coan.net: I second the request for game-by-game notation settings, but for a different reason. For most games I like to have the notation, simply because it doesn't bother me and is occasionally useful, so I might as well. But with Logik, I'd rather have it hidden, because it requires so many page loads to make each move. Having that extra sidebar there makes it take longer for the page to render, and usually makes the actual content jump around a bit until it finishes, so I can't make my next click until it's all done. Without the notation it's a lot smoother.

This maybe has been mentioned before, but if it has it's worth mentioning again: ON the tournaments page when you filter the tournaments by type, it would be nice if tournaments of that type which are running, full, or finished would not show up. It is annoying to have to click on each 'all games' tournament to see if the game type you want is still open.

AbigailII: If you are correct, then one could kill two birds with one stone and correct Abalone's defect, which is that it is impossible to break through the opponent's wall. This means that Abalone is a lot of fun at first, and as soon as one gets better it becomes awfully dull.

Long ago we experimented a bit with alternate rules, and the best we came up with was to change the start position by inserting two of each player's spheres in the middle of the opponent's position. The reason for it is that it seemed still impossible to break through when one sphere up, but possible when two spheres up. I am not sure of that though.

shame on the someplayers at here,they are going to loose their chess games with me but they just waste the time and it takes almost 5 months to move a piece , every day they click on my name in order to play later....lol

Rainbow Road: It has always been my understanding that a game doesn't have a copyright. Certainly, a name can be trademarked, and a description of the rules has a copyright. But you're free to make a game with the same mechanics. Just don't copy the rules verbatim and use a different name.

Abalone is a registeredgame... Only the company could say yes to letting the game here... Abalone is a very fun Game.... I play it alot...

what about hex games like Abalone or hexagon could it work on this site?

coan.net: yep, i agree

MadMonkey: I would still like to add my request to make the move notation a user choice option on which type of games you have the move notation on.

On most games, I would rather have it off - but how some games are setup, you need to have it on to get IMPORTANT information about the game (Boat games to know which boat you are attacking - Ice Age Chess to know when the next ice age is going to happen)

So if important game information is going to be only in the move notation - I would love to be able to choose which games it will show up on - and which games it will not.

Fencer is there anyway when looking at siging up for tourney games that a black dot is placed next people who areon a Blocked Users List?

MadMonkey: It's simple. Use the Castle style.

Fencer, can you do something about the move notation in Camelot games. Once you start making multiple jump the screen can get very wide lol

Fencer: WOW, Fencer on the ball today lol

Thanks very much

MadMonkey: Done.

Just a small thing Fencer, and i think(well hope lol) very easy to add

I know many of us that run Tournaments like to post the winners to boards.

Would it be possible that within a Tournament like THIS ONE of mine, that when a certain game type has finished, that the winner is posted beside that game. It would help keep track of who won which when searching results

It works fine when the Tournament is only one sort of game(AS HERE), it shows the winner once complete, but it would be very useful if it did it in multiple games as well

Nine Men Morris... And a 20x20 dots and boxes... These would make great additions to this great site...

This first day opponent: feiyi7 not only timed out without moving but even offered a draw!

My first day opponent did quite well this time, 21 moves on day one, time out on day two.
Gordon Shumway: thanks for the suggestion.

AbigailII: That was basically what i was asking in my original post on the subject

Also Fencer, could we have a page (same as in our profiles for finished games) for Fellowship results. I used to keep track of all the Madhouse ones, but now we have nearly reached 500 games would be nice to see a win / lose / draw breakdown for the Teams

Currently, when you go to someones profile, you see the number of wins, draws, losses and tournament wins. It would be nice to show the number of times a person has timed out.

ughaibu: As a temporary solution you might exclude unrated members from accepting your invitation, so your opponents are going to have played at least a couple of games to the end.

