BrainKing - Дискусии (Chess variants (8x8))

This is a win in 3 for white I think. I won't say how though :)

18. август 2004, 09:25:44

we call it Siamese Chess with 2 players

19. август 2004, 02:47:50

WakeUpPeople

Относно: some bug

I was browsing some boards and wanted to look at that game, then wanted to look at the opening and I can see only empty board when trying to go backward to plies 33 and prior (whites 17th move). May be it has something to do with the way Fencer stores game data in the database, may be he just allocated too small space for atomic chess games expecting them to be fast. (when I wrote this last ply index was 107)

19. август 2004, 02:49:07

WakeUpPeople

heh, wrong idea, the moves obviously are in database, just game browser somehow cant cope with that, I go get some sleep better :)

19. август 2004, 03:12:17

Actually i think the data does dissappear from the database. Not sure why, but this happens for virtually every game.

19. август 2004, 04:34:05

PowerPygmie

Относно: Huh

And all this time, I thought Chess was a Bughouse variation...

19. август 2004, 04:41:45

ughaibu

It's quite different from bughouse as the pieces remain constant unless there are promotions.

30. август 2004, 14:17:38

No castling is allowed in this game. I will fix the rules ASAP.

19. септември 2004, 20:13:40

[Del]

Относно: Problem

I have got a small problem.
White: Ke1; Qd2
Black: Kc3
Black to move.
So what do you think? Is it Patt?

19. септември 2004, 21:35:00

Относно: Re: Problem

Since the black king can get close to the white king, and just chase him around from then on (preventing the queen from blowing him up because the white king would go in the process)... I think it's a draw.

19. септември 2004, 21:37:28

In this particular position white wins since black cannot move next to the white king on this turn.
e.g.
... Kc4
Qd3 Kc5 etc...

19. септември 2004, 23:10:37

Относно: Sorry

... somehow, on the my diagram I had placed the queen at d1 and not d2 as BFG stated. I must agree with grenv then. Sorry for the confusion.

19. септември 2004, 23:21:22

[Del]

Относно: addition to Problem

Well, I think a different way. If the black king would beat the white queen, both kings would be removed. So for me it's a special constelation, in which the King could beat a figur. Im not sure if the king isn't allowed to beat a figur, because he would be also removed, or he isn't able to beat.

Are there any official rules of atomic?

19. септември 2004, 23:53:58

official rules? who knows if there are any. What would make them official?

I didn't understand what beating a figur is, but the king cannot capture anything on this site, therefore white wins.

You could create a rule that says if both kings are exploded it's a draw, but that isn't the case here.

20. септември 2004, 00:04:56

[Del]

Относно: Re:

Well, both Kings would explode if the black King would capture (sorry, I didn't remember) the white Queen

20. септември 2004, 00:11:01

As I said, on this site that is impossible, KxQ would not be allowed.

The only rule that seems different at other sites is stalemate, which is impossible here. Anyway this wouldn't come under that category.

21. септември 2004, 10:45:18

stalemate is possible, though unlikely. Eg white king on b2, Black king on a2, queen on b1, another queen somewhere. White to move, if white moves to a1 and black moves the other queen to b2, white is stalemated. Black would have to be pretty dense to do that though!

21. септември 2004, 14:58:48

There is no stalemate in Atomic Chess on this site. In your example white would be forced to move into check.

21. септември 2004, 18:21:26

but white can't physically move..! how would that work then? auto pass? :)

21. септември 2004, 18:44:02

oops, sorry. You're right I didn't look carefully enough at your numbers. This should be stalemate, but who knows how it would work.

23. септември 2004, 02:43:11

wanna try in an unrated game? :)

26. септември 2004, 14:14:19

WhisperzQ

White deserves a draw for stupidity on the part of black LOL

26. септември 2004, 23:19:39

Променен от coan.net (27. септември 2004, 00:33:53)

Quick question - if I DO NOT put the Maharajah piece into check, and they (Maharajah piece) DOES NOT have any valid moves - is it a win for me, or a draw?

