Backoff: People were banned for what was said in the cave so it does matter, apparently, even if the person's that are talked about aren't present.

Backoff: Not True Backoff!!!!

I was booted and BANNED from the Flame! Why? Because I violated your "rules." Simple. I was censored.

Walter Montego: Yes a few of the members are avid about it and thats fine.

When I left, I had hoped that would have ended the belittling of me by the few in the f/s that seem to enjoy that.

I wanted only a reasonable and meaningful discussion of the pros and cons. It wasn't my intentions of starting WWIII

Out of respect to Harley and Pedro I am done with the subject until perhaps a later date when everyone can remain civil and have an open discussion.

ClayNashvilleTn: I fail to see what your problem is Clay. The title of that particular fellowship clearly states what it is about. No censorship is one thing, but I assume that it is still moderated. Standoff said you left the fellowship, so that's the end of that.

As for all your worries, I can't imagine that obscure fellowship having any effect on anyone. If you don't like it, then don't join it. I can't say if I'd like it or not as I'm not joining it anyways. Let's assume for the sake of argument that someone in there is badmouthing me. I have to ask, so what? I'm not a member, so I don't read the post. If I was a member the very nature of that particular fellowship allows me to lash out if I want to, or just rebut the nasty post concerning myself. I could also leave the fellowship if I was a member and grew tired of such things. Since you've left the fellowship, why are you trying to impose your moral judgment on those that remain or restrict someone that might actually have fun and enjoy such a wide open and ranging fellowship? Judging from the number of posts in the short time since I asked if you were a member of said fellowship, I'd say you've struck a nerve with the members of that fellowship. I agree with Pedro, and in fact think that such a fellowship probably brings in more members that it might cause to leave. It certainly can't hurt to have a place to vent one's anger at the system and could indirectly lead to positive change in some cases. Even though I doubt if I'd be offended by the carrying ons of the fellowship, those that are can do just as I have, don't join it.

ClayNashvilleTn: I understand that, Clay. But PMs are a better instrument for that purpose, in my opinion.

Pedro Martínez: I agree with everything you said. My intention was not to raise people Pedro. I just want the to stop raising me behind my back.

Thanks for the comments.
I'll yield to You and Harley.

I nominate (A..Z) Chessmaster1000, Clay, Nobleheart and Pedro, Walter Montego.

Andre Faria: They used arrows originally!!

ClayNashvilleTn: Clay, please, stop it. Flame pit was created and designed with the view that people WILL be offending and hurting each other there. Anyone who can't stand it can leave. Plus he/she can put anyone on the enemies list. I don'r see how the Flame Pit is hurting the BK. You don't have to read what's being said there and you'll be just fine. Stop trying to raise people.

Just one dart??????

harley: Firstly a period for nominations (including self-nominations) and then the voting stage. People could perhaps pose a question or two along with their nomination.

Why only a list of names? Why not line the people up and throw a dart?! (JOKE!)

baddessi: Ah, Ok. Thanks :)

Andre Faria: I think to vote on the next person to be interviewed. I like your suggestion backoff

harley:Harley I have tried to word my statements w/o offense.

If others that can't seem to ask them to cease.

Please show me where my questions are personal?

Put everyones name on a list a throw darts at it!!!!

harley: to vote on what?

Backoff, floosie has her questions and is pondering the best way to answer them!

That reminds me, I did see the discussion about how people are chosen, I didn't have time to reply at the time - sorry.
Up to now I guess it has been me and Fencer who has decided, but I'm open to new ideas of how to choose someone. Someone mentioned a poll, that would be good but how would a short list be chosen for people to vote on?

harley: Back to my interviews question....

Nicely said Harley

edited to comply with the wishes of upper management.

OK guys this is getting personal now. Please stop this discussion, the flame pit is within the rules and anyone who is offended can leave.

Backoff:There have been numerous people relentlessly attacked by name to the point they have left BK.

How can it unless someone is going around and telling what is said there. Are you saying someone is doing that? Who?

ClayNashvilleTn: Ok please tell me who it is hurting and offending. To know what is being said in there, you have to be a member of the fellowship. Anyone that joins gets warned up front what the manner of uncensored discussion is. Please explain to me where this is comming from. I'm really tired of seeing this nonsense all over the site.

