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4. август 2004, 20:02:31
BuilderQ 
Относно: It must be like those EarthSea novels
where knowing a person's true name is dangerous.

4. август 2004, 18:56:17
danoschek 
Относно: well don't let us take quousque tandem as example
Променен от danoschek (4. август 2004, 18:57:47)
and the world will be better, for sure ...
too many dead hamsters in spinning wheels, yano ~*~

4. август 2004, 18:54:02
Stevie 
LMAO

4. август 2004, 18:51:05
bwildman 
perhaps you prefer to be called "Richard Cranium" ? LOL:)

4. август 2004, 18:23:17
Grim Reaper 
well, take Danoschek for example. His name is Johan Buttox and you don't see any of us calling him by his Anglo equiavlent name, Jack Ass.

4. август 2004, 18:21:53
redsales 
Относно: previously
i referred to you as GI until you relocated to Vanuatu...

4. август 2004, 18:19:42
Grim Reaper 
Относно: For example...
...the very first page of this DB:


Felix (1486) Personal to GothicChessPro 21. March 2003, 19:51:22
Dear Mr. Edward Trice,

4. август 2004, 18:19:35
coan.net 
I remember it starting around the time you switched to ...Inventor, from whatever else it was. But that has been awhile, so you would know better than I do.

4. август 2004, 18:17:54
Grim Reaper 
it has been going on long before my name change.

4. август 2004, 18:12:23
coan.net 
Well if a user changes their username often, it is sometimes easier to use a common name like thier last name.

4. август 2004, 18:08:25
Grim Reaper 
its funny how some players are referred to by the BrainKing name and others by their last name. Hmmmm.

4. август 2004, 18:03:11
redsales 
Относно: yes, ugh and trice are rating boons...
but i meant large sample size against different players, not just playing against the same player...that shows a wider skill base. I know of some false accounts of BK that were created to get to the top precisely by that method of playing against the top guys in their first games.

4. август 2004, 17:56:37
BuilderQ 
If I had played all my games of loop and gothic against ughaibu and Trice respectively I expect my winning percentages would be lower, without my skill being reduced.

As it happens, my games of 3 checks chess against ughaibu seem to have given me a high rating despite my losing both.

4. август 2004, 17:49:28
redsales 
Builder, thanks, I didn't notice that! No wonder. If you don't see how win %ages reveal skill, you need look no further than loop and gothic, seeing the top two players. A win % from a large sample size such as ughaibu and Ed Trice tell me much more than prov ratings based on 4-6 games...sure, the provs may be as good or better, but they haven't really proven it. Statistically it's much easier to get a high rating on BK from a small amount of games.

4. август 2004, 17:19:40
Caissus 
Относно: Re:
Bwildman, you can download a testversion (30 days) on www.playchess.com and look there.
It is very interesting if you have never seen such fast games before.!

4. август 2004, 16:57:21
BuilderQ 
Относно: Re: ratings suck
Redsales: If you're refering to your games in the "For the honest,and friendly,not cheating. (Atomic Chess)" tournament, observe its description: "Unrated games (no BKR will be affected by this tournament): yes"

Let's not confuse unrated games with the real problems with the rating system. :) And I don't see how simple win percentages reveal much about a player's skill.

4. август 2004, 16:50:38
rabbitoid 
Относно: now THAT's a good idea!
after a couple of wins I'm sure the game evens itself out :)

4. август 2004, 16:46:22
Grim Reaper 
we play 2 minute games at Doylestown for beers :) if you do good you can get a free 6-pack in no time :)

4. август 2004, 16:43:59
danoschek 
Относно: click - ratsch - clickclack ratsch
Променен от danoschek (4. август 2004, 16:47:16)
you said it - training the blitz-castling is recommended then. ~*~

4. август 2004, 16:40:35
bwildman 
so the total game ..from start to finish...is 5 to 1 minutes long?

4. август 2004, 16:33:29
danoschek 
Относно: whose time falls first loses
Променен от danoschek (4. август 2004, 16:34:21)
and the opponent has to notice himself
all offered help from 3rd sides is a cheat as always.
we used to value it as draw if both times are run out when it's noticed. ~*~

4. август 2004, 16:29:39
bwildman 
what happens if theres no checkmate?

4. август 2004, 16:26:49
danoschek 
Относно: tiebreaker blitz
Променен от danoschek (4. август 2004, 16:27:10)
is first two games in 5 mins, then two 4 mins per game,
and so on down to one min per game - already the sound is frightening :P ~*~

4. август 2004, 16:26:45
bwildman 
no way...are you serious?? 1 minute per game? surely you mean per move?

4. август 2004, 16:18:19
Caissus 
Относно: Re:
But he plays mostly 1 minute per game.You must have fast fingers and good mouse and strong nerves.:)
I have considered to ask him for a simultan here in "Gothic"...

4. август 2004, 16:15:58
bwildman 
per game,huh? it would be tough at 2 minutes per move.

