Hrqls: Already using the minimal and until tonight no difference. Even stopped my external style to try to minimize the hops between me and server! Doing everything I can to minimize site. Finally tonight after how long??? I get some decent load to play my games.

Well blow me down with a feather. This site is actually running at a halfway decent speed. Still not as good as it used to be but.........................206 players online. 11.07pm DST (Daylight Savings Time) in the Land Down Under (Australia for those you who don't know).

And of course still no answer to my very polite question. There was mention of Liquid downloading stats before and that was slowing the site. Could that have been a problem recently???

pauloaguia: 5 messages????? Some of my boards have up to 40 or more messages. You want me to reload 8 times just to read my favourite boards? I have 50 per page. I used to have 100 per page but I cut it in half due to the site being slow.

And as long as you and your brother understand "IT IS NOT A BK PROBLEM" It is nothing to do with BK and it must be your server! OK

or2ak.com: No I haven't bought the system mechanic yet. An issue of funds and conversion rates etc. It probably is worth it but I would much prefer to be able to buy it from my own country. Will keep searching and see what I can turn up.

Jim Dandy: Me too. I have been coming in here and only playing enough moves to save me from time out. I shut up over the last couple of days on boards because they take too long to load and the frustration is just not worth it. I got better things to do with my time than wait for a game to load. But I agreed to the challenge of a game with my opponent and don't want to let them down.

As for the future..............time will only tell!

Uninvited: No-one has posted because they are all finally resigned to crawling through their games at a snails pace. Why bother asking for something to be done when time and again the request is ignored. The site is still running slow for me and others I have spoken to as well but there seems absolutely no point in talking about it anymore.

I have one question for Fencer though. It was talked about a while ago that the site slowed down when Liquid was collecting data. Is there a possibility that this has happened again?

Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou. So many of you have stepped forward today and yesterday and let us know we are not the "certain user" minority.

I agree with the point about rewarding positive customers. I can understand why you would think that I was one of the more negative but I must tell you that it was Fencer himself who brought out the negativity. I (an Australian with English as her first and only language) saw what I thought was a very simple post about the site speed. It was responded to by the site owner in a negative fashion. Misery loves company.............well negativity breeds contempt. I had no idea there were other issues between the site owner and the poster of the message and the site owner chose to use this board to attack. And ever since then I have had a negative set against the site owner. I feel he is rude, arrogant and disrespectful and he agrees with me when he tells the whole site that one user deserves no respect. Her money earned her the simple respect of a paying customer. I would like a general apology from the site owner. We are not the trolls. You troll this site for "certain users" comments to respond to in a rude and disrespectful fashion.

I have tried to find supportive and positive ways to help fix the current problems but until the site owner admits that it is not just a bunch of whingers making up stuff to complain about then I don't think anything will be resolved.

jryden: Oh please I just can't take anymore Chicken spanking!

or2ak.com: Thanks. Will have to see if I can find an Australian equivalent.

Bernice: Well it is actually running fairly well for me at the moment. We will see how long that lasts though.

PS. I didn't do it!!! It wasn't me!!! ROFL.

I just turned off my external style and my hops which were over 30 last time have reduced to Time Out at #24. Fingers crossed that this might improve the speed a bit. 

or2ak.com: Thankyou. Another couple of helpful suggestions that we can try.

I have never heard of defragging RAM. Could you tell us computer dummies how to do it please?

Another thought I just had was to compare if the people who are running slow are using external styles. I am going to turn mine off to see if the tracert gets a more direct route without that.

And Fencer, a suggestion. Sticky posts on boards. So that when people come in the first thing they read is the helpful posts on clearing and speeding up the site. I know there are good ones from coan.net about stripping back your BK settings and Gordon Shumway posted about cache size and settings and this most recent one from or2ak is another good one. Other discussion boards have sticky posts. It may save you some grief.

or2ak.com: You don't see any new people complaining because everyone else has seen how you get treated if you say something on this board about the slowness and they don't want to risk raising the ire of the site owner.

And we keep coming back here because this used to be our favourite game site and we keep hoping in vain for a return to the days when it was good and fast and the site owner seemed like a nice guy. I can't play Frog Finder anywhere else and I just want the site to work so I can enjoy my favourite game.

And PS. Most of my complaints recently have been about the way people have been treated on this board. Not about the connectivity. That only comes into it because the abuse dished out is to people who mention the connectivity.

Quote Ewe: All this moaning will make you old & grey way before your time. Relax, enjoy & be nice...much more enjoyable

Well said. My main reason for speaking out is to denounce the rude replies and outright disrespect that is a constant on this board from the site owner. Silence condones the act. I will not stay silent.

