Justaminute: I guess none of us knows the cost of maintaining the site and how much is leftover as a profit for Fencer. I guess he would have to weigh in on our discussions. However, sadly he is silent up to this point. That just goes back to one of my original points if I were to continue to support the site, I would wish the owner of the site to be committed to me as a consumer to keep the site evolving and growing. without the consumers there is no game site. We have discussed how to afford this site, but it comes down to one thing, what does the top dog think and is he willing to make the site a high priority. I guess we wait for his response.

Brian1971: tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.

Bernice: "Do not use a cannon to kill a mosquito" ;)

ThunderGr:

Nuke 'em !!

Bernice: I think he doesn't answer because this discussion comes up about every six month, with the same arguments and points each time, and after the hundredth time there is really nothing to add from his side. Or maybe he is just enjoying Christmas with his family.

Brian1971: Brian I understand your frustrations but I think you are expecting too much from this site. I know you do not have good health and spend a lot of time in here. But as far as most games sites go I think this one is the best in all ways. I would rather pay a membership than have limitations which would frustrate me. So do you think you are "cutting of your nose of to spite your face" by not renewing your membership? I was going to offer to pay for your membership next year when it runs out as I know you are on a limited budget. So come on folks let try and understand Brains frustrations.

crosseyed: Thanks for considering me crosseyed. However I am sure I am doing what is best for me. Besides I will still play here for free as I do not want to lose the friends I have gained here. I am available on facebook and play games on facebook too. Just send me a private message and I would be willing to become your facebook friend.

I am done fighting about this subject folks. I made my views known and have made my decision as it is clear that Fencer has made his. The site is going to remain status quo as he does not want to do anything else with it for now. Perhaps in the future he will change his mind and do more. If he does, I will then look into paying for a new membership. This discussion has taken an ugly tone. I am sorry to anyone who I may have offended as that was not the basis for my contention. However it goes to show the passion that the players here have for this site. All in all that in not a bad thing. Before I started playing here in November 2004, I played at itsyourturn.com and there was a bad vibe there at the time and through messages I read, i decided to try it out and have been here since. I hope in the near future there is some sort of balance to please those who are content with things the way they are and those who want some new features. God Bless everyone and happy new year.

Brian1971: Brian don't rush into anything just yet. Sleep on it so to speak. I used to play in IYT years ago and there was a lot of ill feeling in the discussion boards. I left the site and then I registered with Brainking. I have since gone back to IYT and apart from the discussion boards have disappeared there has been no change in the site. In fact I think it so dated. So you have to admit this site beats most other sitse in everyway.
I an serious about paying for your membership and ask that re- think about how you are feeling about things at present. I would rather see you in here as a paid member in 2016.

crosseyed: Again thanks for the offer. In the new year I have lots of stuff to do to try to fix my health issues if possible. I am seeing 2 specialists in January for an ultrasound blood flow exam and another for kidney trauma. Most likely getting a toe amputation early in the year as well. I am also taking on a church council spot in February and I will be the financial secretary. So I will have plenty help fill the void of not being a member in 2016. There are more important things than brainking. I lost sight of this temporarily. So things are good.

Brian1971: Okay if you say you have new things to deal with next year including health issues. So I have to respect your decision. But you won't lose face with me if you should decide to take my offer up of staying in Brainking as a paid member. I know I hate being limited in games sites if I am not a paid member.