happy hermit: HoFer?

Chaos:

Hall of Fame -er :)

Chaos: I was thinking it was an anagram of his name, rather than a abbreviation! Tony G = tgcon?

Nothingness: Thank you, though it was really a Chaos idea.
I think some method should be applied in assigning the mentors, otherwise Eric will go for those at the top of the Dark Chess ratings, all of whom have not played espionage (here)! :)

edit = spelling correction!

SL-Mark:

I think some of the Dark Chess players will do well here. :)

Chaos:

It's Tony Gardner . . . Mark had it.

Chaos:

You can make it, I believe, an open tournament with a rating cap. 1500 seems a reasonable cap and I would guess you would get more participants that way.

I will look for a player right away.

happy hermit: That was my first thought, but  a rating below1500 or unrated still means they could have a very high rating in a different variant. They may just never have played fast espionage.

Chaos: That is true. I have just been playing in a fast espionage team tournament, invited by the captain to join his team. As I had no fast espionage rating at the time, I was paired with all the other low rated players. 12/12 easy wins :)

But I do agree with Eric as well, it would be much easier and less work if the entry was open. Is it possible to eject people just before the tournament start if they have not met the criteria?

As to when, well firstly need to find someone, then teach them so that they will at least beat your and Eric's student End January, beginning February?

Chaos: Yes you can remove players. If they keep re signing up after you have taken them out, you can also "ban" them from joining it again. (BEFORE it has started, that is)

Chaos: All good stuff.
Suggest 3rd prize as a bishop or knight membership rather than brains.

Announcement should also be posted on Tournament board.

Who is paying for the prizes? Would you like a contribution?

How about listing the mentors and the students as they become know?

If you've found a beginner interested in the game send a message to me so I can invite them to the tournament.

I am interested in learning to play.I have games going in it .but it is trail & error that i am doing I guess i will need a tutor to teach me how to play it also

I want to learn to play this game

For anyone interested in some pointers, simply send me an invite to any variant. During the game I'll include hints and tips along with my moves.

we have lots asking but no one joining...

Nothingness: a little patience :) People have to get an invitation to enter the tournament, and there are also pawns who have to finish another tournament first. In the mean time do place espionage games in the wsiting room to get new players who might be interested!

right now i'm playing a non rated game with a player as a teaching tool. i am unable to get the BK rating thing to work when i post a game. I try to set parameters but it never works and anyone joins. even if i set the rating to no one over 1500 can challenge me, it don't work.

I placed 3 games of fast espionage for players between 100 and 1500 but it says anyone can enter for some reason still.

Nothingness: any player means it's not a specific player. Only unrated players/players below 1500 will be able to see your games though. I can't see your games them in the waiting room.

Taking the old Sab vs 2 debate a step further, I currently find myself in three games where I gave up a 3 for a Sab (Spy). All three were in extenuating circumstances (in each case I had already captured, or thought I had captured, three other spies) but I can't remember ever swapping a 3 for a Sab in a competitive game before.

happy hermit: Hmmm, with you're playing style you can probably get away with it. Most of us don't. But if it's the last spy and I still have a lot of unknown pieces I think I might be tempted even to to sacrifice a 4 or 5 :) But ofcourse I like to bluff and do not like spies at all :)

Chaos: I don't recommend trading a 3 for a Sab early in a game (while I do recommend trading a 2 for a Recon) as the opponent then has a lot of options in pursuing an attack. I just found it odd that I was playing three games simultaneously, against good players, in which I exchanged a 3 for a Sab so I thought I would mention it. :)

happy hermit: the sab is not the spy the recon is the spy... the original discussion was spy vs 2

Nothingness: You are correct. I meant Recon and I fear I have been using the wrong word in several other places as well. :)

happy hermit: actually here the names of the pieces are totally different then they are on IYT. i dont even know what there called here.

Congratulations to Chaos for the win in the "Sabotage Leauge - Small Fast Espionage - #"

SL-Bosse: Thanks :) I'm very happy with it! :) :) I still think there should be another round if players have the same amount of points though. I think the S-B thing is odd. If the reasoning is that you're stronger if you win against opponents with a lot of points it should also makes you weaker if you lose against an opponent with less points.

Chaos: Maybe we should ask Fencer for a possiblity in the set up of tournaments for choosing that option.

Chaos: Not only stronger opponents, but mostly also you direct competitor(s) - in case of players on first rank.

Hey Bosse, still planning to create the small fast tournament?

Chaos: Yes, I will see if I can put up some "rules" today or tomorrow.

I think most players want to play with 2 days time for a move rule. I hope very much for 3 or 4 days for a move. It would be sadly if some players don´t register for the next tournament because they have time problems with 48 hours for a move. With that rule some "timed out" wins would be normal too.
Everybody can try to play fast, but we don´t need to make us self time problems. With 48 hours for a move I have time problems, because I don´t have everyday a internet option.
In the open fast tournament a favorite like Lightning Bolt lose his games on time. What a pity.
greetings

Styleone: You have a point there. though I prefer 2 days, I could live with 3.

Chaos:

Why not go with the alternate time control. Say 7 days + 2 days per move bonus time with a 15 day cap? That lets players 'bank' some time if they know they might be away from their computer in the future without necessarily doubling the length of the game.

happy hermit: Sounds to me like a game could last quite long that way. Is the limit the limit for the total game or for the bonustime? I never got that right.

Chaos: A player could take a long time (up to 15 days) on a particular move, but would have to maintain an average move time of around 2 days (not counting weekends).

happy hermit:
This sounds like a good idea.
But how can you control this feature in BK?

dAGGER: I have never set-up a tournament, but when you set-up a new game (for the waiting room or to send an invite) you get a screen to 'Select this game parameters'. You can select the time control there. One option is time per move, the other has three options: game, bonus, limit. These correspond, respectively, to the initial time allowed for a game per player, the bonus time awarded to a player after making a move and the maximum amount of time a player can have to make the next move. It's a built in feature and, in my opinion, the biggest advantage of this site compared to IYT.

Just an observation. does anyone else think that playing 5 games at the same time is a bit much for a beginners tourney? This may be a bit much for any newbie. I thought that we were going to do a single elimination or a 3 person section. We don't want to discourage anyone so early.

Nothingness:
Didn't we all start double round robins on IYT? :)

I think it's better to get in a few games and get a feel for a wider range of what you are up against than to get one game in.

happy hermit: Yes i agree with you here. But 5 games is still alot but i guess i can live with it.