Jason: In the mood I'm in I could say a lot of things in response to that. I choose to take it as a joke and say............

rabbitoid: Removed as requested.

Hrqls: Thankyou. Now I understand. I missed the point of the book discussion being off topic as I read it to still be about the moderators. I do see your point though.

Fencer: And PS. Don't be a hypocrite. If you want me to try something new next time how about you try it too instead of your ******** one liners.

Might be something new if you actually answered the question. What is off topic about the subject?

Fencer: Yes very unoriginal of me to ask a question!

As we all know that questions go unanswered or are replied to with snide comments from you or threats of removal by the mods.

Off topic?

I fail to see how a discussion about the functionality of the site is off topic.

Brainking isn't running so well lately. It's Structure is failing in the eyes of quite a few members. It's Features are unviewable a lot of the time. We are refused access to it's features on a regular basis. And my personal view of it's features is that there are too many. It needs to be stripped back. Please do not feature any more red numbers until I can view the features that have been offered before and are hard to use because of lack of functionality.

And last but not least. From the tone of this board recently the Future of Brainking isn't looking so hot! I do believe the suggestion is that it's future will be a lot less solvent.

And I believe that discussion of moderators and global moderators comes under the heading of either Structure as they are an integral part of the smooth running of this site or they are a Feature of this site to be seen on every board.

So someone please tell me where the off topic is??????

Eriisa: I had 30 hops and got stuck in New York for an extra bit of time. It took more than a full second to trace thru the second New York server.

Gordon Shumway: I know that nothing I say is going to hold any weight because I don't

Cheeky, rude, disrespectful, baiting.......etc. I am only following the example set by the site owner.

BTW: Thanks for the tip. I will check my settings.

srnity: I can tell you how to get on the "certain users" list!

Filip doesn't "Feed the Trolls" he is a troll himself. He never fails to troll through this site for "certain user" posts to respond to.

If the i brainking is taking so long to load doesn't that suggest that maybe there are too many images?

When people from both groups ie: "certain users" and "not you "  are saying the same thing then it would suggest that something needs to be checked somewhere and abuse of the "certain users" groups does not negate the fact that the "not you " group is having the same problems with this site.

Vikings: Now I'm scared! Is he going to unleash h*ll on this site? Or am I just freaking out because my son got Gremlins 1 and 2 for christmas and has been watching them over and over for the past couple of days? Hehehehe.

Vikings: So are the pictures of the little devils supposed to be some clue? I could say a few things about where those blighters live and this site in the same sentence but I would only get in trouble!

Bernice:

I found this picture of me only I hope when he installed me in the tower he gave me a instead of the club! Hehehe

Bernice: Dang does that mean I have to log out and wait for that silly beast to stretch my page again and blow a few fireballs to see if there is really is a princess. I wonder if she looks just like me???? LOL

Fencer: Here as well. After 10am already.

So still no hints on what it is exactly?

Things I found this morning that I hadn't noticed before.

General settings page. "Send me an occasional Brainking Newsletter" already checked by default.

Calendar page. A link to the "User Agreement"

Could either one of these possibly be "IT"?

Bernice: Love the diamonds girly. Christmas pressy?

And as to the subject of discussion.........I didn't even bother asking to have my time out games reinstated after the clinical death because I am so "over" this site. Enough with breakdowns, shutdowns and slowdowns. I would love a return to the game site I joined a couple of years ago where it was fun to come and play instead of being weighted down with little red numbers and fancy crap I never imagined let alone thought I might want or need.


PS. I wish my cursor would turn into a shining sword of steel so I could rid myself of the beast for good!

And now it is at Brainking.info as well.

furbster:Check out the fellowships board. That is where they talking bout it.

http://brainking.com/en/Board?bc=24

alanback:

Snoopy: And these things need to be tried out. As I said with the current feeling on BK at the moment, releasing a new thing that doesn't work would only cause more problems.

I think Andersp idea of a testing f/s is a good one. I would be part of that to try out things and work out bugs and help tweak the games to make them right before they are realeased

Andersp: I am not one of Fencer's Testers. In fact just the other day I was a "certain user".

Your idea has merit though. Because I thought of exactly the same thing.

Snoopy: We know GOD and he gave us the down low on upcoming creations!

Snoopy: I'm sure if you had done what Nirvana and I both did, ie PM Mad Monkey, he would have told you the exact same thing he told us. It doesn't work yet but here's how to do it anyway.

Snoopy: Please stop shouting.

This random team was found by accident when Mad Monkey was doing a completely different thing.

He started his team as an experiment to see what would happen.

