Pedro Martínez: I fear I can´t take this comment very serious. An account can never behave itself it´s always the person behind that is responsible and that has to accept the consequences. That means (in my opinion) if somebody is banned, the person is banned and all his connected accounts (old and new, if traceable) for now and in the future, untill the ban is over.

Pedro Martínez: Sorry, but I don't get that. You as we all know it takes alot to get banned from the whole site. And as in this case, the person was banned in stages from much of the site and normal things.. Then to be allowed back on...

Is LJ back on here??

And it is a person behind each and every account. I do admit that in some cases it is hard to prove wrong doing and the level as such is not worth the effort to track down someone (such as the various multi nicks on this site) .... But a site ban use to mean a site ban.
In the past, such as the cave incident.. the people had to be given Fencer's ok to come back.

This is why people are a little perplexed by the current matter being discussed.

Pedro Martínez: Then that means that anybody can get banned and come back as another name....I would like to see a poll done on how the "users" of BK think of that....not too good I don't think. But thanks for your input :)

Bernice: I believe it is the behavior of "accounts", not "people", what should be considered in terms of banning. If the person whose name cannot be mentioned here does not violate the BK rules under his new account, in my opinion there is no reason to ban him again.

Bernice: as long as there is money to be made, there is never a true ban.

I have a query...there was a person banned from here (the entire site) not too long ago....can someone tell me how or why he is allowed back under a different name and he actually admits to being the same person that was banned?

Thad: there is a setting for auto-refresh, if you keep that at 5 min or less it will appear that you are always here while you are logged in

Pedro Martínez: OK, I swear there used to be a setting for that. Maybe I need a brain check. ;-)

Thanks!

Thad: No, there isn't. BK deems you to have logged out after 5 minutes of inactivity.

Isn't there a way to set how long your status remains online without reloading or clicking on a page before you appear as offline? I can't find it.

Pedro & coan.net: ok, just needs re-wording then

Have to have a discussion or some suggestions i think about a re-design (dont tell Fencer lol) of that whole signing up process.....put them together on the Facebook page

MadMonkey: I also believe if a team has 0 members signed up on the team, it will also not show. But yes, Pedro is correct - if a team already has enough players, it will not show.

MadMonkey: Yes, I am. Once a team reaches the required number of players, it is not shown among the "teams open to join" (or whatever it is called). And yes, I agree that "teams looking for players" would be more appropriate.

Pedro Martínez: Are you sure that is the reason, i am sure it was not there yesterday when i set it as main team

Either way, it should still be there as the Team is still open, maybe the Open teams to join: should be changed to Teams looking for Players: is you are correct

MadMonkey: It is not there because there already are enough players on that team to sign it up.

I am not in any Pente Team (not shocking really as i am rubbish at it lol). Anyway, there is a Team Tournament coming up, though when i look at the Tournament, i see this:

Match type: Normal game
Tournament type (?): two games (switched colors) for each two players
Minimum number of teams: 4
Maximum number of teams: unlimited
Maximum number of teams per section: 8
Number of team players: 5
Time control (?): 5 days 5 hours, standard vacation
Status: open
Last term to sign up: 25. August 2009, 04:00:00

You are not a captain of Pente team.

Open teams to join: Radost z vítězství (4), ☼ ¥εstεrday's Wørld ☼ (3), Kapříci (3), ITALIANS DO IT BETTER :D (3), World Federation of Pente (3), The Teamplayers (2), Velká A'tuin (2), THE IMMORTALS (2), Club WebTV (1), Purple World (1), The Mercenaries (1), THE WELCOME MAT (1), The Sunshine Club (1), "Le" Club (1), ABSTRAKTA (1), Polish Power (1)

NOW, that is all very interesting, i can join any of those Teams (well, IF i was in half those Fellowships lol), but agreed, the Teams are open to join if i was a member of the appropriate Fellowship

So, my question is......WHY is the Madhouse Team not in that list ? Is it just because i am boss of it ?
Can someone else look who is not in a Team and tell me what they see please

Fencer: ah yes i had a feeling that might be the cause

Imsoaddicted: It happens when BrainKing is being restarted, due to small changes or upgrades. Such downtime usually takes only a couple of seconds and the site is not available during this time period.

Fencer: the page i keep going to is

fast browser search then gaves me a list of pages on brainking which i can click on to come back in..lol

Imsoaddicted: What is "a page outside of site"?

why today when i press on move button i keep getting taken to a page outside of site
its becomming very frustrating

nodnarbo: Fencer is in Tahiti, working on some new smileys, yeah right...

nodnarbo: Good idea. I just did it.

