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29. 十月 2007, 01:44:24
TarantinoFan 
题目: Re:
ruby2shoes: so does this put us in the "certain users" category with the inference that we are unintelligent???

29. 十月 2007, 01:39:37
ruby2 
题目: Re:
TarantinoFan: and so say all of us - brilliantly put!

29. 十月 2007, 01:23:55
TarantinoFan 
Isn't this great. He who has the power, posts a blog to let us know what is going on and maybe try to make his paying customers feel a little better about what is being done with their money but no-one can access that explanation because it has gone down too! I know it's there because I can see a tantalizing little bit of it at the top of my main page but I can't access it to see if it really will calm my worries about whether this site is going to be stable and usable for the future. Lately this site really has been like

I'm getting a headache!!!

29. 十月 2007, 01:17:47
TarantinoFan 
题目: Re:
redfrog: My thoughts exactly!

29. 十月 2007, 00:46:34
MadMonkey 
题目: Re:
redfrog: , well hopefully, Google should be ok most the time, thats why i picked it really

29. 十月 2007, 00:35:49
MadMonkey 
Yours is there, i just replied to it lol
The BrainRook and .info sites are still down, well they were 5 mins ago
After you join, you have to wait to post, that way it will only be BrainKing members there, only take couple of ticks though

29. 十月 2007, 00:33:41
Bernice 
题目: Re:
MadMonkey: I ahave joined and posted twice but cant see where my posts have gone.......still only your 2 post are able to be seen, but there appears to be about 4 members....hasnt anybody else posted?

29. 十月 2007, 00:16:01
MadMonkey 
题目: Re:
Czuch: hmmmm maybe possible, as the time out process detects activity (or not) i believe.

Well, its there if people want to use it, and hopefully will keep this board clear a bit lol

29. 十月 2007, 00:11:22
Czuch 
题目: Re:
MadMonkey: I wonder... would it be difficult for Fencer to have us automatically redirected to that addy when this site takes too long to respond?

29. 十月 2007, 00:07:55
MadMonkey 
题目: Re:
Bernice: Well, with Fencers permission i have set a forum up on Google

At least it may help people find out if it is a site or a local problem.

Everyone is welcome to join the BrainKing Discussion Forum

Then if you can not access the site at some point, just head there and hopefully you will be able to find out what is going on lol

29. 十月 2007, 00:01:53
Bernice 
题目: Re:
Czuch: it is the easiest thing in the world to set up an independant chat room...well it used to be....I had one on my "FREE" geocities site...I have just checked and I STILL have a chat room on my site....and it works....hasnt been used since 2001.

It wouldnt be too hard for someone to set one up specifically for the use of BK users now would it,......

28. 十月 2007, 21:29:29
Czuch 
Okay kids, we all know that Andrersp is one of the people being referred to, he is upset about the auto pass deal that Fencer made and he will harp on Fencer for it, and Fencer will play the game too by making veiled digs....

now that is out, can we all move on now?

28. 十月 2007, 21:14:30
Fencer 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Andersp: Of course. They prefer to play games instead of wasting their (and my) time with attempts to start a useless argument on a public board which is supposed to provide meaningful information.

28. 十月 2007, 20:43:13
Andersp 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Fencer: I think most people at BK know what the site owner prefers

28. 十月 2007, 20:40:08
Fencer 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Andersp: The site owner always prefers to say what is the best for the community, not for any particular user. And he really does not care about "that's brave" opinions.

28. 十月 2007, 20:28:30
Andersp 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Andersp修改(28. 十月 2007, 20:35:36)
Fencer: so the site owner prefers to say A ("certain users" not Mad Monkey) and not B (the names)...thats brave

28. 十月 2007, 20:25:39
Fencer 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Andersp: No, because it would start an off-topic thread with a significant risk of an unfriendly atmosphere and that's what nobody wants here.

28. 十月 2007, 20:21:11
Andersp 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Fencer: So, if we ask you who those "certain users' (not Mad Monkey) are, would you answer that question too?

28. 十月 2007, 20:16:27
Fencer 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Andersp: It would be pointless because it's me who is answering questions. I don't ask any.