4. август 2004, 16:12:40
Grim Reaper 
yes 2 minutes per game

4. август 2004, 16:10:56
Caissus 
Относно: Re:
On "playchess.com" I have seen grandmaster Roland Schmaltz alias "Hawkeye", who lives in my neighbourhood with a "bullet"-rating of more than 3000!Do you know "bullet"?

4. август 2004, 16:06:34
ughaibu 
I think you'll find that 2700 is the present ceiling for ratings.

4. август 2004, 16:03:42
Grim Reaper 
Променен от Grim Reaper (4. август 2004, 16:04:21)
well, if my chess rating goes up 60 more points, I will be ineligible for tournaments since they usually contain the constraint less than or = 2700 when the rating range is specified.

4. август 2004, 10:34:36
Stevie 
But surely the rating system here is not the rating system everywhere else, its the BK rating system, and is to reflect the players on BK against each other, not against other systems

4. август 2004, 07:15:22
ScarletRose 
Относно: Re: scarlet
Okay Chancellor.. Thanks.. I will put that in my notes.. grabbing my sticky notes now..

Gawd!! what would I do without these things.. hehe..

4. август 2004, 06:12:15
redsales 
Относно: scarlet
yon steed is the chancellor

4. август 2004, 06:11:11
redsales 
Относно: ratings suck
ethori is a fake account. Also, the ratings here are just wrong but I can accept it. In atomic I beat a 1750 player and lost to a 1988 player when I was rated 1905. Result? ZERO change..in either game. Maybe I'll be 1905 forever. I think the records show the strength best. Ughaibu has lost thrice in over 250 games of tablut, that's unheard of...and Trice hasn't lost. That says a lot more than the ratings.

4. август 2004, 06:10:44
ScarletRose 
Относно: Whatever happened to Fun!!
You all take the ratings so seriously..

Heck.. I play to play.. it calms me down.. and I get to meet some very interesting peeps..

BTW ~ What is the name of that new little horsie dude with the cute toosh?

4. август 2004, 05:13:28
BuilderQ 
Pocket-Monkey, another game site, mentions the following: "Elo ratings are not absolute, they are relative, and they're only applicable within a body of players." So I do not expect USCF and Bk ratings to match.

However, I agree there are other problems with the ratings, like draws not counting for enough, and a player's first few games being over-emphasized.

4. август 2004, 04:56:00
Thad 
Относно: ratings system
Who ever said a 2600 BK rating here is equivalent to a 2600 chess rating? It's not and is not meant to be.

4. август 2004, 04:38:27
Grim Reaper 
I still think the rating system on here is not correct. I got a draw with Chess Carpenter and there was no change in rating points. That never happens.

And look at Descenter. He was near 2100 when I was about 2200, and he made a losing move on move 5 of our game. There is no 2100 player that I know of that would play so badly, so this system has ratings that are at least 300 points too high, maybe even more.

Another thing is that all of the "early" players were thrown into a pit together. We were all rated 1300, and it took forever just to claw our way to 1600. Now someobody comes on board and beats an overrated 1900 player and they are instantly at 2300.

Does not seem to reflect the way the "real rating" system works.

My overrated chess rating is the perfect example. For 12 years I never broke 2300 in United States Chess Federation play after having made master at age 19. On here, I play for one week, and 2641 sits next to my name.

I really don't think there is much weight to the system, as it is implemented on here.

4. август 2004, 04:32:23
BuilderQ 
Ethori was also #1 once, briefly.

4. август 2004, 04:27:22
Grim Reaper 
let's see what his rating is after another 100 games. My chess rating is 2641, do you think that is accurate?

4. август 2004, 04:07:49
LongJohn 
Относно: Top Gothic Player
I see that "Nellaf" is the #1 ranked Gothic Chess player and not Ed.
That surprised me.

4. август 2004, 04:05:16
BuilderQ 
Относно: 18
It would have been more impressive if he had said that before the game was over.

4. август 2004, 04:00:40
redsales 
Относно: 18
wow, called it spot on.. nice..

4. август 2004, 00:33:44
harley 
I didn't! We only started playing an hour? or so ago - and he got me in 18 moves! Shame on me!
But on the bright side, my rating didn't go down! Ha ha!

4. август 2004, 00:31:27
Thad 
Относно: 18 moves
I'll bet I can last that long against anyone. ;-)

4. август 2004, 00:19:24
Stevie 
Hey Trice, why you change your name? AND remove your posts? i guess didnt want to be seen to have refused a game

4. август 2004, 00:15:49
Grim Reaper 
My bet is 18 moves.

3. август 2004, 23:53:55
harley 
I'm hardly a challenge! ROFL! His rating is more than double mine! I think he almost has me anyway...

3. август 2004, 23:46:29
Stevie 
But he wont accept a challenge harley

3. август 2004, 22:43:03
harley 
How many moves do you think I can survive against Ed?! I'm taking bets now! LOL! (No money bets!)

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