Hi, A win the lasts 2 games with 20 points and 19 points...I haved 1960...and now I only have 1979? why...its a bug ?

And about Angola Checkers?
We play with rocks and always that we have a queen, we jump and we moan equal to one rinoceronte!! this a good variant too. What you think Fencer?

Pawns are now able to posts again. Sorry a few ruin it for the masses.

Czech draughts is more 200 years old checkers variant. Rules is identicaly as english checkers with this diferent: King (in czech draughts Queen) has long movie, The move capturing the most pieces is not mandatory but in jumb has Queen priority before pieses and Captured pieces remain on the board until the move is completed and cannot jumb 2x cross one piece

I have removed all off topic posts. PauloGomes and eiaur have been banned from posting until further notice. Pawns posts will be approved for the time being. Now take it back to czech checkers discussions or take it elsewhere.

Even though it's not really anyone busness except for Pedro's on who he has on his enemies list, but it look like Paulo has changed his nick sometime in the past - which sometime in the past Pedro had this person on their enemy list.... which means he was on there for a reason - nothing probable has changed.

Maybe in the future.

For finish this discussion, there is any possibility to be created a new variant of Checkers? With Portuguese/Spanish rules?

The moderator will approve the posts, so legitamate pawns can still post via the moderator.
And the likes of Paulogomes/Eiaur (yes they are one person) will still be able to post as long as its czech checkers related

When I said its unfair,
I was on about Bad Bishops comment about Portuguese. I could see he is someone who has something against them from his first comment.

I think now that youve read all the posts since then...you will see that my hunch was right.
I would not say he is racist towards them, but I would say he is being prejudist.

There is no need to go against them as a whole like on this board, so would like to see most of it removed. So as not to hurt any of my Portuguese friends on here. (even though there are a couple of bad cookies in the bunch...but thats no diferent from all nationalities)

Could it now go back to Czech checkers board rather than a membership payments discussion and who can or cant afford it.


I bet ive shocked you now by being serious for a change ;oÞ

BB: I am not much happy about this idea but everything can be considered, of course.

Fencer, you can find them on the site I posted earlier as well... I think the main difference is that you must make allways the maximum captures as possible (you can't choose between capturing one or two pieces - must go for the two) and you can choose between a pawn and a queen to make the capture (provided they both have the possibility to capture the same maximum number of opponent's pieces).
Oh, and the board is turned (main diagonal from upper left to lower right).

What are the portugese/spanish rules exactly?

I've been playing Czech Checkers since I was a kid and the Queen had always precedence as to jumping the opponents pieces. If you have a possibility to jump with your Queen, you have to do so. Period. That's the rule. And that's how it's been played here for decades, at least. If you have problems with this rule, there's one simple solution for you: don't play this variant. Plus it is very sick to demand a draw and put your opponent on your enemies list just because he follows the rules. In case you want to play any game on this site, I recommend to read the rules first.

why not create a new game with portuguese/spanish rules? If you see, the portuguese Ferjo is the best player in almost any checkers variations and the portuguese fans.
There are only a few differences ... so, why not?

There is no bug in the rules. Czech Checkers is just a variant played in our country and the rules details had been consulted with top Czech Checkers players.

No bug. Just found a site with many checkers variations... In the Czech version, the queen capture precedence is also noted there...
It's just us portuguese that are used to a different type of checkers.

I saw that game and I also believe Paulogomes should win. I believe thats a bug in the rules..but isnt hard to correct it, I guess.

Then it is thus, the responsible one for the site limited to say that nothing will be moved. Where is the argument and where is the reasons so the rules are thus? Clearly ,nothing can be move at this moment, but would have to be opened a quarrel forum on possible changes. Thanks any way Fencer.

Nothing will be changed.

I would have prefered you had found it out when playing someone other than me though LOL I was relying on that to get an advantage :o( LOL

Just found out another thing. There used to be possible to reverse motion to make a capture (for instance, queen in F6 and opponent pawns in G5 and E3, the queen could capture them both in one move by jumping first to H6 and then go back to capture the other pawn).
I only knew this rule here at brainking and it allways caught me by surprise when it happened to me...
Very well, it's not possible anymore :) (I prefer it that way).

PauloGomes should win, he has a better game and that rule, in my opinion, is a bad rule.

I bet ocnibulva prefers it the way it is ;)

However, I also have some problems with this rule. The rules for the "portuguese checkers" state that a piece must capture as many opponent's pieces as possibleand of the strongest type as possible... but any piece can capture if there is more than one option, as long as the number captured is the same... And it looks like the "English checkers" are different as well... at least trusting on Stevie's opinion...

