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23. července 2003, 08:59:35
danoschek 
Subjekt: Liquid Dreams ... ;)
I bet you will stroke them carefully as first approach ... :D

A few weeks ago during a messy BK-day with timeouts for me,
I sent Fencer already a catalogue instead of a complaint ... hehehe !

Looking forward to visiting Praha, the first modern town in Europe
- and using the same currency that is accepted in Paris as well ...

the future will bring a new bb-net-axis
Berlin-Prague-Vienna-Budapest I'm sure ... :) ~*~

23. července 2003, 08:38:37
Liquid 
Subjekt: Re: A load balancer is essential indeed imho, for a game site
Yeah, i would lilke to have two servers of dual Xeon 3,06 GHz for loadbalancing.

23. července 2003, 08:28:35
Fencer 
Subjekt: Re: A load balancer is essential indeed imho, for a game site
Right, I am looking forward to the year when EUR replaces CZK, I don't like exchange rates ;-)

23. července 2003, 08:08:28
danoschek 
Subjekt: A load balancer is essential indeed imho, for a game site
10-12 grands seems to be not too optimistic to get it into dry blankets.

e.g. Dell lowered the prices and the Euro is strong. *grin*

make it 15,000 and two twin-xeon2.8 are in reach ... :") ~*~

23. července 2003, 08:01:12
Fencer 
Uil: Just to make some estimation, $10000. That would be a good start. Maybe two machines could be purchased for this price, to make the site more stable [server cluster, load balancing, ...].

23. července 2003, 00:30:46
Radiant2008 :-) 
Subjekt: Re: You go, UIL!!!
Yes, I am :-)))

You can read my profile.. its a bit like a novel, but I assure you, you can read where I am original from ;o)

23. července 2003, 00:26:28
Uil 
Subjekt: Re: You go, UIL!!!
are you from Dutch origin??????

23. července 2003, 00:24:06
Liquid 
Subjekt: Re: Oslo
Oslo is gret, i have been there 10 days ago. :-) But servers must be near to me, to Fencer.

23. července 2003, 00:23:15
Radiant2008 :-) 
Subjekt: You go, UIL!!!
Succes!! :-)

en je weet het, hč.. niet over twee nachten ijs :-)

Sorry, guys.. i told him to confirm everything extra good with everybody :-)

23. července 2003, 00:21:12
Purple 
Subjekt: alt246 Capital O
²¢½O ²¢½O²¢½ ²O¢¼ anyone own a webtv? Uh..would you like to buy mine? ²²²¢½O

23. července 2003, 00:19:57
Radiant2008 :-) 
Subjekt: Re: WoW UIL :-)
???

You mean, I mustn´t change my flag yčt?? lol - think you ehmm, made a typo there.... L;)L

maar dat is niet zo erg; het is al na middernacht in Nederland :-)

23. července 2003, 00:15:47
Uil 
Subjekt: Re: Mr van Oostrum
other answer: I am 51, so 30 or 40 years is all I need for a free "rookship"

23. července 2003, 00:15:10
danoschek 
Subjekt: Uil
stop what ?? wishing good luck ? you lost me ~*~

23. července 2003, 00:14:33
Radiant2008 :-) 
What about Paris?? ;o)

23. července 2003, 00:13:54
Uil 
Subjekt: Re: WoW UIL :-)
Stop it Danoschek, I am not sure he will do this!
He has to believe in this site before he put any money into it. I know Jeroen Piket, a formally top chess player and now his right hand, so I can give it a try!!

23. července 2003, 00:10:53
Andersp 
Could it be Oslo?

23. července 2003, 00:09:25
danoschek 
Subjekt: Re: europe.net
I'm not sure ... Hamburg is internet-service capital of germany,
but I guess Frankfurt as center of the Telekom world
is better featured, most likely the dutch metropole also ...
not to mention 'Siemens' Munich ... hehehe !

have you investigated or are you just teasing back ? :P ~*~

23. července 2003, 00:09:22
Uil 
Subjekt: Re:
Fencer, still no real answer, for example i asked about the price

23. července 2003, 00:04:05
Liquid 
Subjekt: Re: stormy bernice
About bandwidth. You are right, Czech Republic is not the center of europe.net but BK using about 1% of our available bandwidth.

And may i have e questin? Where is center of europe.net??? :-))

22. července 2003, 23:54:30
danoschek 
Subjekt: Mr van Oostrum
Now that sounds like a word ! Good Luck !! :)

lifetime errrrm how old are you Uil ? 0:) - okay, just teasing ... ;) ... ~*~

22. července 2003, 23:52:49
Radiant2008 :-) 
Subjekt: WoW UIL :-)
You mean, the server-issue will be solved and taken care of by a fellow Dutch man! I really need to consider to change my flag into that one of my Home-Country!!

