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pass all the laws you want..just a bigger black market will result.. same for drugs, alcohol, gambling , prostitution.. etc... doubt very much gun violence will drop much. better education and parenting is the answer. of course years of damage will take years to reverse
Snoopy:I NOMINATE YOU The best post of the year. we are all human, all countries have or had their flaws. some day... an end to nationalism.. and then I can return from the south pole.... wait... all of my posts were # 1, but yours wins 2nd
You can have the strictest No Gun laws in the world or in history. That just creates an excellent black market. of course assuming its not an absolute police state, where these no gun or no anything laws are
Snoopy: Now that you've stereotyped Americans saying they sue for every little thing, I'm going to notify my attorney and you will be served shortly. I don't want to... but someone has to pay for that
Artful Dodger: "So that puts everything into question." And not just about global warming, but almost everything that "scientific studies" report.Global warming might be real, and air pollution and destruction of rain forests and dumping pollutants in the water is obviously bad, but these jackasses have done real harm. Harm to all the legitimate causes. The end cause doesn't justify the means. Reminds me of Nixon and his boys
Ferris Bueller: well then explain the benefits and advantages of alternatives, don't worry about being branded, if a form of either socialism or communism is better or acceptable, I'm willing to listen... however, I am kinda biased towards the Ayn Rand type of thinking, because first hand i have seen people practice "WORK , NO WORK... SAME PAY"
题目: Re: Hardly the direct fault of the US no matter how you try to spin it.
(V): You're not a former protege of Kim Philby are you?Seriously you are right, but I don't believe there was a whole of people trying to escape to the Warsaw Pact, or scale the Berlin Wall to get into East Berlin or boat people trying to get in to Cuba. In fact the vast , huge, majority were and are trying to do the opposite. Of course maybe these masses are the "stupid majority"
Übergeek 바둑이: what ever dude, that's not my debate, as a Brazilian friend said to me.."i was on the outside looking in,, trying to take care of my family'... and i would do as i had to also.. He was a street urchin who fought a hard deal.. he worked for Textron Lycoming.. I met him at Fidae '92
Joe Wilson actually called him a liar about the fact that no illegal immigrants would get free health care, but one wonders if the status of legal vs illegal will be changed. If a huge lot of illegals get declared "legal", then the president can't be a liar
Übergeek 바둑이:> Something is very wrong when a man can remain in office for 50 years and into his ripe old age.... Actually something is very wrong when one is a KLEAGLE ( is there such a thing as former or past?)and get into office, let alone have the audacity to run for it
Übergeek 바둑이: I agree,, That outburst was uncalled for, no one in the federal or state or local government should try to insult,diminish or humiliate the President in a public forum like Joe Wilson did. Tip O'Neil would never have done that
Übergeek 바둑이:What, is he 4th in line to be president?... see the thing is.. some stains can't be erased or " I'm sorry 'd" away,, Ted Kennedy is another .. Kennedy should have been a convicted felon , Like PA congressman T Druce, who went to jail and had his career ruined for vehicular homicide and not allowed to hold public office,just like Byrd.. what rankles is on both sides to point fingers at one..like Joe Wilson, yet toady up with another slime ball like Byrd....Ahhh but I stray... sorry!!!
(V): No doubt, my point was that the strategy of hoping That Hitler would attack the USSR Everyone knew first is speculation,the Germans wanted to recoup land taken from them by France in the treaty of Versailles. But remember, Stalin was also an evil man
Just maybe when Molotov signed that deal with Ribbentrop, that the Soviets were trying to appease Hitler in to attacking the west first,, which he did, that deal lasted almost 2years.Maybe Stalin was hoping to share even more spoils with Hitler,After all Stalin snapped up the Baltic countries. But also lets add this yet another Hitler/Stalin pact, signed a few months AFTER the west declared war on Germany. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_Commercial_Agreement_(1940)
Übergeek 바둑이: Hitler invaded Poland splitting it with the USSR,The Allies responded by declaring war on Germany. Then with little action by the Allies, Hitler then invaded France by going around the Maginot line and into the lowlands, defeating the French (except for Vichy) driving out the British . THEN came the battle of Britain with Hitler hoping to invade England. when he failed... THEN AFTER ALL THAT... he foolishly invaded the USSR. That sequence doesn't sound like appeasement to me.It seems you have a different view of Western intentions Oh I also forgot the invasion of Norway and Denmark which came before the invasion of France.. Hitler really conquered all of the west except for England before turning to the USSR.. So if they were hoping Hitler would go after the USSR first,,, it didn't work out too well. And don't forget the Soviets attempt to invade Finland before all that
Übergeek 바둑이: yes,, believe you me , certain moneymakers(george soros) would sell and buy from invading aliens bent on destroying the earth,, but lend lease started early, the Americans were not fence sitting... and maybe English and especially the French should not have insisted on harsh Treaty of Versailles provisions.. by the way how much money do you think building the Maginot line cost?? gee... why did they build it??? sarcasm here
Artful Dodger:of course the Soviets had no problem with Hitler when it came to making deals to split Poland though, and of course silly Finland didn't want to stay !! poor communists! no one can be trusted no wonder they forcibly replaced free Poland and Czech governments after the war
Übergeek 바둑이:I see no mention of those evil Americans actually helping the Soviets http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease note the paragraph titled "Significance"
Artful Dodger: I mean all he has to do is make a few " feelgood" speeches and he's a lock! by the way,, I like when the USA acts rogue for the most part.
gogul: Everything in moderation, never lock step to one side or the other , i like to say,, but Van Jones is not needed as he smeared himself too many times.Not a good man he is.
Hilary's plan had really no cost containment, but the Dem's had control of all 3 houses then , so they must not of liked it,, but they did pass nafta.. and plenty has been taught about European influence on the world,, especially UK colonialism, the Napoleonic wars, the wars of unification and maybe that treaty of Versailles that maybe helped create Hitler,, but don/t forget the early Balkan wars before that and later on in the 90's, or maybe the war of 1875 with the fall of Paris so maybe Europe won't get the USA it wants... but that's the way it is sometimes
oh of course they do, and i agree with what you say, there should be a referendum for this and other issues,,, and I most definitely agree that the US has far too long poked their nose in other countries business, so again no offence
The USa is far from perfect, but we find our own way, sometimes badly or not,, a lot have hoped for our demise since at least Stalin or maybe Khrushchev,, but , we'll go our way, even if we stumble from time to time
题目: Re: Republican Website Dedicated to healthcare reform?
Übergeek 바둑이: But dude, no offense, but aren't you Canadian? Why are you and others trying to steer USA to what you think is good and proper? not that you aren't entitled to your opinion of course, But this is ain't Canada or Denmark
(V): hey don't shoot the messenger, I'm just posting different viewpoints from England now and again,, I'm on record and have hopes that everything turns out good, I honestly hope Obama turns out great because that will be good for the country ,However he's certainly not above constructive criticism and hopefully readjusts as we go on ,like he did with that moron,Van Jones, he(they) picked for Green Jobs. Also, don't forget, that he,Emmaneul, Biden, Frank, Kennedy and that economic Genius Rangel were right there wheeling and dealing with the Republicans,so I don't give either side a free pass
(V): How about the one calling him "dear leader", or the one from the chinese article saying" Don't worry China. We will print PLENTY of money so there will be enough for everyone!"