Fencer: How about adding this link somewhere in the description of the Feature request board. Most people don't go back in the archives of brainking.info very far to read articles, and I'm sure there are a lot who've never read that article, but would benefit from reading it.

oh cool- thanks Pedro and Fencer

Fencer: Thank you

El Cid: http://brainking.info/archives/20-About-feature-requests.html

AbigailII: Sometime ago, I've asked on feature requests forum, that the chosen vacation days only disapear from our profile at the end of the day, and not at the begining, just to avoid this kind of problems. Seems Fencer didn't see it, or didn't care, for the request

alilsassy: That's another thing to be improved in the new BrainKing.

Imsoaddicted& baddessi: Thank you both for your help......I was getting so confused with all the red numbers.
The minus now makes since with the changing of calendar and auto/vac. features.

I have to agree with cd power's when he said "I don't see the logic behind having any other fancy rules."
0 should mean 0

Pedro Martínez: Thank you

alilsassy: http://brainking.com/en/OldFAQ?ht=24

alisassy: it goes into negative time when ppl change anything on the calendar page
earlier today i changed mine by turning my auto vacation day box off
quite a few of my games went to -3 days 23 hrs but over the next half a hour or so it recalculates the timings and sorts itself out

of course in my case its cause ive got way to many games..lol

alilsassy: just wanted you to know that I saw your question and looked all thru help and FAQ and couldn't find any explanations for vacation days. This might be a good thing to request on "featured Requests" board. Just wanted you to know that I looked and couldn't find an answer for you. It is confusing!

I went back to check it again 1 minute later & it says"

Backgammon Christmas in July ********* white 4. 10 hours 36 mins

I'm so confused LOL

cd power:: I think there's a site problem too.  Check this out...I just copied & pasted it from my games list"
Backgammon     Christmas in July      *********     white     4.      -13 hours 17 mins
~~~~~~~
Is the clock suppose to have -13 hours?
I understand this particular person has auto-vacation, but I've never seen the red clock minus by so many hours until last night.

Czuch: Happens to me a lot too, in Firefox.

Czuch: Have you exited your browser (completely closed it) and then reloaded it? That always works for me, as I have had the same issue.

II dont know if this might be related, probably not... but I have noticed that when I refresh this page manually, by using the "main page" link, it refreshes just fine. But when I leave it and it tries to refresh on its own, the page never finishes reloading, my little clock thingy at the top right corner of my screen just keeps on spinning and spinning

Is this a site problem, or my browser issue? It could have something to do with why games wont time out correctly? I would assume that the fact that no comment from Fencer means that he is working right now to correct some sort of issue?

cd power: I was also hoping Fencer would give us some insight on the situation as well. I'm sure that it has said (0) no vacation days remaining for more than 48 hours now.
Is there a location I can go to here at BK to read up on the time out system so that I can better understand what is going on?

AbigailII: I have also been confused for many years by the vacation day system. If a person's vacation days show zero, then when the clock counts down to zero, it should be a timeout, period. I don't see the logic behind having any other fancy rules.

rod03801: I am in the same timezone as the site uses, and what I saw happened on Friday server time. Also, I would normally see which vacation days a person has set, or whether a person uses auto-vacation. This wasn't show for the person discussed - perhaps this piece of information disappears when the number of vacation days is 0?

Perhaps Fencer could add a little tidbit of information which indicates whether a player has taken a vacation day (be it by setting the date, or auto-vacation kicking in earlier that day) "today" (A dot of some colour next to the number of vacation days remaining will do). This can avoid confusion in the future.

Still, what I don't understand is, if a person who has Saturday and Sunday set as weekend days, times out on a Friday, and Friday is either a vacation day, or autovacation kicks in, why does that person have 24 hours added to the clock, and not 72?

Imsoaddicted:

Imsoaddicted:

alilsassy: dont worry about it
i sometimes dont understand it after 6 years

rod03801: I'm in the US as well. I understand what you, Pedro and Imsoaddicted & (V) are saying.
When I see red numbers counting down on games, I tend to go to the players profile & check for vacation days, week-ends, auto, etc. especially before I mention it to anyone.
Thank you.....I'll just sit back & wait patiently.

alilsassy: You need to remember, that the day starts at midnite Czech time. I'm not positive where you are, but here in the Eastern U.S. the "new day" starts at 6pm.

I believe Pedro and Imsoaddicted are correct as well. It is her last vacation day. Her vacation days remaining probably turned to zero at 6pm eastern yesterday (which would explain why you say it has been "two" days). I would imagine at 6pm eastern, she will start timing out.

AbigailII: Thank you for understanding. I was beginning to think I wasn't comprehending the time out guide lines. I'll watch a lil' closer today & see if things work itself out.