anastasia: I have personally been to Vietnam, the same anti war hippies said all the same things about that war as they are saying about Iraq, I have spoken to many many people in Vietnam and I never spoke to one person who was against what we tried to do there, and these are people who lost family members and people who were themselves jailed and tortured for many decades because of what we tried to do there! The only regrets these people had were that we pulled out of that fight and left them without finishing what we started!

I have no reason to believe Iraq will be any different, the worst thing we can do now is leave them before the job is finished, and in 20 or 30 years from now the future generations will only have thanks for our efforts and they will wonder why the rest of the world was not there to help!

Who was it? Roosevelt who left office with a terrible approval rating and now many decades later history shows him to be one of our greatest presidents ever! I believe history will treat Bush much the same way too!

Tuesday: LOL, I dont see you complaining about being one of the survivors whos life is better because other people were killed in the name of your freedom?

What about our civil war???? What about Hitler??? The only reason you enjoy the life you have today is because somebody else life was destroyed!

Just because you dont see it doesnt mean there werent people screaming and crying in the streets when people were dying to give you your life?

Just like you would give your life to save the life of your child, its the ultimate sacrifice, and yes it sucks, but it is ignorant to believe that it is wrong to sacrifice some life for the greater good of the lives of others

Take the example of a hostage situation... it is common and accepted practice to risk the lives of some of the innocent hostages in order to save the lives of some, and end the crisis. Yes, you will see some family members screaming and crying when they learn that it was their loved ones who were the unfortunate killed in the rescue attempt, but that has never stopped us from having a policy to attempt rescues in those situations!

Thats how I see Iraq, the people there were being held hostage by Saddam and his regime, they needed outside help to end that crisis, and some of them were at risk of dying in the process of liberating the many and for the overall good for future generations!

Artful Dodger: How... they are killing innocent civilians. It comes from firing at 'military' targets in a dense population zone. No missile can distinguish between civilian and military.. it just goes to it's designated target (or nearby) and blows up.... BANG!!!

.. people die.

so you say you slept thru 2008, no problem, click here
http://www.unclejayexplains.com/media/UJ%2012-22-08.wmv

Tuesday: I just finished watching (yesterday) the movie "The Pianist"....it was about the Warsaw Jews.....sad movie

tazman7474: It irritates the crap outta me when you drive by in the morning and it is one price,drive by 2 hours later and it is up 20 cents...they're workin off the SAME tanks of gas they were 2 hours ago! please

Artful Dodger: It just seemed pretty fishy to me that the prices dropped that fast!

Artful Dodger: this board would be really boring if we all agreed,lol

Tuesday: ask the jews and the polish that question about wwII

Vikings: their lives aren't being destroyed...why don't you go take apoll over there and ask the ones who have had family members killed,lost the only home they have ever known if their lives are being destroyed...They are being liberated...but at what cost??

tazman7474: Oil prices are down due to world demand being down as a result of the economy, they were dropping before the election starting with Bushes declaration to the end of the executive order on the drilling ban

How about a new slant on here? Back in August, I was paying $4.25 a gallon for gas. Now it's down to $1.80, could that have anything to do with the new president NOT having ties to the oil companies?

Tuesday: their lives aren't being destroyed, that is a liberal media slant, they are being liberated now without fear of retribution for innocent actions as they were before, but that won't be reported until the end of janruary,

Tuesday: Gravy in the spaghetti? That must be another one of those Ozarks things, kind of like fried bologna sandwiches *1*

Tuesday: no it is not, Bagdad is under control of the Iraqi's, their crime rate is lower than chicago's,

Tuesday: at least Bush won't be in office to much longer to make anymore of his ignorant jokes about the war over their...

Artful Dodger: now who is putting words in peoples mouths?? I didn't think she implied that at all...a bit touchy,are ya?? so...let me get this straight...YOUR words..."but you said that even though he was doing good in Africa, he was also destroying homes in other countries. That's not accurate" ok,so it's NOT accurate that he is destroying homes...BUT you also say in the same post..... People killed, property destroyed. That is true. These things have happened. ummmm,NOW I am confussed..... "Israel is killing innocent civilians. It's inaccurate." so the lil 12 year old boy,or however old he was that I just saw on the news that was KILLED...he was not an innocent civilian???

Tuesday: Did you see the hundreds of thousands of people being murdered and maimed before we went in?

Murder rate in Bagdad is now lower than Chicago

Artful Dodger: she never said that he went for the SOLE PURPOSE of destroying homes

Oh please.... not another Bush in the white house.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090104/ap_on_go_pr_wh/another_president_bush

The problem with Blagojevich is that I believe he was planning on bigger and better things (like a President run at some point), so this "scandal" has really thrown a wrench into his plans.

Of course I don't think bigger and better things are possible, but by resigning or running away, it will make him look guilty and will most defiantly be little chance of him moving on to bigger & better things - and the only hope (small one now) that he has is to deny & fight back.

Jim Dandy: ROTFLMAO!!!!

Artful Dodger: Not only was he one of your best Presidents,he appreciated a good cigar,a mans man

Tuesday: Karma came around on Richardson for throwing the Clintons under the bus.

Tuesday: who knows....she just dissapeared, saying she couldn't get the internet where she is or something like that, but no doubt a certain person will put us all straight LOL...can't mention names on a public board, hahahaha

Tuesday: I was meaning AD.....using the word "BLACK".....SHE REPORTED ME TO THE GLOBS ONCE FOR IT, WHEN i WAS REFERRING TO THE nz FOOTBALL TEAM.... They are called the "all blacks"....oops caps LOL she was paranoid about colour ROFL

Artful Dodger: arent you lucky that Srnity isnt here any longer......she would be up you like a rat up a drain pipe LOL...talking about "blacks" like that