The Col: unfortunately she has only been in a home for about 3 months...before that she was running a home, and had a great social life. As soon as she was put on meds the incontinence started. She had started to wander the neighbour hood. Her alzheimers/dementia is in the frontal lobe which is a total different disease than the rear part of the brain. She is allowed home but her partner can't handle it...sad though it is, he hasnt the mental strength to cope. He already sold his business so he could look after her but it got too much for him:(

I have just found this that applies basically to her....
Frontotemporal Dementia
Frontotemporal dementia (frontotemporal lobar degeneration) is an umbrella term for a diverse group of rare disorders that primarily affect the frontal and temporal lobes of the brain — the areas generally associated with personality and behavior.
In frontotemporal dementia, portions of these lobes atrophy, or shrink. Signs and symptoms vary, depending upon the portion of the brain affected. Some people with frontotemporal dementia undergo dramatic changes in their personality and become socially inappropriate, impulsive or emotionally blunted, while others lose the ability to use and understand language.
Frontotemporal dementia is often misdiagnosed as a psychiatric problem or as Alzheimer’s disease. But frontotemporal dementia tends to occur at a younger age than does Alzheimer’s disease, typically between the ages of 40 and 70. And the memory problems associated with Alzheimer’s disease are not as prominent in the early stages of frontotemporal dementia.
The term FTD as a ‘general term’ can also be referred to as:

◦Pick’s Disease
◦Frontotemporal Lobar Degeneration
◦Progressive Aphasia
◦Semantic Dementia

Bernice: incontinence can also just be a later stage development, though I'm not very well versed on it.

(V): We all need our voices to be heard

The Col: this friend is on meds as well, and Im sure she would be alright (albeit a little confused) if she wasn't on them....what has happened to her is she dirty's her knickers all the time which never ever happened before, proof that medication isnt good. of course it is common knowledge that the medication is to keep them quiet so the nurses don't have to work as hard.

I might add this lady is only 54 years old

Tuesday: my error,I didn't read the details

Tuesday: are meds involved? my mom got a little loopy near the end, but it was probably the morphine talking

Bernice: the person she is seeing is her living partner...in fact as long as "god" lets him he will be here for dinner tonite.

Mousetrap: A friend has alzheimers...from her room in the "gaol" that she is locked into she sees her partner out in the garden all the time...she is as healthy as a buck rabbit and isn't anywhere near death...nothing wrong with her eyes either...but why is she seeing him and I can't...maybe your nerves theory is correct....

You may think I'm making this up, but Mr Roboto by Styx describes that very scenario

Artful Dodger: I think the scripture on the seed and the sower says nay to that. God may give the option, but as to whether you take up on that has to be a matter of free will. Any lack of free will and we are not Children.. just robots.

Mousetrap: When it came to Moses seeing the ten plagues and such.. It could be said he was seeing the future. Or, he was connecting unconsciously to some gland that animals have still got the sense to have regarding feeling certain vibrations when it comes to EM and other such natural vibrations that occur.

Do we need Derek??

The Col:

Mousetrap: maybe you're hearing voices

(V): Exactly! It does,nt

Tuesday: Yes I have seen things too with out being close to death. But I am still not convinced. I went to a service once where the Minister said he had heard his name being called in the night and he was convinced it was God calling to him. I hear my name being called all the time but I dont believe it is God I believe is a trick of the
nerves remembering long ago sounds. So what is to prevent different nerves remembering images instead of sounds I have no clue.

Mousetrap: I always thought when in the NT we being described as a body, implied that.

A hand does not see/feel the same way as a nose, does it

Mousetrap: That's because when it comes to the Bible it's best to remember the PaRDeS rule of interpretation.

* Peshat (פְּשָׁט) — "plain" ("simple") or the direct meaning[1].
* Remez (רֶמֶז) — "hints" or the deep (allegoric: hidden or symbolic) meaning beyond just the literal sense.
* Derash (דְּרַשׁ) — from Hebrew darash: "inquire" ("seek") — the comparative (midrashic) meaning, as given through similar occurrences.
* Sod (סוֹד) (pronounced with a long O as in 'bone') — "secret" ("mystery") or the mystical meaning, as given through inspiration or revelation.


..... As to who gets the best cut.. some was.. some was things like cleanliness.

Tuesday: I've never seen Winnie the Pooh, so he didn't exist either, oh but there are books that say it was so.

Artful Dodger: "Frankly, I find the Bible quite convincing. I think God has adequately revealed himself in his Word, and through His Son. "
there you have it...its YOUR prerogative to believe. not KNOW.

Tuesday: I have worked on the St John,s Fragment the oldest papyrus that is supposed to exist in the world today and I still dont believe in the God that exists in the Bible. I believe like Rod it is a personal thing and can mean different things to different people.

(V): When you think about it it is hard to take anything the Bible says literally it is all one great big jigsaw puzzle. Apart from some of the actural places that still exist today. I find it very hard to believe that anything especially the OT was inspired by God when it was wrote for Jews by Jews and the laws were wrote to make sure that the Rabbi got the best of every thing including all the best food. Reminds me of our politicians today, one law for them and one for the rest of us.

These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke and Didymos Judas Thomas recorded.

1. And he said, "Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death."

2. Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. [And after they have reigned they will rest.]"

3. Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.

37. His disciples said, "When will you appear to us, and when will we see you?"

Jesus said, "When you strip without being ashamed, and you take your clothes and put them under your feet like little children and trample then, then [you] will see the son of the living one and you will not be afraid."

77. Jesus said, "I am the light that is over all things. I am all: from me all came forth, and to me all attained.

Split a piece of wood; I am there.
Lift up the stone, and you will find me there."

Artful Dodger: And if all are not "illuminated" then it's perfectly logical.

a leap of faith requires no reason.. it just is.

rod03801: I'll bet you scoff in a hostile way

Artful Dodger: Until he runs it by ME, I'll continue to scoff at all the books that claim to be written by God.

rod03801: Because I said so.

I forgot to mention - God runs everything by me first. ;)