Artful Dodger: "hahaha this icon actually looks like me."

I thought you might do that. In fact I was hoping you do that... that little crying monkey was freaking me out.

FIC-TION-AL CHARACTERS

The Col: Is this some tech from "The Bionic woman"??

<<<< Note to those who thought that program was real>>>>

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< it was a fic-tion-al story>>>>>>>>>>>>>

(V): "women have ways to shut that thing down"

Is this guy really that dumb????, or a deliberate liar???

Iamon lyme: hahaha this icon actually looks like me. Or I it. Cept I'm fatter.

Artful Dodger: Oh stop crying, ya big ape. er, uh, I mean, little ape.

There, there, come on now... it's going to be okay!

Iamon lyme: Nobody wants me

Artful Dodger: "Who they gonna shoot?"

Maybe we shouldn't be talking so much here, it could be one of us. I mean, it could be you... I'm just a figment of your imagination.

Ya hear that, G men? It's not me you want... it's HIM!

Anonymous sources reveal no new information has surfaced regarding a previously purported impending attack against an unidentified person (or persons) of interest living at an undisclosed location. These same unnamed sources have revealed that all other pertinent items of information are assumed to have been redacted from classified documents, and are presumably in the possession of the proper dope smoking authorities. It has also been revealed that these documents have been secretly classified under the heading "For No Ones Eyes Only" for an unspecified length of time, only to be opened and read by no one in particular after this unspecified length of time has expired.

Iamon lyme: Did you hear that the US govt is buying hundreds of thousands of rounds of hollow point bullets? Even the US National weather service is buying. Who they gonna shoot?

Artful Dodger: "Biden looks like he has makeup."

The area showing Biden has been airbrushed... an old school touch up job, hardly worth mentioning.

"Or he's holding his breath."

Naaa... he always looks like that.

Iamon lyme: Biden looks like he has makeup. Or he's holding his breath.

Iamon lyme:

If you look closely, you will notice that Nancy Pelosi's face is not contorted... this pic has obviously been photo shopped.

Artful Dodger: "Biden has a new look"

I saw that picture somewhere else. I decided not to use it because if you look at his mouth, you will see that it only stops him from biting... he can still talk.

Like him or not, Kid Rock ROCKS.

Biden has a new look: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/assets/Hannibal%20Biden.png

Iamon lyme: Well they are losing the arguments in the courts. I'll bet that just puts the crumbs in their bedding.

(V): "It's always race first!?!"

Not who comes in first, but who gets the most votes... if that's what you meant.

Artful Dodger: I know this, you know this, and even they know this. And we all know who they are really trying to fool with this nonsense... those who don't know this, and are most likely to vote for them.

There must be enough people who don't know (or don't want to know) for the Democrats to be making this kind of pitch, otherwise it wouldn't be worth the effort. No one goes out on a limb and intentionlly says foolish things unless they believe it will accomplish their purpose... I don't know if I'm underestimating liberals or overestimating them, because they seem to think this will work... they can't all be idiots.

"Well it's well documented and some races have been won via voter fraud. "

It's always race first!?!

BTW, Kid Rock is a Patriot!

Alabama Woman Shoots Home Intruder to Protect Herself and Her Ax- and Knife-Wielding Daughters

WVTM Martha Lewis intruder

Martha Lewis shot an intruder in her home to protect herself and her daughters. (Image source: WVTM-TV)

An Alabama woman said she was forced to shoot an intruder that broke into her home this week in order to protect herself and her daughters.

Martha Lewis of Dora, Ala. told WVTM-TV it was about 3 a.m. Tuesday morning when she heard a loud noise, which turned out to be someone kicking in her door. Lewis said she called the police and grabbed her gun, then went to her daughters’ room and told them each to get something to defend themselves with. She said one grabbed an ax and one got a butcher knife.

They were at the top of the stairs when they saw a man standing there at the bottom.

“I knew when he stepped on the landing that I would have to shoot him,” Lewis told the station. “He starts like coming up the stairs and he said, ‘would you shoot me?‘ And I said ’I don’t want to have to but I will.’”

Ignoring her warnings, the man kept coming — and that’s when Lewis said she fired.

“It wasn’t like, oh can I pull the trigger? It was like when should I shoot? When will he be close enough that I know I won’t miss him? That’s one of the things that was going through my mind,” she said.

The man stumbled outside into the yard where police found him, WVTM reported. Police said he’s 25-year-old Michael Jacobs and was hospitalized in stable condition.
Alabama Woman Martha Lewis Shoots Home Intruder to Protect Herself and Her Daughters

Lewis said she woke up when she heard a loud noise, which turned out to be an intruder kicking in her door. (Image source: WVTM-TV)

Lewis told the station one of the responding police officers said it would have been a different situation if she hadn’t been armed.