But then again I never played checkers outside of Portugal... just a question: is this really how checkers are played in Czech Republic or is it a bug introduced when the other one was corrected?

How many national variants are there for this game anyway? Is there a site that lists them all?

Fencer, if you procede to a statistical movement you will see that every one discord of this rule, so in fact that must be change.

Unfortunately, I would agree that you should win that, but with the present rules, you will be losing your queen in a couple of moves and they will gain a queen and you will most likely lose the game

Thats a five in line game ;o)

Please, all users have attencion to the game ID 20355 between PauloGomes Vs ocnibulva
I think that is a win for me, but the rules, wrong rules in fact, are: "If the player has more possibilities to capture opponent's pieces, he/she can select any of them.However, when a king or queen can make a jump, the player cannot select a pawn to jump with."
What you think Fencer?

Uh-oh :-)

Sorry BBW. It was posted to the parachute board. Thats the one game that you get the draw after about 4 moves and pretty much made everyone who played it quit. But now all the varients play a lot different and are much better.

Steve - I agree 100% - It's a GREAT rule change - I'm actually looking forward to playing some more games now. I'm just somewhat upset me that I did not know about the big rule change.

I wasn't complaining about the rule change - just that I guess I was in the dark about it for so long.... :-(

BUt it has made the game closer to real now anyways BBW.
The bug was a known bug by players of the checkers variants. It allowed too many cases of draws etc because of the ways that queens move.
So all thats been done, is that the game now plays nearer to properly. So go back to bed LMAO

Yea, posted that a bug was fixed, not that rules where changed.

When I read that, I just figured there was a bug somewhere - not that the rules where actually changed!

But I'm beter now. :-)

No it was also posted by Fencer on the server news.
1. September 2004, 03:45:31
Besides, lots of bugs was fixed (e.g. multiple jumps in Czech Checkers) and added several improvements.
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Well I never liked how the checker rules are setup with "see other game", and then their are other differences which confilict - so a lot of time to find out minor rules, you just have to play around with it.

what gets me is such an important rule change was just posted in here. ugh.

BBW: I encountered a similar surprise in One-way checkers. The rules say that in one-way ch., "the other rules are the same as for Czech checkers", while the Czech checkers rules say that "the other rules are the same as for normal checkers" ... so it must have been a change in the rules of Checkers, which I unfortunately do not play :-)

I'm going to have to read the board more, a new rule that changes how the game ends that was announced in here on Sept 1st - and I only read about it now!

I think I might have resigned games once the other player had thier piece in the main diagnal because I know it's a losing posisiton - and now I find out the rule had changed???? I could have forced them to jump out of the diagnal!!!

Well i guess it's beter to know now then later!

Maybe when a rule is changed for any game, it should be announced in system news - even it if only effects a few users.

Its better than the way it was, it ended in too many draws

Checkers? the Czech Checkers don´t exist. This game is a variation of Brazilian table with Spanish rules, and is known like Portuguese Damas or Portuguese Checkers. Don't make any sence refer to this game with the international rules of checkers.
Thanks for the opinion.

From Checkers rules:
"If the player has more possibilities to capture opponent's pieces, he/she can select any of them. However, when a king or queen (in variants) can make a jump, the player cannot select a pawn to jump with."

By the rules the we have to jump the most pieces, and isn´t importante if it is with the queen or not.
Is this moment we have to jump with the queen.

wtg fencer!

A few hours ago when new games was released.

You mean today as this instance? or you mean today as new games are start?
I wonder what happens to games already started with the "old" rules...
BTW thats a big improvement to the checkers variations games. Many thanks! Good job Fencer!

This is going to be changed today! You will be forced to make as many jumps as possible. In all checkers variants with long jumps.

A helpful piece of advice Nightstorm,thank you.

No there not part of it. Which is why no matter how many pieces the other side has if you have a queen in the main diagonal you can force a draw. If they place their piece in the diagonal all you have to do is jump your piece and go to the other corner. With forced jumps you would have to take all the pieces you could get and not be able to just stay in the main diagonal and get the draw. This is what the rules say about queens jumping.

Moreover, a queen does not have to land directly behind the captured piece, it can choose (when jumping) any other empty square in the line but does not have to jump over two or more pieces at once

I thought the "forced jumps" was already part of the rules?