28. 十月 2007, 20:15:10
Andersp 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Fencer: If you ask them by their names instead "certain users" (not Mad Monkey) they might give you an answer

28. 十月 2007, 20:12:23
Fencer 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Andersp: Most likely they think that sending annoying complaints can be helpful. My opinion is different.

28. 十月 2007, 20:05:47
Andersp 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Fencer: I still think that "certain users" (not Mad Monkey)  are sending annoying complaints when they want/need an answer.

28. 十月 2007, 19:05:34
MadMonkey 
题目: Re: Graphs
Fencer: Thats one of your favorite words, is it not ergo

Did you know that was an old board game. Its quite a good game actually, i have it in my cupboard.
In fact, see if i can find it on the web


Found it HERE

Its like a cross between Five in Line & Hasami Shogi

28. 十月 2007, 18:55:12
Fencer 
题目: Re: Graphs
rod03801: Yes, it's a small bug because graphs are generated by an instant user action, ergo they must be displayed internally.

28. 十月 2007, 18:42:44
MadMonkey 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Fencer: I think it would be great, and immensely helpful to those who are not up with Computers & connection problems

If we had a separate place to go that people could remember to look at if they could not access brainking itself

Best have a chat to coan.net, mctrivia or someone else who has there own place, if they would be happy about it

28. 十月 2007, 18:39:07
rod03801 
题目: Graphs
The only images not working for me right now, are the graphs. Fencer, you are probably aware of this, but I thought it couldn't hurt to mention, just in case you aren't.

28. 十月 2007, 18:33:04
Fencer 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
MadMonkey: Sure, if someone creates a discussion board dedicated to BrainKing elsewhere, I can make an official link to it and place it here and to the BrainKing.info site as well.

28. 十月 2007, 18:32:11
Fencer 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Andersp: I talk when I have time to talk. It has nothing to do with a frequency of complaints.

28. 十月 2007, 18:31:40
Fencer 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Czuch: I have written a new blog entry today, which suggests some possible solutions. And yes, contacting your ISP is a good too.

28. 十月 2007, 16:43:40
MadMonkey 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Fencer: True, i know i read them all as well

As you are having a question day
Is it possible to have a brainking Discussion board based somewhere else (maybe mctrivias or coan.net site)
In other words, if someone can not access brainking we could goto a board there and just ask if it is a all round problem, or something closer to home.
That is the most irritating, the not knowing
I had to be up for work 5.00 the other morning, so i came on before bed to catch up on those games that may time out.

As for others the site was inaccessible, but how long could or should i wait for

Maybe coan.net or Rose or someone could have an access to turn on the suspended timeouts, until you can get here the next day, but if there is no site access, do not know how

Just an idea

28. 十月 2007, 16:40:23
Andersp 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Fencer: Maybe those "certain users" think that sending annoying complaints is the only way to make you talk?

28. 十月 2007, 16:38:43
Czuch 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Fencer: Well what can we do then? Can we contact our local ISPs and complain to them? Somebody somewhere must have an answer?

28. 十月 2007, 16:33:02
Fencer 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
MadMonkey: Perpetual complaints posted by certain users (not you) are annoying as well. We must live with many annoying things and I am sure that intelligent people cope with it.

28. 十月 2007, 16:30:32
Fencer 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Czuch: I never said that BrainKing was blameless. But there are problems which cannot be solved by us because it is not technically possible.

28. 十月 2007, 16:22:57
MadMonkey 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Czuch: I just typed that into my Notepad, yours is worded better though lol

True, i do not get how people from every continent, can all have a site problem with the same site at the same time, yet it is nothing to do with the site

Something weird and VERY annoying i know that

28. 十月 2007, 16:16:43
Czuch 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Fencer: Well, if you are paying them for a service, you certainly have a right, and a duty to complain when their service isnt up to standards!

I personally dont understand, and I am sure I am not the only one, the technicalities of what we are talking about.

But it seems logical that if it isnt something being done wrong by brainking, and it is a problem with local ISPs or other local companies, then how can it be that we all have problems at the same time, when we are all on different ISPs and the like?

