Well, the player in question is a bit stubborn, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees the advantage in evaluating past moves with AI-aid.

I don't know what to think of using a 'passive' board to look at your moves... In other games (hex/twixt/go) it's accepted. But the lookahead is what's so hard with reversi, and using a viewer for you lookahead makes it a alot easier (and gives a huge advantage in the endgame). I'm not sure where I stand in this, but I would definately prefer a player who doesn't use a passive board.

Sounds like alot of fun to me! I believe Richards PBeM-server already has something like that.

I don't think you understand what I mean, Kevin. Ofcourse, playing against a program for fun isn't cheating. The program uses its own algoritm, and is not using any external source (as you would expect from anyone/thing you play a game with!).

The point that I'm trying to make is that looking at a certain position with computer AI actually gives you a greater understanding of that position. If you use that advantage in an ongoing game, I consider that as unfair. Fact is that understanding of a position in, let's say, move 24 is still usefull at move 26, cause many aspects of that certain position at 24 are still there at move 26 (like parity areas, swindles, etc.).

No, they can't change previous moves, but in a game, the same patterns often keep on returning, and analysing previous moves can give an advantage. So if you miss something at move 22 and you find that out at move 24, it certainly helps you understand that current position better. Maybe it's not as bad as I picture it, but I'm really *beep* off by this.

I'de rather don't receive compliments in this rude form.

Thanks for your opinions!

I've been accused of using Zebra and now I'm having a difference with that player. I'de like to know your opinions.

The point is that she used zebra to check on me. Now, can this be considered as using AI aid in a game? Ofcourse, only previous played moves have been evaluated by zebra. But it's not unlikely that previous moves/patterns still are there on the board! That's actually very likely. I think analysing previous moves in an ongoing game certainly gives an advantage. So, the question is: when a player analyses previous positions with zebra, can that be considered as a form of cheating? Opinions, please.

The first time I played blaickner must have been at least 6 or 7 years ago. Cheaters don't last that long. I'm convinced your wrong here, Arnie.