“One of them said we would be writing up a different report if she had not had that gun,” Lewis said.

Police said Lewis will not be charged for shooting the suspect. He faces charges of burglary and criminal mischief as well as possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia, according to WVTM.

Lewis said she’s had the gun for about three years but only for protection purposes.

“There‘s so much talk about banning guns and gun control but they’re for protection,” she said. “There’s no way that I could have fought him off.”

Iamon lyme: I really believe that the reason the democrats are fighting voter ID requirements is that they've exploited the lax requirements in some polling areas. One of their arguments against Voter ID is that voter fraud isn't really a problem. Well it's well documented and some races have been won via voter fraud.

I love it that Jules brought up Bush "stealing" the Presidential election. Bush had won Flordia and the election and Al Gore called Bush and conceded the election. Then AFTER that call, Gore changed his mind and decided to challenge the Florida count. The Dems got right to work searching for boxes of "uncounted votes." Surprise, surprise; they found some. Then there was the "chad" question. What a farce. In the end, Gore took it to the courts and the courts ruled against him. Then the democrats claimed that the courts gave the election to the Republicans! Wait a sec! They are the ones that started the court proceedings! They will do anything to win.

A Martian emissary whose existence cannot be verified has sent us information that cannot be confirmed about an impending Martian attack on an unidentified Englishman whom we can't be certain of.

... Sorry, I forgot. He is not American so it doesn't matter.

The text of the purported Israeli cabinet memo is just that, text. There is no document as such and thus it is impossible to verify if it is indeed an Israeli cabinet paper of some kind. But its purpose for Richard Silverstein is clear. He believes it was passed by a serving officer to the politician and then leaked by him precisely to alert the outside world to the scale of Israel's military plan to strike at Iran and thus to reduce the chances of it ever happening.

An unprecedented public debate is under way in Israel on the wisdom of launching an attack against Iran. And this leaked document, whatever its source, and whatever its original purpose, has become an element in that debate.

The document itself is striking in both the scale and scope of the military operation that it proposes. It also employs a range of technologies, many of which we have known that the Israelis are developing, but this document suggests that they are battle-ready and fully operational.

Jonathan Marcus BBC Diplomatic Correspondent

This war.. Hooh, what is it good for.. absolutely nothing.

500 Israeli dead and leaking nuclear reactors.. Iranian civilians dead or contaminated (Mutagens being a higher death category then straight forward death) .. cancer, radiation poisoning and the unborn kids..

... Sorry, I forgot. They are not American so they don't count.

Artful Dodger: I don't get how he or The Col think they can get away with defending voter fraud... it seems their strategy is to call it anything but what it actually is. And if Canadian conservatives talk like our liberals, then I can only imagine what we would be hearing from their liberals.

Next thing you know they'll be against the death penalty because more Democrats are being executed than Republicans. If it was the other way around they would be encouraging the statis quo instead of kicking against it. But it's hypocritical of me to... to do what? To disagree with their point of view based only on wanting to insure standards of fairness are being equally applied?


Normally I won't quote what I've already said, but hey, why not... I'll probably be accused of 'nicking' myself. lol

>>>> Or when a five year old says "That's not fair!", you know it doesn't mean "I've looked at this from other points of view, and it's obvious to me that standards meant to insure fairness are not being equally applied." <<<<

Iamon lyme: I told ya you'd get frustrated with Jules. Get ready for more. Hell take the side of any issue as long as its not yours.

Bull. If voter fraud favored the Republicans instead of the Democrats, the left would be crying "foul!" And you would be here agreeing with them.

Conservatism showing it's hypocritical.....

(V): "NIMBY's"

How many backyards do you have?

We've seen what's in your "backyard", and trust me... you won't be winning the coveted Red Neck Yard of the Week award anytime soon.

(you are overqualifiied)


And by backyard I mean "the windmills of your mind".

Is that 'literate' as in knowin how ta read and rite, or 'literate' as in actually understanding what it is you are reading? Please elaborate with the usual obsfucation.

I could ask 'without the obfuscation', but ah know that ain't a going ta happin... nope.

Liberals get so excited over tempests in a teapot. After calling them on it there's nothing left to do but laugh about it.

If I was a liberal, I wouldn't be trying to influence simple minded voters unless I believed most Democrats were simple minded. They insult the intelligence of their own people. Either that or it's understood by all Democrats that party identity and loyalty are all it takes to be a good Democrat.

