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21. září 2010, 04:02:10
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Here is a far left nut that lectures Americans on bad eathing habits
rod03801: The strategy is to put out the racist charge enough and hope it sticks.

21. září 2010, 02:49:42
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Here is a far left nut that lectures Americans on bad eathing habits
rod03801: I don't think it's been happening on this board but it clearly does "out there." I posted a while back that race would be used by the left to vilify and marginalize the opposition. I could easily post many examples of this very thing happening from the left.

21. září 2010, 01:52:36
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Here is a far left nut that lectures Americans on bad eathing habits
Tuesday: examples please

21. září 2010, 00:52:42
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Here is a far left nut that lectures Americans on bad eathing habits
Tuesday: Wanna bet? Tell you what. YOu come up with examples of those on the right telling people how to eat etc and show examples of the Right using the race card and I'll do the same for the Left. we'll compare

I'll win

20. září 2010, 23:00:17
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Aye
V: "Aye"

aye? what are you, a pirate now?


20. září 2010, 20:22:22
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Here is a far left nut that lectures Americans on bad eathing habits
Tuesday: Exactly. Those on the left telling people how to eat and it's also the left that is currently playing the race card over and over again.

20. září 2010, 05:45:22
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Here is a far left nut that lectures Americans on bad eathing habits


does he know how to spell obese?

19. září 2010, 05:53:31
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: I knew it!@

18. září 2010, 20:26:51
Papa Zoom 

18. září 2010, 17:56:07
Papa Zoom 
Michael Moore: McDonald's at Ground Zero Killed More People Than 9/11 Hijackers
from NewsBusters.org - Exposing Liberal Media Bias by Noel Sheppard

Schlockumentary film producer Michael Moore on Friday said the McDonald's that's two blocks from Ground Zero killed more people than the nineteen hijackers involved in the 9/11 attacks.

Don't you love it when folks that are so overweight they're probably considered obese point fingers at others for their poor eating habits?

Honestly, does this look like a man that should be making McDonald's jokes:

http://media.eyeblast.org/newsbusters/static/2010/09/Moore.jpg

Michael, people who live in pants the size of tents shouldn't throw Big Macs!

18. září 2010, 17:22:16
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: In November, there will be Congressional Hearings

DoJ investigates itself


<span>Clarice Feldman




Reviewing
the Department's handling of the Black Panther case and the news that
the IG is looking into the work of the Civil Rights Division, Jennifer
Rubin, writing in the Weekly Standard concludes:

[D]espite
the Obama team's best efforts to stonewall and the mainstream media's
indifference to an abuse of power in a Democratic administration, the
notion that the New Black Panther party case is "no big deal" is
crumbling. We know that a high ranking political appointee presented
misleading testimony under oath and that multiple witnesses would
testify to the Obama administration's hostility to the equal enforcement
of our civil rights laws. Now an internal investigation is exploring
those issues. In a Republican administration that would be front-page
news.


18. září 2010, 17:19:01
Papa Zoom 
Many believe that a bipartisan majority would approve the
across-the-board approach today if Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader
Harry Reid (D, NV) would permit a vote.  It ought to come quickly,
before the November elections, so voters will know where everyone
stands.  And our economy could get some much-needed good news.


But

we won't see this happen because the lying libs want to create a crisis and blame it on the Conservatives.  Why?  They want votes.  That's their plan.  They are going to lose big in November so they want to minimize losses.  And they don't care that you will get hurt in the process.

18. září 2010, 17:16:33
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Here's a Dem that understood

18. září 2010, 17:15:51
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Facts are a stubborn thing
But the lying left will spin away from this one anyway:

The
top 10 percent of earners already pay 71 percent of federal income
taxes; the top 1 percent of earners carry 40 percent of the burden.

If anyone isn’t bearing their fair share, it’s certainly not them. 
Trying to make the wealthy bear an even larger burden than they do now
will hurt the entire economy.

18. září 2010, 17:14:39
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Another fact lemming libs will ignore
Like it or not, those who can spend more freely provide a wealth of jobs
for everyone else.  Punishing them ends up punishing blue-collar
people.  The classic example was the 1990 luxury tax imposed on jewelry,
yachts, private planes and more.  Congress repealed it after thousands
of layoffs occurred in those industries and the added unemployment costs
exceeded the luxury tax revenue.



