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bwild - my suggestion earlier was the 3 month Rook wouldnt be able to form a Fellowship - for your exact reason, but would just have the access to more games and more tournaments - tempting them to get into playing loads of games and multiple tournaments - hopefully encouraging them to renew at the end of 3 monts for a full 6 months package - then getting full Rook benefits.....
as a rook,they can form fellowships...if they lapse after 3 monthes,there would be an open fellowship.I would think that with the existing numer of fellowships(some members have more than 2) the fellowship increase and subsequent abuse,would defeat the purpose.
Hrqls - yes - but ideally it would be better if people were Rooks in my eyes. That would quell all the discussions re Knights in Fellowships and numbers of games allowed etc (see posts at the bottom of this page and just before...)
Dont know if this has been suggested before, but how about an "Introductory Level" 3 month Rook membership? (Available to a pawn upgrading for the first time only) with the benefits of a Rook - i.e. number of games/tournaments etc but without the creation of a Fellowship facility (incase they dont renew).
A smaller price (and time period) may tempt would-be pawns and once they get the benefits and see how good the site is, any subsequent renewal should be a minimum 6 months as usual....? It wouldnt cost the site any loss of revenue but potentially gives an affordable taster to those who dont want to commit to a full 6 months....
Big Bad Wolf makes pefect sence on his part of having a choice of membership its like taking away the freedom of speech as long as its negotable which fencer has allowed for everyone in the world to make the choice seeing how some people can not afford or have the time to be a rook.So it comes to there choice without that there would alot more pawns rather then knight and the pawn issue with nicks is out of control to point that nobody knows who is who.thanks Big Bad Wolf and Kevin.
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Every person here has different needs and wants from somebody else. I dont need or want the ability to play 600 games (or1600 or whatever) But I like running fellowships. You may want to play 600 games, but dont care at all about discussion boards, or whether you can show a picture of yourself. Most of us already get more than we need when paying for a knight anyway.
Why should it be cheaper for you to play 600 games and not use fellowships, than it is for me to play 30 games and use fellowships?
One price one membership, and everyone can do whatever they want to do. Some people save 42 cents a day, other people pay an extra 42 cents a day, all the new people never know any different.
Many people only want to play games here, so it makes sense to have one paying level that gives a player the ability to play more games and a higher level that gives a player the ability to start fellowships & tournaments, etc.
I see what you are saying Green.
You are either a pawn, with limited features. (which makes sense, to give people a chance to enjoy the site enough to determine if they want to join) Or a full membership, where you get all the benefits available (except access to the dice rolling codes) on the web site.
There wouldnt be another choice, so no one would feel like they only use such and such, like BBW said. It wouldnt even be an issue.
Maybe you could make the cost somewhere between what the two prices are right now, and Fencer would not lose any money?
This all started because there are not enough members to have good team tournaments. If you can just squeeze another 42 cents per day out of the rooks, you could give the knights a discount by 42 cents per day, and you would have plenty of members who are allowed to play in more than one tournament... without losing money.
Why should Fencer put in extra effort to remove the Knight membership?
And besides, if the knight membership is just what someone wants, why take it away from them?
my proposition was to not give the choice, just get rid of the knigh memebership. Who cares how many features you use? The main thing you pay for is to play the games whenever you want.
Buy why? Many knights barley even use more then what they get as Pawns, and don't need the features of a rook. If they had a choice of either paying more, or just droping a few games - many would probable just drop a few games.
I think it would end up losing money for BrainKing.
If the price is the same as the rook for everything, some knights would not pay since they barley use what they have now. If the price was the same as a knight, with the option to donate more - well then many users like myself will spend just what we need to get the membership, and not donate anything more.
i know, i was just being all inclusive in the description. Just one level of membership (equal to rooks) is really needed, and lift all the restrictions. In fact I can't really understand why people choose knights when they can be rooks for an additional 83c per month.