I didn't even KNOW there was such a thing. Do some players on here use them? Is that why it is so difficult to win a game? Or is it that I am too 'thick' :-)

I’ve got a question about „Othello“ programs... Are they really so strong as they are called? Do they don’t have a weakness?
I would say I was a experienced player few years ago (but perhaps not so good as most payers here at brainking :) ), but I mostly played against programs in private.
In chess the programs have big problems with positional play and game strategies like in the opening called King’s Gambit. They always say that black has an advantage, but it is not so easy to say.
Can’t it be so in “Othello“ too?

I can’t say that cheating (using programs) is okay or not. But it should be a fair not using these programs. But you can’t control it that everyone isn’t cheating. So a prohibition doesn’t make sense.

I would be happy about every answer.

PS: I’m sorry for my bad English…

thanks

6x6 has been solved. With optimal play player 2 is guaranteed a 19-17 win with parallel opening position and 20-16 with diagonal opening. More info at: http://www.feinst.demon.co.uk/Othello/6x6sol.html

I guess the bigger ones will not be solved ever.

are any of the reversi variants on here solved ?

i can understand 6x6 being solved .. but not sure

Hrqls: Most sites give the option to go both ways... Gives it more options to work with than play 100 games the same way...

*nod* it was also explained to me in the reversi-ep fellowship :)

thanks :)

sorry for moving a bit slower now .. i have a lot to think about in reversi ;)

Hrqls:

Before the game got the name "Othello" it was allowed; also, I think another rule was added with the change of name (about sharing the discs). So, this we play must be another variant.

in my reversi rules it says you have to start diagonally
XO OX
OX XO

but on here you can also start horizontally or vertically

XX OO XO OX
OO XX XO OX

is that allowed ?

The World Othello Championships are nearly upon us. So why not play Fantasy Othello - full details can be found here

I still need 2 players for this tourny in SCRL fellowship, we have 6 players in the team, but 2 of them cant play :o(

Polygonal Alien killers are looking for 2 strong 8x8 reversi players to join the team for the upcoming 8x8 team tourney.. Any one interested please contact Ripley at PAK

I think , in 8x8, there is more advantage for white in a non diagnal start.... the common courtesy , to make it a more fair game, is to use diagnal start

Usually fixed diagonal starting position is used so the parellel starting might be confusing to seasoned reversi veterans :) Other than that its really not an issue. At least not in 8x8 nor in 10x10.

So what is better to start with - your pieces right next to each other, or diagnal starting position? Is there an advantage/disadvantage to either of these?

I'm normally not a big Reversi player, but with the 10x10 team tournament starting, and the 6x6 comming soon.....

Rounding sounds the most logical.

Thanks all.

lol @ stevie

WE need 3 more players to complete the 6x6 reversi team anuy interesed??? the fellowship its reversi-esp....

If it was rounded, I would say same as Rod, more games = more established, should be number 1 :o)

I need 1 more player to join my 10x10 team for the tourny, any takers?

I feel privaledged that I beat you Kevjon, its a shame it was on GT and not here though :o(

Yes, I don't believe rounded ratings are stored - so the one that's listed as higher would likely be the higher one, even though they round to the same whole number.

I'm pretty sure the rating is carried out to the highest fraction, ie. 2167.4

I would guess it would be the one with MORE games.. That would make it even more established than someone with less games...
just a guess, though..
:-)

i would put in first place to the player with less games played, but i don't know what think Fencer, he is the programmer

If 2 people have the same #1 rating, what is the deciding factor that determines who's #1 and who's #2?

you're getting closer and closer though! and i consider you a strong player.

who me? I dont think I am. (if you mean me Kev) I cant beat you yet!!!

and i thought u said u weren't a strong player!

well right now its just two of us so we may not even get in to the tourney. Looks like all reversi 10x10 players are on teams!

Thats because that fellowship only wants the best and to win ;o)

I got snapped up pretty quick Stevie. I dont think I had the message up more then a few minutes and Ripley snagged me as team captain. Look forward to playing ya tho!

You can join the SCRL one if you like

Any team lookin for a strong 10x10 player for the reversi team tourney let me know. Currently I am not on any 10x10 team

LOLI wont win any of themm either

LOL.. You've got 3 going against me right now.. I'll go move on them.. I've been in the process of trying to catch up on some of my older tournaments that I'm holding up.. :-(

all the more reason for more of us to play you then LOL

i have enough right now! Besides, I'm on a losing streak.. :-(

Any one want a tourny?

It doesnt make a diference to me, but for now, to get it up and running and iron out the bugs, easier this way, fewer players

Steve...why cant pawns get into the ladder web site and play too? hy must the be required to be in the fellowship? It doesn't seem to me like that should really make a difference.

whoa a downward spiral on 10x10 but you will pick it back up.. im managing a slim second on 10x10 but flailing big time on 8x8 in ladders

Thanks, but take a look at the 10x10 ladder 3 losses and big red arrow LMAO

wtg again!

Its says I am on a winning streak, half the other ladders have me with a red down one LOL you can guess that easily

wtg Steve, whats the green arrowy lookin thing mean? not seen one o them yet

Here you are guys, thi8s is what the Reversi ladder looks like, unfortunately its only open to thosae who join the ladder fellowship. So knights and rooks. BK Reversi ladder

Better luck next time Stevie :)

until Kitti brought me back down to earth with a bump LOL

......Ive picked myself back up off the floor at 6x6 and back to 1938 now, all I have to do now is break the 2000 barrier again :o)

invites on their way :o)

Hey Steve... mabe I could play one with you, while you are down, If I win I will be happy to give ya some advice ;)