Backoff:Please discuss what sounds to me as reasonable points? Are you concerned if the Flame Pit is hurting and needlessly offending members ?

I'm done with this. Bye now.

Because of the uniqueness of this site,(anything goes) I think it needs some type of special intervention.

I do not even believe the Big Boss realizes the damage it does to BK and if he did I honestly think he would reconsider his ground rules.

On a very different side note, I was just looking at the interviews and a certain blue-haired womans is still missing.....

clay how many boards are you going to start this trash on ? ..just so i know which will be a waste of time looking at for the next 24 hours.

Clay: I've never heard of the Flame Pit. We can't discuss it without knowing what it is, what's going on, etc.

Wish me luck ..... I'm going in. ;-)

Backoff: No, I am not the only one that has a problem. I may the only one with the courage to bring it up, anyone that dares point out your policies will receive like treatment as well, but what I have already experienced while I was in there on two separate occasions has toughened my skin to the point that I think I can handle it now.

ClayNashvilleTn: It's not breaking any BK rules, the only time it even comes close to it is when people take stuff from there and bring it onto the public boards. None of the members there do that.

In reply to your question: "is it not possible for Mgmt to at least require a rule that no one is to make up false and erroneous information without them being a part of the f/s?"

This would be very difficult to do. If actual names weren't used, people would get around that by nick-names or descriptions.
The person being talked about would have to find out about any information posted about them in a fellowship - and then who can tell if something is false or not? Its a very difficult request to honour, even if these rules were in place.

Walter Montego: He was and he left. Like I said before, anyone can join, just ask

Before you start a witch hunt on yet another DB, can I point out that 1) Anyone is free to join there and 2) you seem to be the only one that has a problem.

ClayNashvilleTn: Are you a member of that fellowship?

I would like to have an open discussion about the merits of the Flame Pit.

I know it's taboo to even mention rules enforced by Mgmt upon a f/s, but I believe the future of BK is being Jeopardized.

When a group of people are given and encouraged to have free run and anything goes including the bashing of Fencer, Globs and Mods and attacking innocent members behind their backs with lies and false and made up information something is badly wrong.


In this severe case of gross misconduct is it not possible for Mgmt to at least require a rule that no one is to make up false and erroneous information without them being a part of the f/s?

shagglbrox: yup, all current games & tournaments - Plus any "next rounds" in tournaments will all start and continue.

Like Bry said, no new games.

PLUS - NO MORE POND MOVES - so if you are in a pond, you will not be able to make any moves.

shagglbrox: you will continue your existing games, but be subjected to the pawn limits - i.e. wont be able to start any more games until less than 20. (I understand)

shagglbrox: I think you will be able to finish them :-)

what happens to your running tournament games if you have a paying membership, then it expires?

ok, then i didnt understand that.. thanks for clarifying!

Antje: You don't get 18 hours for each move.

You start with a TOTAL TIME "pool" of 18 hours.

Take an example with NO BONUS

You start with 18 hours to make your first move - you take 8 hours.

The game comes back to you, you now have a "pool" of 10 hours to make your next move. Lets say you take 5 hours to make this move.

The game will then come back to you with only 5 hours to make your next move.

ok, so if i went to bed and game back 12 hours later and the time is an 18 hour limit, i shouldnt have timed out. i was gone 12 hours and the minimum is 18, why did i time out? i understand the added bonus, but this is a negative, i lost 6 hours.

Antje: Looks like the games were with the new Fischer's clock

Time: 18 hours, Bonus: 6 hours, Limit: 30 days

So it means you started with a time pool of 18 hours. Lets say for example you wait until 1 hour is left in your time pool.

When the move is sent back to you, your time pool of 1 hour gets an additional 6 hours (BONUS) - bringing your new time pool for the game to 7 hours.

i think something is wrong with the time out feature. ive timed out on 3 games (or 4) in the last 2 days, and i never leave less than 1 day of time. i went to bed at 11pm est and my game with the least amount of time was 1 day 8 hrs. i come here exactly 12 hours later and i find messages for 3 time outs, and the game time is 18 hours. can someone help me explain? is there something i dont know about the fischer time controls?

Jules: ok thanks .. i will ask him to :)

Hrqls: The big boss has to remove you.. I think.