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8. май 2004, 22:49:27
Artful Dodger 
Относно: Walter go here for more info
Auto Pass discussion

in a nutshell the reasons given are as follows:

1. The inability to chat between moves
2. The board can change substantially in one move (confusing to new players) 3. It "likey would" cause many many many complains / comments regarding "My opponent is cheating

8. май 2004, 23:10:26
grenv 
Относно: Re: Walter go here for more info
Ridiculous, how can someone cheat on a game site. If you don't understand the rules try another game. Chatting will still happen if you use my system of playing all the moves at once within your time limit. There will be fewer "turns" per game but you can always start another game if you want to keep chatting.

9. май 2004, 10:57:19
Walter Montego 
Относно: Re: Walter go here for more info, and more Questions for Fencer
I went there AD. It looks like a lot of this has been discussed before.
The two things you list as arguments against an auto-pass feature (I'm not sure if you agree or disagree with them, you're just pointing them out for me. Thank you). Chatting between moves and confusion over the board position. If those are the main reasons for not having an auto-pass feature, I say those are very weak reasons. A few people have said eloquently enough why those aren't problems at all. I agree with them.

1) Chatting, especially on this site, isn't a problem at all. All previous chat messages are displayed, and one can read them back and put the current message in context.
Let's say I send a blot to the bar and have all of the homebase's points covered. With auto-pass and the way I play the next few moves, I'm able to keep my opponent from moving for six turns. Then I leave a point open and my opponent now gets a turn. Who missed a chat chance? I don't see it. To my opponent, it would appear that I'd made my regular move and now he can send a chat message if so inclined. I suppose I could send a message for each of the six turns, but why would I talk to myself? If either of us really needed to chat to the other, I for one, wouldn't use a game's messaging for it anyway. I'd send a message through the message box. "grenv" made a valid point about the turn itself that I agree with. My time to make my move should continue to run until my opponent has a chance to move. That way I can't take over the game and purposely delay it for as long as I can.

2) The abrupt change of position resulting from turns being passed. A very minor problem in a game of Backgammon. I haven't played Reversi on this site, but I did play it on It's Your Turn. Seems to me that site has the auto-pass feature as the only way to play. (Opposite of this site, where it is not a way to play. Yes, I'd like to have the option as the player on both sites). Anyway, I remember my opponent being able to keep me from moving. Seems to happen near the end of the game and it's not always to your disadvantage when it happens. It'd come back to my turn and all my pieces had been flipped over. Wow, that's a drag, even if I saw it coming when I made my previous move. I still don't see a problem. Believe me, a couple times when it'd happened, I'd hit the "prev" button and see just how it came down. What confusion are we talking about? If the position is that bad, this helped get the game over and we could start a new one, or hey, I didn't have to play it any more and I could try my luck against a new opponent.

So it gets down to Fencer being against it. It obviously can be programmed since IYT has it. If that's the way it is Fencer, then that's the way it is. Some costumer service, is all I can say sarcasticly. What gives, bud? You seem so accomodating in almost all other things on this site. Considering that you don't play much Backgammon, why even take a position on it and just keep the overwhelming majority of players happy and make it a feature? As we say in America, "It's my ball, and I'm going home".
To quote Fencer. "No auto-pass. Accept it." and "There is a difference between listening and making a decision.". Yes, there is. But good decisions are usually made by listening, even if you do stick to your guns and go it your own way. I think it's a bad decision not to have the auto-pass available, but that's all I have is my oppinion. As this is a minor aggrevation in the few games when it comes up, I'll just deal with it at the time and am not going to say much if anything more on the subject.
I would like to say thank you all for hearing me out on this and had I known how much was said earlier on the subject, I might not have even made my original post concerning it.

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