Hartstikke goed, joh!! :-)

(btw: normally I am not thAt nationalistic; only when our Dutch National Skate team wins another WorldChampionShip on their high-speed skates.. lol)

Wish this server high-speed s:):)n as well..

22. července 2003, 23:49:16
danoschek 
Subjekt: stormy bernice
that's a capital ö - different code of course ...

and maybe you should get over torturing your brain
over the life other people have and put it to Sergeant Chat.
(it's degraded since long, to pre-emptively catch yet another post)

I appreciate that Fencer does not make fullmouth promises
(certainly a new server will cast new problems at the beginning)

The Czech Republic is not the center of europe.net
- bandwidth problems are likely to be expected for a while yet.

But about only 100 players simultaneous as edge of capacity
really have to be overcome if it is supposed to work out ~*~

22. července 2003, 23:44:23
Fencer 
Uil: That sounds like a really good deal.

22. července 2003, 23:38:45
Uil 
Subjekt: Re:
Fencer, what I want to hear is an answer on my idea a few weeks ago of giving a life time rook membership to the one who can arrange a new server for free by contacting his connections!
For example the FIDE (World Chess Federation) or Mr. van Oostrum (sponsoring chess tournament for much more money) might be interested to do so, but i did not get any answer! Do you really want your new server?

22. července 2003, 23:37:09
Bernice 
on my key board it is ALT 665 Ö
and yesterday all day i kept getting
HTTP error...505 internal server error
i couldnt log on at all from midmorning till close of play at about 5.30pm
Why do people make suggestions and then get shot down because of it?
You either donate or you dont.....end of story...there is no need to "blow your own trumpet" over donating..
Get a life and get over it.
Fencer will no doubt get it sorted in time, and I know it is annoying, but there is nothing any of us can do...so lets just let him get on with it in peace :)

22. července 2003, 23:16:54
Purple 
²¢½ ²¢½ I am indebbted to you Herr Grubbe

22. července 2003, 23:13:56
Andersp 
use the alt-button to the left of the space bar...better end this "education" here :)

22. července 2003, 23:06:24
Purple 
alt246 there!!!!!! nothing happened

22. července 2003, 22:57:44
Andersp 
LOL Chief..have no experience in Web-TV..but on this american keyboard you make an ö as i told you...nonsense or not :)

22. července 2003, 22:55:30
Purple 
Subjekt: Re:
Nonsense Grubbe. My hi school German teacher assured me my spelling was fine..just before they let her go for dyslexia. (my webtv has a hard enough time with apostrophies let alone O with a little hat on it) lol

22. července 2003, 22:47:51
Andersp 
Chief KM...alt246 gives you an ö...then you can type Danke Schön :)

22. července 2003, 22:41:00
pyloric valve 
Subjekt: Just two things would help more
Can we get some number of actual users and the frequency of site access by users? This is not a hard thing to do since there is a last action value for each payer. That woudl give us some idea of what we are talkgin abotu in terms of necessary resources.

Also, Have Fencer and Liqui considered open-sourcing their code so that some of us who are programmers by trade could help out when we have time?

22. července 2003, 22:40:49
Fencer 
Okay, what do you want to hear? What happens if we collect the required money, buy a new server and some new problem occurs? Does the people want to be 100% sure that everything will be sorted out and no other problems can suddenly appear?
In order to be honest, I cannot promise anything and I don't want to force anybody to pay.

22. července 2003, 22:31:39
danoschek 
Subjekt: Chief KM
nicht wahr !

but german was counted out long before anyway
... and who out for a real exchange minds spelling ? :D ... ~*~

22. července 2003, 22:29:05
Purple 
Subjekt: Re: <wow that was a great spell ... >:)
danke shoen mein herr

22. července 2003, 22:26:16
danoschek 
Subjekt: <wow that was a great spell ... >:)
<')))>"
no message ~*~

22. července 2003, 22:26:05
Purple 
Subjekt: Re: You are a true careling, M&M ... :D ... Very good idea to get a translator
Dano makes a point. Or two or three. (ein, swie, drie, feir, funf nicht whar?)

22. července 2003, 22:24:58
Andersp 
Both Fencer and Liquid are on line now so Jason and we other can expect the answers soon i suppose

22. července 2003, 22:22:24
blazeinshore 
Subjekt: General Point! Before posting gripes on this board, please
insure you have read the information on the Technical Info page.
The Brainking hardware configuration is weak due to lack of resources; with the now high volume of users, this results in server overload.