18. září 2010, 17:12:57
Papa Zoom 
Obama wants to bring down the rich (those that create jobs) simply because it can make him look good.  He knows this will hurt the economy and will stop job creation in its tracks.  But he doesn't care.  Obama's plan is simple:  Expand the power of the Federal government and micro manage all aspects of American life.  Liberals are lemmings.  They just follow him off the cliff because that's what lemmings do.  

18. září 2010, 17:10:05
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Liberals: wake up to reality. The rich provide the jobs you need.
Obama’s selective approach hurts the very group that creates the jobs we
need; the entrepreneurs who are holding back from expanding and
creating jobs due to Obama’s impending higher taxes and heavier
regulations; the 5 per cent who are credited with 37 per cent of
consumer spending.  As
The Wall Street Journal reports, “According to new research from
Moody’s Analytics, the top 5% of Americans by income account for 37% of
all consumer outlays.”

18. září 2010, 17:04:58
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: the Jews of Germany in 1929 were called “Fear Mongers”
The problem with the "fear monger" defense the liberals use is that it distorts the truth. While there is ZERO evidence that the Tea Party is racist (actually the evidence is to the contrary, they are very inclusive) the liberals put out the false charge off racism. Why? To create fear and garner votes. It's all about votes to the lying left. They will do anything to get votes. And lying to the people is at the top of their list.

Case in point: Obama. He's nothing but a liar. He campaigned on centrist values. But he governs hard left. He promised transparency. But he makes deals behind closed doors. He promised that passage of Obama Care would NOT cause a rise in health care premiums. On average they have gone up over a thousand dollars a year. He said he would not tax people to pay for Obama Care. But that's exactly what he is NOW saying he will do. There is nothing good about that man as president and the sooner he is neutered, the better for all of us. Where's Jimmy Carter when we need him?

18. září 2010, 06:54:39
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: And that is precisely the problem with liberal thinkers such as yourself
The Col: come on! Bipartisan to democrats is vote our way. This is EXACTLY what Pelosi told the Republicans.

18. září 2010, 06:32:36
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: a far left thinker
Bill Maher: Obama Would Be A Better President 'If He Was Fully Black'
from NewsBusters.org - Exposing Liberal Media Bias by Noel Sheppard

Bill Maher on Friday said that Barack Obama's problem is that he's only half black.

He'd be a better president "if he was fully black."

In the season premiere of "Real Time," while chatting with former Clinton labor secretary Robert Reich, the host said, "Isn't Obama's big problem is that he does everything half-assed? Maybe it's because he's only half black."

Maher continued, "If he was fully black, I'm telling you, he would be a better president."

As if that wasn't enough, "There's a white man in him holding him back because everything is half-assed"

What's really hysterical about this is earlier in the program, Maher accused members of the Tea Party of being racist.

I guess it isn't racist to say there's a white man inside the president holding him back.

On the other hand, just imagine the uproar if Maher said Obama's problem is that he was half white and that "there's a [black] man in him holding him back because everything is half-assed."

It seems a metaphysical certitude the panelists and his audience wouldn't have laughed at that, nor would HBO's management.

In fact, Maher might be looking for a job tomorrow for saying something like that.

Interesting double standard we have today, isn't it?

18. září 2010, 06:24:44
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re:
The Col: And that is precisely the problem with liberal thinkers such as yourself. One would think that with such huge amounts of money, there would be more to start. That's barely a medium size business. And what will liberals like you say when that number stays under a hundred? That's still a million dollars of tax money for only one job.

Historically, lower taxes, smaller government, responsible spending, and a tighter reign on entitlement payments meant more jobs. Obamacare has killed more jobs than the stimulus will create. And Obama is so arrogant that he's talking about spending more? The nation is against him and he ignores it all. He's incompetent and so are your liberal heros that are about to find themselves on the unemployment line.

An unemployed worker can make more on unemployment than they can at an entry level job. So why work? This is absolutely the case. It's why extending unemployment benefits was a bad idea. Unemployed workers have admitted that they won't take a job if they can make more money on unemployment. That's BS. Get two jobs then. And that's exactly what they'd do if they didn't have unemployment to cuddle them through.

It won't matter. There is a landslide coming and Obama will be a lame duck way before his time.