Nirvana and I both found the concept interesting so we PM'd Mad Monkey to ask about it.

Mad Monkey and I set up a team to see if the challenge would even start yet. As you know by reading the original message that has caused all this drama, nothing has happened with that challenge as yet.

My message to Mad Monkey on the subject was to leave it and wait and see. All great things come from trial and error. If we have it ready to go we can test it and let Fencer know of any bugs etc so that he can release it to the paying members in good order and without a lot of bugs etc.

I'm sorry that you find our experiments so detrimental to the other f/s but I think releasing an untested, untried new thing on the site at the moment would be a lot more detrimental, not only to your f/s but also to the site as a whole. With the recent upset over BK being down quite a lot a new thing that doesn't work properly wouldn't go down very well with the frustrated paying customer.

rednaz23: Well I just counted while waiting for this page to load and I counted a full 6 seconds for that side to load. (It didn't need to load any red numbers but I do have 5 friends online at the moment.

It is frustrating because you can't start to work with the page until that column has loaded because it kicks the page sideways. Several times I have gotten ahead of the load and then it kicked on me and I clicked the wrong thing and had to go back and re-do what I was intending as well as fix the wrong thing I clicked! I have put the suggestion in this board but I will add a formal request in the Features board.

Snoopy: I don't know either. But after that last addition I have wait an extra bit for that column to load.

And just a note. The site has been working fine for me over the last few days.

Still annoyed about the delayed load on the right hand column after the last "upgrade" (I think the numbers after Friends Online was a nonsense piece of addition that no-one really needed but that is just my opinion)

But apart from that I have just managed to get through all of my games. I haven't seen a 0 in my game list for quite a while and it is rather pleasing to me!

Foxy Lady: Chill chicky. It was a joke! Relax and have a laugh.

Dolittle: You can't delete the main things that appear in the second column on the main page.

I believe it would be possible to have the option to turn these things off because you can turn off "Tip of the Day" and "Tournament Tips" (which I have done) but we haven't been offered the option to turn off Friends Online or Favourite Boards or Fellowships. (I may be wrong because I am not a computer programmer)

I find that after this last addition that right hand column is taking much longer to load for me and it is also a distraction which I don't like.

If I had a choice I would turn off the lists for Friends Online and Fellowships and only have the Time and Date and my Favourite Boards displayed in the second column.

I can see if my friends are online by green dots on my main page or at the Friends page or by using the Filter and I can access all of my Fellowships in my Profile or on the Fellowships page. I don't feel the need for 4 different ways to access one item on this site.

Is there any way to turn off the little red numbers that have just been added to our friends online list? At a quick glance I go to click on them mistaking them for new messages in my favourite boards.

I thought the filter was fine to use if I wanted to see how many games I had with my friends. I really don't need those new little red numbers and would like to turn them off please.

Jason: Awww that's cute. Good idea too.

Christoph Daum: So is it appropriate to come in here and offer to answer questions and then when asked a valid question suggest that the person is unintelligent and constantly annoying while filling posts with wink wink smilies .?

That is what brought out my sarcasm Christoph. I didn't appreciate the way the man who took my money was speaking to other paying customers so I spoke up to let him know of my discontent. Now I am being vilified by members like you who seem to think that personal bias and unhelpful comments are quite ok.

Read thru all of the posts and try to forget your bias. If you are going to ask people to stop being rude then you best ask Fencer to stop first.

Jules: I don't think people have the expectation that he should drop everything and answer each question individually. The problem is that he mostly gives no information at all or as seen in my case earlier (Keep Trying) he gives totally inane responses that are so unhelpful they become frustrating.

If he posted a short succinct explanation that probably took him 30 seconds to compose and post then most people would be ok and he wouldn't have to deal with the so called "constant annoying complaints". And if there was the occasional complaint after his post I am sure others who had already read his explanation would update those who missed it therefore leaving him available to do what he needs to do.

Hrqls: Well my feeling is that so many people post the notice in the hope that many voices will be heard because lately it feels like no-one is being heard. The service for the site over the past few weeks has been absolutely terrible and people don't know from one day to the next if they are going to be able to access the site or not.

And as for insults and attacks and non-destructive messages then you best aim your comments at one of the worst offenders. Someone comes in to offer a little positive feedback and he still can't resist a dig in response.

I say again. Pot calling the kettle black!

Jules: Well I am still trying to work out which one's are the annoying complaints and which aren't. Recently all the complaints have been the same. Site crash follows crash follows slow load after no load. They are all exactly the same. So why is it annoying when one person says it and yet not annoying when another says exactly the same thing. And why get so indignant and sarcastic with people when all they want is a valid explanation???