Also read the Known Bugs page for information on bugs with the official JDBC driver, Connector/J (driver used to establish connection between application and database servers).

Please give the Fencer and Liquid the time and space they need in order to improve connectivity. These things take time.

Blaze

22. července 2003, 22:21:42
danoschek 
Subjekt: You are a true careling, M&M ... :D ... Very good idea to get a translator
Once I had an uninvited one at brainking but that doesn't belong here ... 0:)

Indeed - jokies besides - everyone cAn figure that during that
particulary messy past week even the more patient folks started
complaining, thus most likely stuffing the inbox of poor Fencer.

I haven't btw as I assumed such exceptionary low site performance
as known doesn't have to be reported furthermore and certainly
is bugging nobody more than our webmaster ...

Timeouts are suspended, that's the core for me as serious player.

Extending the paid membership by that week would be greatly appreciated.

Fencer has always replied to any request by me.
1500 complaints assumed during the past couple of days
it needs not much arithmetics to calculate the required time.

Chill peeps.

Remains to wish best luck to Liquid now that the hardware does
not become his very personal screwdriver ... hehehe ! I mean it. ~*~

22. července 2003, 22:05:05
MadMonkey 
I don't know if anyone else has noticed (im sure some have) but Fencer has not been on here since yesterday lunchtime.
If he has not tried to do himself in over all this moaning, i for one think he deserves a break after 8 months of trying to keep this site running & being on here nearly all the time the last 2 weeks while Liquid has been on away.
I have just written to Liquid (through a 3rd party as he can not speak English) to see if he can answer any of the questions below.

22. července 2003, 21:49:40
Andersp 
Exactly what i said Harley..they have no news (answers) which must mean that they dont know if they need a new server (and money)..or what else the problem with this site is.
The site hasnt been better at all..not in PA anyway.

Took me about 1 minute to type this, im sure Fencer types as fast as i do :)

22. července 2003, 21:42:18
harley 
I don't believe it is ignorance. Fencer replies when he can, when he has some news.
I trust the site and the owners implicitly. They are working very hard to get the site stable (it is definitely better today than it has been the last few days) and they have to have a break, and also do their normal 'paid' work, not to mention sleep and spend time with their families. This is a new site, and is bound to have teething troubles.
As for ignorance, well, if Fencer or Liquid tried to reply to every message they would never be away from here, or able to spend time fixing the problems. Nobody is asking for blind faith, we have been informed they are working on the problem. Now it is just a matter of time.

22. července 2003, 21:14:16
Andersp 
Subjekt: Re: fencer & rose
Can only agree again Jason. Its very ignorant that none of the owners is answering, probably because they have no answers to give?..Regarding pay: Ive paid $28 in march and will pay O (Zero) more cents until i trust this site and their owners better.

22. července 2003, 18:50:02
Dmitri King 
Subjekt: Re: fencer & rose
Regarding hwat Jason has been saying-- I am not clear on ho exactly a new server will solve the problem.

22. července 2003, 18:41:29
Jason 
Subjekt: Re: fencer & rose
gubbe , im stopping no one from paying more money , im just wanting to know if sending money will sort the problem ..... but no one is answering !!!!
i have already supported this site by buying two memberships for other people and will be buying two more for presents very shortly

22. července 2003, 16:52:00
Rose 
Subjekt: Re: fencer & rose
If Fencer had time I think it would be very beneficial to let us know how much has been raised and how much is still needed. Hence the meaning of the word "drive" as in to keep raising the money needed.
I can only do as the rest of you and wait to hear on Fencer on this one....

22. července 2003, 16:21:10
Andersp 
Subjekt: Re: fencer & rose
Jason, i can see your point and to me too it seems that noone really knows why this site doesnt work...many suggestions have been said on these messageboards from more or less smart players..no names :).. But if some people feel/sleep better if they send money to Fencer why try to stop them?

22. července 2003, 13:27:09
Eriisa 
This is from the info page.
18th July 2003
I apologize for the site bad activity. Our database server is awfully overloaded, we expect to have it fixed within a day or two. All timeouted games will be restored on players' demand, of course.

22. července 2003, 11:40:29
Jason 
Subjekt: Re: fencer & rose
maybe rose can answer this , fencer hasnt answerd my last two mails on here .
will a new server sort this problems of access to the site ???
in my opinion it wont but im waiting for an expert to correct me
quate from fencer (Moreover, I cannot guarantee that after adding another machine BrainKing will never crash again. I really plan to buy a new server and I hope that it will solve problem - but I am not [and I cannot be] absolutely sure. I have to test it but I cannot ask other people to buy the hardware just for "testing". It would not be fair to them.)
so how come your asking people to part with money when no-one seems to know anything

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