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pedestrian: Agree. It is not really serious just a way of dealing with some frustration that I have almost 20% of my games with one of the top turtles.
pedestrian: Non turtles with 1500+ have the freedom to play inside and outside the sanctuary if they want. It is just admirable that than can handle that amount without beeing turtles.
norrsken: I'm not convinced that such a limit is really needed... this way it'll appeal to the wannabe turtles as well. Btw., I know people with 1500+ games that are not turtles, so it's difficult to set a relevant limit.
Another idea is to create a "Turtle Sanctuary". The sanctuary consists of a lot of tournaments with long matches like 33p in Backgammon. To qualify for these tournaments you have to be involved in at least 1500 games. In the sanctuary the turtles can sit and play against each others for some ten, twenty years.
I think a "Turtle Rating" could be invented and assigned to tournaments. It could be the estimated number of years the tournament will last considered the slowest participants average response times.
beach: I will consider following your advice which I thing is wise. I can understand that some like unlimited amount of games but the turtle I am speaking of has today 3363 games going on. It is hard to play so many daily with some enjoyment.
norrsken: I very briefly considered playing in the same 21pt tournament you're in. Then I did a few calculations and realized that if two turtles play each other under those conditions, it could easily take 50 years. Apart from everything that's been said (most of which I agree with) it doesn't make sense that one can create a tournament that can last 50 years.
norrsken: I feel with you. I have started to review the participant list of such tourneys before I join. Many names I know by heart, as I play 50 moves against them ever day; but if there are unknowns, I check their record. Just click on their name, and see - how many running games - how many games that are threatening to time out soon - how much vacation left - # of moves made yesterday - check any of their games that is on move 30 and see how long it is running. together that makes a good enough picture, and even though there are exceptions, rather be save than sorry...
I don't get why some people find it interesting to have 3000 games running and not being able to keep up with it. You would think they learn it after a while, but it seems they don't. Just like Homer Simpson - bang! Aouw! bang! Aouw! bang! Aouw! bang! Aouw! bang! Aouw! bang! Aouw! ...
beach: After 5 years at the same 21p round I don't feel very polite. Unfortunately I don't speak Italian, and even if I did I doubt that what I had to say would be a lot of help.
norrsken: Welcome to the turtle victim club I think 10 years is highly optimistic beach: a professional turtle won't usually time out. He'll just play his moves at the last possible second.
norrsken: you have to be careful with those 21p move games, I play alot of games and find there are lots of people that take along time (and within the time limit) to make there moves which they are entitled, only benefit is that by mid march they start to time out in the games.. You are better off sticking max to the 5 game matches and if you like to play fast stick to games that are 3 days or less, There are many people here who play large quantities of games and they play fast and they do not time out. Many of us with the higher paid memberships are here because we like the unlimited amount of games and we play all our games daily
I am involved in a backgammon tournament with 21 p matches. After 8 weeks one of the matches has reached 7 completed moves. With more than 20 moves per game and roughly 20 games per match the tournament will last for maybe 10 years with the response times one of the participants use. He is involved in more than 3000 games. I think there should be a limit so you can't have so many games going on. Even if you are on the highest membership level. I am 64 and maybe I will have to make "The final resignation" before this match is over.
thisbeme: Sat/Sun is calculated according to the server's time zone, which is eastern europe. So the BK weekend is over at Sun 6 pm EST, or in PT even at Sun 3 pm. It starts already early on the other hand, though.
coan.net: Oh yes... It seems great to me (and I think you also use that motiv) different type of games. It would be increased with the aleatory factor! :) So:
Gabriel Almeida: I can try to get some new team tournaments set up this weekend - any suggestions on games? I usually try to mix it up with popular are not-popular games, but always open to suggestions.
pattypoo: I've just logged in your account, opened some games, visited discussions, viewed a couple of other pages. No problems at all. Perhaps it is a WebTV issue?
I am unable to get in to any fellowships today. I get a white blank pages and have to either go out of the site or back click. Is anyone else having the same problem?
furbster: I like the idea allowing Pawn members playing ponds, so then there are more players playing. As the current rules state that Pawn members always use the last known move this should be fixed.