A simple minded grab for power may get you there, but once you get there then what? Then you get goof balls who have no idea what they are doing other than to try keeping that power from slipping away.

Then they complain that the opposition is not playing fair and is being mean, as though being a gentleman pirate is something everyone should strive to be. Aaarrrrrrh, give me all a yer booty won't ya please?

rod03801: ... wow.. but it has.

.. Get a clue.

NIMBY's

The Col: Never is. But, I think over 50% should be required to actually be a valid election. If they bore the people.. they don't get in.

rod03801: Bill Maher. Let me quote Alex jones or limbaugh.

It's all gobbledy-gook playing with words. There is NO good reason to not require ID. Implemented the sooner the better.

Bill Maher? . What a numbskull HE is! Has NOTHING to do with literacy. Get a grip

It's all background noise. Who cares what either side has to say against it?

Regardless of what party, it should only be people who can legally vote, voting.

And shouldn't make a difference if it's an election year, or a leap year, or a blue moon. Sooner the better.

(V): Even if they were to implement these new photo ids, you would think it would be done in a non election year as not to put things on such a short schedule leading to the federal election.I don't think both sides intent is maximum turnout though

In 2007, a report prepared by the staff of the federal Election Assistance Commission found that, among experts, "there is widespread but not unanimous agreement that there is little polling place fraud".[22] The report was based on research conducted by Job Serebov, Republican elections lawyer, and Tova Wang, voting expert from the Century Foundation.[22]

The final version released to the public, however, stated that there was "a great deal of debate on the pervasiveness of fraud."[22] Democrats charged that the commission, with a Republican majority, had altered the conclusion for political reasons, which the commission denied.[22] During the George W. Bush administration, "The [Department of Justice] devoted unprecedented resources to ferreting out polling-place fraud over five years and appears to have found not a single prosecutable case across the country," Slate reported.[23]

The Democratic Party fought the voter identification laws, calling them the GOP war on Voting and a return of Jim Crow disenfranchisement. Civil rights groups were vocal about the laws, saying they disproportionately hurt blacks and Latinos.[24] According to another report commissioned by the Election Assistance Commission, one effect of voter identification laws is lower turnout, especially among members of minorities.[22]

On June 23, 2012, Pennsylvania's Speaker of the House, Republican Mike Turzai stated that Pennsylvania's recent voter identification law would "allow Governor [Mitt] Romney to win Pennsylvania"[25] in the 2012 U.S. Presidential election.[26][27]
Studies

rod03801: It's funny that we have "phony, non-existent "voter fraud"" and in the same breath voter fraud from the GOP. Is it non-existent or does it happen?

It's clear from evidence that the Democrats in Minnesota "found" the needed votes for Al Frankin to defeat Norm Coleman. Coleman was up by nearly a thousand votes but the Democrats kept finding uncounted votes until
Frankin was up by over 300. Then they were satisfied.

Acorn has officials in jail for "phony, non-existent voter fraud." Maybe those officials are in a phony, non-existent jail.

You are right that it's a simple concept. Get an ID, vote. Prove you are a legal voter. The GOP is purging dead people, felons, illegal aliens, and other non eligible persons from voter rolls. The Dems wants those people left alone.

The liberals are fighting hard to keep voter ID OUT of elections. It gets in the way of their stealing elections. Now they'll have to create fake IDs. They will do it too and some will get caught and some will go to jail.

But some will still say it's non-existent. (interesting how, according to the Democrats, only poor blacks can't figure out how to get a voter ID - if a conservative held that position the libs would cry racist!)

In 1978 the Mormons changed their official position of the mark of Cain... Why??

Power, loss of members, loss of position.

rod03801: I never said it was racist.. it's about loss of power by a certain group of people.

Like those in Northern Ireland who were against the Peace talks. They were white fighting white. Peace meant less power.

It is THAT simple, so why complicate it!!

(V):
Blah blah blah. Nothing to do with race. Nothing to do with party.
I don't care if you are black, white, yellow, purple, Democrat, Republican,Communist,Socialist.

Get a stupid ID and vote. It's only logical.

All the rest of the distractions are just that, distractions. Nothing to do with race. Nothing to do with partisanship.

Voting is important. It's important that only people who can legally vote should vote.

It's really quite simple.

The people who say the poor minorities aren't bright enough to follow the law and have an ID sound like the racists to me.

The irony of the GOP-sponsored voter I.D. laws to address phony, non-existent "voter fraud" is that the GOP completely ignores the ballot box frauds of 2000 (Florida, which allowed G.W. Bush to take the White House--with a little help from the extreme right-wing judicial activists on the Supreme Court) and of 2004 (the state of Ohio which had some districts reporting voter results for Bush five times that actual registered voters)--all occurring under Republican state attorneys-general.