*Edited to add "Maharajah piece" next to they

27. септември 2004, 00:25:51

when you mean they: the black or the white?
If the white can't move I think it's stalemate. So a draw.
If the black can't move... can this even happen?

27. септември 2004, 00:37:23

Sorry, thought it was clear. Edited previous message to add "(Maharajah piece)" next to they so hopefully it would be more clear.

27. септември 2004, 02:49:54

Относно: Capture question

A pawn can go two spaces diagonally on it's first move.

Can it capture a piece doing this?

For example if white had a piece on E5, could black take a pawn from G7 to capture the piece on E5?

27. септември 2004, 04:31:09

ArnieTxx

Относно: Re: Capture question

Pawns in Berolina Chess only capture vertically.
A 2-square diagonal move by one of them the first
time it moves cannot be a capture.

27. септември 2004, 06:29:52

Променен от Kevin (27. септември 2004, 06:30:07)

sure - black can't move if only two pieces are on the board:

black King on A1
white Majarajah on B3

black to move.

27. септември 2004, 06:31:12

It says in the rules: "...the game is finished if the Maharajah or the king is in a checkmate, one player is in a stalemate, etc."

27. септември 2004, 12:29:34

Chessmaster1000

Относно: Re:

Променен от Chessmaster1000 (27. септември 2004, 12:31:03)

<>It says in the rules: "...the game is finished if the Maharajah or the king is in a checkmate, >one player is in a stalemate, etc."

OK the game is finished but how??? With what result? Your copied text is incomplete and incapable of explaining the compete rules. You should have added:

The game is finished WITH THE SAME RESULT AS IN CHESS if the Maharajah or the king is in a checkmate, one player is in a stalemate, etc.

27. септември 2004, 19:02:29

Pafl

It is actually a good strategy for white to try and get "into" the black's position, hoping for a stalemate :-)

27. септември 2004, 21:07:23

"black King on A1
white Majarajah on B3

black to move."

This isn't stalemate... White just checkmated black by placing the maharajah at that position. So it's not black's turn: a win as already been accomplished.

28. септември 2004, 05:58:29

Whoops - I meant maharajah on B4 :-)

1. октомври 2004, 02:04:59

BuilderQ

Относно: Amazon is H?

Why, in the notation, is an amazon represented by a letter "H"?

1. октомври 2004, 10:40:53

Eeeew, it should be something else. A, maybe?

1. октомври 2004, 17:35:56

Bobes

Относно: Tournament final

I play final match in the tournament and it's 3 wins match. I started with black ... so this is, teoretically, loss for me. Is there way how to solve this problem?

1. октомври 2004, 17:54:08

Win or draw as black? :-)

2. октомври 2004, 07:18:06

CardinalFlight

How about Z for amazon?

2. октомври 2004, 07:24:53

A is Archbishop in Gothic Chess. I think there should be some distinction between them, considering they move differently...

3. октомври 2004, 10:23:20

i like Z too

3. октомври 2004, 17:18:25

Do you know what would be a more fun "Maharajah" chess game?

Cylinder Maharajah Chess :-)

4. октомври 2004, 12:13:12

Is it better now?

5. октомври 2004, 04:34:46

Yes :-)

5. октомври 2004, 12:22:01

rabbitoid

Относно: loop chess tournament

Any interrest in loop chess? a tournament will start next monday, provided enough people show up... click here

8. октомври 2004, 00:56:10

BuilderQ

Maybe Berolina Pawns should not look the same as regular pawns?

8. октомври 2004, 08:06:36

Hrqls

Относно: pawn promotion

when a pawn reaches the other side of the board .. is it allowed to promote it to a pawn again ?

is this allowed with the last pawn on the board ?
would you lose if you promote your last pawn to a pawn ? (in theory there might be a short period during the promotion in which you have no pawn left ?)

8. октомври 2004, 09:52:11

No.

8. октомври 2004, 09:53:43

Why not?

8. октомври 2004, 10:52:44

Hrqls

ok thanks :)

8. октомври 2004, 20:23:34

BuilderQ