Are we talking semantics here?

For example, if brainking keeps changing something and the local companies have a hard time keeping up with these changes, then yes, it is not technically a brainking fault, it is a local companies problem, but you cannot really say that Brainking is blameess, can you?

28. 十月 2007, 15:58:08
Fencer 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Czuch: I am experiencing a permanent bad performance of PayPal or eBay and I just accept it as a fact, being a direct consequence of the web structure. And I don't complain anywhere about it.

28. 十月 2007, 15:44:22
Czuch 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Jason: It has to be very bad luck for sure, that out of the thousands of web sites, it is Brainking which gets the unlucky poor performance by all of our local companies

28. 十月 2007, 15:16:01
Fencer 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Jason: I am glad to see you smiling when accepting the truth.

28. 十月 2007, 14:42:37
Jason 
题目: Re: That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
Fencer:

28. 十月 2007, 11:15:20
MadMonkey 
题目: Re:
Fencer: oh lol
Well i have 17 players signed up ready for when you do

28. 十月 2007, 11:12:17
Fencer 
题目: Re:
MadMonkey: Nothing like that has been implemented yet. Most likely it's just a buggy side effect of some other improvement.

28. 十月 2007, 11:09:01
MadMonkey 
Hello world
Can any other Big Bosses see a Random Team on there Team lists in Fellowships now
I have one, but it just appeared, i did not have to set it as a Team like normal.
Now i have had a couple of people ask me where to find it.
All i can say, is that it appeared after i set up a Random Tournament for the madhouse

Do you know Fencer ?

28. 十月 2007, 09:39:10
ScrambledEggs 
题目: Re: Fencer
Fencer:
ah okay thanks

28. 十月 2007, 09:34:10
Fencer 
题目: Re: Fencer
"Snoopy": I don't think it should be called "so much" because, as my stats page says, the site was down for 3-4 hours, which is not a tragedy, compared to a recent Skype's 4 days continuous downtime, regarding the fact that BrainKing is maintained by two persons, while Skype is owned by eBay, a really big company. Well, to answer your question, the new BrainKing rack contains 4 machines (+ a switch) and it's not an easy job to configure and finetune such a pool of servers, especially when BrainKing is not the only service which runs there. It is necessary to survive a couple of downtimes, which will finally produce a better, safer and more robust system.

28. 十月 2007, 09:24:15
ScrambledEggs 
题目: Fencer
why was there so much down-time yesterday

28. 十月 2007, 09:07:01
Fencer 
题目: Re: Questions?
Jason: If you mean the situation when your browser says that it doesn't know the brainking.com domain, then yes. That's a problem of local DNS resolving and cannot be affected by us.
However, there is still a chance to try any other domain (brainking.cz, brainking.de, brainking.es etc.) and switch to your language. In some cases, it can work.

28. 十月 2007, 08:24:03
Jason 
题目: Re: Questions?
Fencer: so for people who dont want to try and work out what you just said , you said it isnt BK that hasnt any problems but it is our ISP providers ............

28. 十月 2007, 08:19:02
Fencer 
题目: Questions?
Actually, I have some free time today, so if someone wants to ask a question (which would not be off-topic at this board), feel free to do it. Of course, nobody guarantees that a satisfactory answer will be provided.

28. 十月 2007, 08:17:12
Fencer 
题目: Re: More bad news!
coan.net: Yes, that's true. ISPs are obliged to keep their DNS lists updated and the only thing we can do for that is to broadcast the up to date information and "ask them" to accept it. There is a RFC describing this problematics and all serious ISPs should follow it. If not, I hate to say it again but it's really not our problem if some ISPs don't accept the general rules of the web.
Actually, I can improve BrainKing's detection system to switch to IP-encoded image paths when someone is accessing the site using IP address instead of domain name.
Generally said, it is an important performance improvement to separate images to another server and it's what we want to keep. I have recently implemented a smart detection system to BrainKing and the site recognizes when the image server is down, then it switches to internally handled images, until the image server becomes alive again. It is to ensure that BrainKing will always show images, no matter if the image server is running or not. However, it cannot handle DNS problems of users, of course.

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