Could we get a feature that filters members of less than a certain period from seeing games in the waiting room? More than 10% of my games are taken by first day members, who almost all time out without moving.

rod03801: People don't get better over time necessarely. But whether they get better (or worse) isn't the point. Ratings are used to give an estimate of ones true strength. The argument to use recent activity is if a rating is based on recently played games it's likely to give a better estimate of ones true rating than if it's based on games played 5 years ago. Just as a rating based on many games is likely to give a better estimate than a rating based on a few number of games.

A rating system like BKR uses some measurement to determine how likely the rating reflects your true strength. The more likely (according to the measurement) the rating reflects your true strength, the lesser your rating changes after a result. The more likely your opponents rating reflects his true strength, the more your rating changes after a result. In BKR (but also with ELO), the only thing considered for this measurement is the number of games played. Other rating systems, like Glicko based systems, also consider recent activity. The more recent you played your games, the more likely your rating reflects your true strength, and the lesser your rating will change after a result.

Here's an example why recent activity matters. Suppose Bobby Fischer was still alive. Would you consider him stronger than Anand? Fischer played his last official games in 1972, giving him a rating of 2785 - a rating he would still have under BKR rules. On the most recent FIDE list, Anand has a rating of 2783. Personally, I'd consider the 2783 which is (partially) based on games played this year to be much more relevant than a 2785 rating based on games played way back.

AbigailII: Interesting. Why should recent activity matter? Do you mean because for many games, people get better at them as time goes on? To me, that would gradually start to show as time goes on. I imagine that's probably not it. Probably something I'm not thinking of. (Imagine that! )

MadMonkey: In the way BKR is calculated, the only factors that are relevant is the rating difference between players, and the number of games. If you have played 100 games, it doesn't matter whether you've played those 100 games all in the last month, or whether your last game was 5 years ago. It's just too bad there's no factor for recent activity.

But this is the way it is, and Fencer has said many times he has no intention to change the way BKR is calculated.

rod03801: Sorry, i agree with you totally with that. Needs to play more

I almost suggested once that no time out games should be allowed to be a part of ratings, but that would never work. I do think it should be discussed and looked into though. I do not mind losing games fairly, but when i think how many of mins are by time out, it makes me sick , even though i admit its my own fault (well the computers anyway lol)

MadMonkey: I wasn't saying he didn't have a point. I was just pointing out that with so few games played, his BKR isn't nearly as accurate as it will be after twice as many are played. Especially at the number he is at now. That's all.

rod03801: He does raise a point though rod which i have brought up a similar thing a while ago now

I actually asked, that i would like to know how many games that i had won / lost / drawn i would be on (and also my bkr) if all time out games were eliminated. Twice in the past now i have been with out internet connection for a time, and therefore lost many games by time out. Luckily enough it has not happened lately.

The point i am making is OK its my loss, and my bkr gets crucified on certain games (ones that i am pretty good at), BUT when i return and start playing again, most top players know who they can & can not beat, or give a close game to.

As an example, if my Lines of Action or Cheversi ratings went very low because of timed out games, and then i started playing again, and of course i would enter tournaments and take on the top players, many of which i would win, there bkr's would get crucified

I would like some way of this not happening, not just for myself, but anyone on either side of that coin. I think a happy medium should be reached

Übergeek 바둑이: Honestly, with so few games completed, the ratings/rankings aren't very accurate for you, regardless. The more games you play, the more accurate it will be. So, I really wouldn't look at as "dishonest". Through time, it will "straighten" itself out.

I see. I am playing several games in matches to several points. I think it is almost impossible to account for every case. In one game the player lost against me in the first game, then timed out with zero moves in the second. After his first loss he lost interest in playing. I find this happened mostly with Pawn accounts. They accept a game from the New Games list, then abandon the game. I am rated number 5 in Capablanca Random Chess. I have 20 wins and 7 losses. 10 of my 20 wins are by timeout, and 2 more will be added in the next few days. Without those timeout wins I would be ranked at least 5 places lower. I find that it is making my ranking look much better than it actually is. I don't mind looking smart, but what about honesty!