In the final analysis, we must simply acknowledge the sad truth of the GOP: it is not just the diminishing of white Protestant voters that is reducing the GOP to permanent minority-party status. It is the utter lack of reasonable, sane, sensible public officials as candidates for public office in the GOP. What the GOP now offers are rabid, irrational ideologues serving gerrymandered voting districts who have no sane, sensible, rational policy proposals to address the serious problems that face our nation--much of those problems having been caused by the GOP in the first place.

What is the solution for the GOP? There is none, really. It is the last bastion of a dying, evangelical, Protestant, religious extremism that has interfered in American politics like wing-nut gadflys since the New Deal but only gaining influence and a guarded "respectability" with the rise of Ronald Reagan and his insincere pandering to what is now regarded as the GOP's "base".

It is irrelevant that this "base" now controls The House. Its control is temporary.

Such ideology as currently expounded by the Republican Party adherents cannot be sustained if the GOP wishes to be a majority party that wins elections based on the quality of its candidates' characters and/or the policy proposals that would address all Americans' concerns for our country and its future.

Short of a coup d'etat or a second civil war--which the current GOP's leadership and rank-and-file have insidiously courted as "alternatives" to the election of Democratic Party candidates to the White House and Congress--the GOP will slowly whither away.

What must be guarded against is that in the GOP's death throws that it does not do more harm than it has already done to our democratic-republican form of government or our national institutions.

When George W. Bush’s narrowly won reelection in 2004, not a single American state had a law requiring voters to present photographic identification at the polls. Today about 10 states, with 134 electoral votes among them, have enacted such laws—all at the prompting of Republicans.

Republicans are not responding to a newly discovered crisis in voter impersonation at the polls, but to a partisan crisis brought on by their party’s declining base of white Protestant voters. If the GOP can’t grow its own voter base, it can at least hope to shrink the Democrats’ base.

Photo-identification laws are targeted heavily at Democratic minority voters, who are significantly less likely than whites to possess the required identifications. A reduction in the votes of racial minorities relative to the votes of reliably Republican white Protestants benefits the GOP. In an unguarded moment, Pennsylvania’s state House majority leader, Republican Mike Turzai, said that his state’s newly enacted photo-identification law “is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania.” In a response to a lawsuit challenging the law, the state’s attorneys admitted that they were “not aware of any incidents of in-person voter fraud.” Impartial studies have reached similar conclusions about voter impersonation across the nation.

In contrast to voter fraud, the decline of the Republican’s base vote is real and pervasive. America is no longer a white Protestant nation. Until the late-20th century, white Protestants had composed the majority of Americans and the overwhelmingly majority of voters. That white Protestant majority has since disappeared. Fewer than 40 percent of all Americans today are white and Protestant, though the group, which tends to be older and more likely to vote, is usually overrepresented at the polls.

The percentage of white Protestants among voters will continue to slide as America becomes increasingly non-white. The big states of Texas and California are already majority non-white and all of America is likely to follow suit before mid-century according to US Census projections. Hispanics, the nation’s largest minority group, are increasingly gaining citizenship and voting. African American voter turnout now closely approximates that of whites.

The dependence of the Republican Party on white Protestant voters is deeply rooted in the party’s history. The modern Republican Party took shape in the 1920s out of a widespread concern that secular, pluralistic, and cosmopolitan forces threatened America’s national identity as a white Protestant nation. At the core of conservative politics both in the 1920s and today is the ideal of America as a unified nation that upholds traditional white Protestant values.

White Protestant voters overwhelmingly backed Republican candidates in the early 20th century, with the exception of the South, which was solidly opposed to the party of Lincoln until later in the 20th century. Racial and religious divisions in voting remain pervasive today, far overshadowing divisions of gender or class. And white Protestants are still overwhelmingly Republican. In 2004, according to exit polls, George W. Bush won two thirds of the white Protestant vote, but only about 11 percent of the African-American vote, 44 percent of the Hispanic vote, and 25 percent of the Jewish vote. In 2008, John McCain won 65 percent of the white Protestant vote, but only about 5 percent of the African-American vote, 31 percent of the Hispanic vote, and 21 percent of the Jewish vote. Republican support among evangelical, white Protestants has been especially impressive, with Bush winning 79 percent and McCain 73 percent.

rod03801: Those on the left need a whambulance!

Voter fraud is well documented and the left knows it. And if a person is too stupid to figure out how to get a voter ID then they shouldn't vote. I'm tired of the voter fraud. Do the left wing nuts only believe those on the right are intelligent enough to obtain a proper ID?