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Charles Martel: hahahaha... what about that Tuesday???? All the dems are just so smart and sensitive and they do nothing wrong... hahahah Kennedy is but one on a long list of dumb ass democrats
题目: Re: Well what the Huck are two people who can only obtain minimum wage jobs doing having kids in the first place
(V): You say: Are you saying that only the rich should have babies? Are you proposing a somewhat big brother approach to having families where only approved parents can have children and any poor people who have babies are to be prosecuted and jailed?
People have to have a license to Fish or Hunt in the USA. (Not sure if it is that way over there) Yet anyone can have a baby! I DO think that people should have to prove they can bring up a child properly before having one! Of course, that is absolutely impossible. And who would be the person who makes this decision? And my solution to not allowing babies until after this proof, would be controversial as well. lol. Some sort of mandatory birth control until you DO get a license to have a child. Before you blast me for that, I know that would be a very bad solution. It has it's merits though.
题目: Re: Well what the Huck are two people who can only obtain minimum wage jobs doing having kids in the first place
rod03801: Whats wrong with a license to have a baby? At least a course, and a test, something to make them think a bit first, it might not be perfect, but I bet it would help prevent some from having one that they cant take care or adequately?
Czuch: It's not just Bush, it was the government he had as well. Theydidn't think before they acted. As they say "A good warrior wins first then goes to battle, while a bad one goes to battle and hopes to win."
OPEC was a factor out of Carter's control, just like everyone else found. They were a uncontrollable factor that through only talk could the situation be resolved.... Just like with every other country affected by the oil crises. It was a global event!!
题目: Re: Well what the Huck are two people who can only obtain minimum wage jobs doing having kids in the first place
rod03801: Sorry, but with the way certain services designed to stop bad bad parents have .. um.. mucked up, such a system just could not work. There is no way you can be sure of what the future may bring to the chosen ones, how an incident may cause one to go bananas.
And how are you going to persuade millions of people to under go temporary 'sterilisation', plus the factor that you are limiting the gene pool is dangerous. Plus the revolts would cause civil war in America, even within republican groups due to certain bits of the Bible celebrating what marriage is about.
....... More money to child protection services and better training would be better. Better education at school over birth control and STI's, free condoms to teenagers, plus other plans to show the FACTS about unprotected sex in adverts would be better.
The Chinese have a system based on fines for families that have over 2 (I think) children. But that is over population control, to stop the Chinese people out growing their country.
题目: Re: Well what the Huck are two people who can only obtain minimum wage jobs doing having kids in the first place
Czuch: Um no, your gun policy is a state thing, otherwise how can a bank get away with giving out free rifles for opening an account!!
No... I have realism. I've seen how loopholes can be used and how serial killers and child abusers (from watching stuff that probes such people) on how a face can be put on. I've also seen people who've past their driving test drink drive, or drive so dangerously that they kill or maim others.
A driving test pass means you can drive, it's no guarantee you'll be a good driver though.
Czuch: Partially, some of his foreign policies were making waves, and on the otherside the price of oil went through the roof and oil companies saw that as an excuse to rip off people and make huge profits... Also the energy companies saw the same excuse.
Tuesday: 30 Rock is good,but I never keep track of when certain programs are on,except sports.I think all the white noise of nightly watching 4 hours of politicians jabbering at eachother finally caught up with me after 8 years.I've always been interested in Lincoln,I thoroughly enjoyed the PBS presentatio called "Finding Lincoln" last week, Charlie Rose also presents a calm mature discussion
Tuesday: it's not a PBS show,not sure what channel carries it in the USA, it's the funniest show Canada has produced since Kids in the hall and SCTV.......................I just noticed Direct tv in the states has begun airing it
(V): "...a certain amount of living is required before certain aspects of Judaism can be taught. For to try to teach before hand would be like planting a seed in barren soil."
That is an excellent point. And it presupposes something else, that the first 40 years weren't spent in a stupor, but rather that the mind had been daily exercised through broad study and contemplation. One man I know says that trying to discuss politics with most of his fellow Americans is a fruitless endeavor. Before any meaningful discussion can take place, he first recommends they spend 20 years reading every book they can get their hands on, from every political persuasion, right, left, and center, and couple that with study of history, philosophy, theology, etc., just whatever is needed to get some kind of handle on the real world. Then perhaps an intelligent discussion that may lead somewhere constructive might ensue. Needless to say, most don't appreciate his recommendation. :o)
It's nice to come on and see able defenders of what I consider to be a better understanding of the world & politics, not to mention a reflection of larger hearts. I mean the posts of (V) and Tuesday. You guys are awesome. Keep it up! :o)
It's nice to come on and see able defenders of what I consider to be a better understanding of the world & politics,
Are you kidding me??? With basically just two political philosophies, at least here in the US, even a monkey can get lucky and happen to agree with you from time to time, I think you give them too much credit though if you think they have the some of the same beliefs as you and for the same reasons dont sell yourself so short
I am no Christian fundamentalist, but I share a few of the same views with them but for very different reasons, and just because we might happen to vote the same way, I have no illusions that they are on the same plane, so to speak....
题目: what I consider to be a better understanding of the world & politics,
Czuch:It translates this way: what I consider to be a better understanding of the world & politics, because it agrees with my view.
Its another way of saying that you lack understanding of the world and politics. It's a stealth. It's the dreaded ad hominem again.
I'm still waiting for anyone to give a good example of where socialism has worked for the average man. In what socialist country has the socialist policies allowed the averege "joe" to "get ahead?" Only a free-market system can do that.
How soon people have forgotten the economic lessons we learned in the Regan era. Obama's policies will fail because they are built on false premises.