Übergeek 바둑이: Just to add to what Jason said, if the person times out in that period of time that a game can be deleted, it does not affect BKR either. So, while you can delete the game, as he says, you don't actually have to go through that effort. When they time out, you will see no changes in your ratings.

Übergeek 바둑이: you can according to this....
You can delete a started game until both players made two moves only. It means that after the player who has not started the game (black player) performs his/her second move, nobody can delete this game anymore. The main purpose of this feature is to allow players to get rid of a game where the opponent did not start to play at all without waiting for a timeout.
If your game can be deleted, i.e. it fulfills the previous conditions, a link "Delete game" will be added to the bottom of the game page, just nearby "Offer draw | Resign" links.
A deleted game is not counted for anything. Statistics of both players (number of won, drawn and lost games) will stay unchanged and the game will not be calculated for the players' BKR.

http://brainking.com/en/FAQ?ht=7

Very often people accept a game invitation and then they never move again after the first move. Then they lose the game because they run out of time. I don't like winning games like that and they just inflate my rating unnecessarily.
I wish there was some way to remove those games from my rating calculation. I know it is complicated to program something like that, but I think it would be nice.

Vikings: true but what if you normally want your favourites but not always? with css you can hide reshow at other times. I just went down each part and made a script to allow you to remove what ever you wanted. what you do with it is up to you.

mctrivia: you can remove any board from your favorite list, thus the term favorite.
you can also turn off the tip of the day

Vikings: unless things have changed you can only turn off the whole side bar. It is far better to have it server side but I just make programs to help people fill requests in the temporary.

mctrivia: Excellent! Thank you!

mctrivia: What is the purpose of removing the favorite boards or tips, when you can turn them off?

Ceiter check out http://mctrivia.com/bkcssmaker/

I recently bought my first paid membership, and I've joined a bunch of fellowships. I'm a happy camper overall, but there's one thing that irks me: the list of my fellowships always there in my sidebar. I'd love to have the option to remove them completely (or maybe have a show/hide link in the sidebar itself). Many of the fellowships have animated smilies in the names, which I find annoying and distracting (albeit not enough to leave the fellowships :) )

I think you could gain a lot by adding customization to the sidebar similar to the way we can customize the main page.

MrWCF: I like this game. I home no license is required to implement it.

Fencer, just a little mention (as you mentioned new games) to Dominoes as it has not been brought up in a while

I think it would be VERY popular here and would work well.

Start with just a normal set (28 tiles) of 6 x 6, the maybe build a 9 x 9 & 12 x 12 sets

This of course could be set up as either 2 player or multi-player

I would like to see Camelot offered on BrainKing. Camelot is one of the finest abstract strategy board games ever invented.

Camelot is a tactically complex, yet easily learned and quickly played mixture of American Checkers (British Draughts) and Halma (Chinese Checkers). Camelot is played by two players on a board of 160 squares. Each player begins the game with 14 pieces: four Knights and ten Men. The pieces utilize three different move types: Plain Move (one square, any direction), Canter (leap over friendly pieces), and Jump (leap over and capture enemy pieces). Knights may combine Canters and Jumps in a single move. The game is won either by moving any two pieces into the opponent's Castle, or by capturing all of the opponent’s pieces.

Camelot's forerunner, Chivalry, was released by George Parker in 1887. In 1930, a few changes to the board and piece setup resulted in a name change to Camelot. Camelot's greatest popularity was in the 1930s, 40s, and 50s. Camelot was discontinued in 1968, then reissued as Inside Moves in 1985, and finally discontinued again in 1986.

You can learn much more at http://www.worldcamelotfederation.com/

I hope it will be available in real-time only ... I cannot imagine playing cards in turn-based system ...
Andy.

Yes, it is time for this to stop now. Back to what the board is for, please.

Vikings: that is a good point.

All: I think we have gotten a little off topic. For myself I will not post more on this topic.

mctrivia: If you will notice neither you nor anyone else in this discussion has been banned or threatened of it. The banning was because of an ongoing flagrant abuse of guideline #3 of the discussion board user agreement