that way hands.