18. září 2010, 03:54:06
Papa Zoom 
There’ll be a party come this November

Where we’re gonna set things straight

All good people gonna gather ‘round

Gonna show what made this country great

We’ll run off the schemers and back-room dealers

So the Red, White and Blue will prevail

When we’re holding the hammer

When we’re holding the hammer

When we’re holding the hammer

Every one of them looks like a nail

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfH46DTAkxo&feature=player_embedded

holdingahammer.com

"The Hammer Falls November 2, 2010."

18. září 2010, 03:17:54
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re:
Bernice: Ever notice that the liberals that post her ignore the facts they are presented with? Such as high taxes on businesses drive businesses OUT of business (or out of the state OR overseas). These are facts. One look at California and even Washington State bears this out. California is in dire straights. They have lost tons of businesses due to high tax rates. California has high entitlement payouts and they have bankrupt the state. People have left the State due to unfair taxes. And the Obama model is exactly this! Wise up libs! It's not working because this approach to economics NEVER works.

know-what-I-mean?

18. září 2010, 02:41:32
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re:
Vikings: They have a cream for that ya know.

18. září 2010, 02:31:19
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Here's what Col Klink calls spin. He wouldn't know a fact it it hit him in the face.
Two Los Angeles departments created all of 55 jobs with that chunk of taxpayer money says the LA Times:

Two Los Angeles departments have received $111 million in federal stimulus funds yet have created only 55 jobs so far, according to a pair of reports issued Thursday by City Controller Wendy Greuel.

The reports conclude that the agencies, Public Works and Transportation, moved too slowly in spending the federal money, in part because of the time it takes to secure approval of government contracts. The two agencies plan to create or retain a combined 264 jobs once all the money is spent, according to the reports.

With unemployment above 12%, city officials should move more urgently to cut red tape and spend the money, Greuel said. "The process needs to be changed to make sure we get these projects out as quickly as possible," she said.

18. září 2010, 02:25:20
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re:
The Col: you are aware that the people here that read my stuff don't have the brains to comprehend the real problem. That's because most of you only know the democratic talking points. And that's why instead of talking about real issues, you prefer to discuss masturbation.

18. září 2010, 02:07:12
Papa Zoom 
California reported receiving 111 million dollars of stimulus money. And with that they were able to create 55 jobs. That works out to 2 million per job. And the dems wonder why the people are fed up with Obama's stimulus polities?

And yet Obama still wants to increase the taxes of the rich. And he's willing to let the middle class suffer tax increases unless he gets his way. He's a turtle on a fence post.

17. září 2010, 19:22:08
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: I do not understand the logic
The Col: Taxing the rich more will not solve problems. How about smaller government, less entitlements, and more responsible spending? That WILL make a positive difference.

17. září 2010, 07:04:31
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Now we have democrats running over poll workers when they get ticked!
Übergeek 바둑이: The Democrats made fun of the Tea Party even though they represented middle America. They are a fast growing group and as has been seen, they are making some dents. The fact that democrats ignored and tried to marginalize the group has been to their own peril. Republicans who marginalized them found out the hard way that the people will hold them accountable.

Now the dems are getting frustrated. They have to record to run on so they run against Bush once again. lol

I just hope the Repubs clean up the mess and don't create new messes in the process.

17. září 2010, 07:01:31
Papa Zoom 
And the trillions to the deficit is reckless spending. Get real. People who think like you are the REAL problem with the American economy.

17. září 2010, 07:00:14
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: they are left with nothing else but complaining that they could lose the right to play with themselves
The Col: Nonsense. Nothing Obama has done has worked and the suggesting that more taxes will help the economy is lunacy.

17. září 2010, 05:49:40
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Now we have democrats running over poll workers when they get ticked!
Democrat Alderwoman hits poll worker with car
Thomas Lifson
As the nation turns against them, more and more Democrats are going nuts, behaving in bizarre, and sometimes violent ways. Milwaukee television station WTMJ reports:

Milwaukee Alderwoman Milele Coggs hit a poll worker with her car Tuesday after what is described as a heated argument over results.

17. září 2010, 05:35:34
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Anti-Masturbation Candidate Christine O’Donnell Wins Republican Senate Primary in Delaware
Tuesday: Sounds like experience talking.

17. září 2010, 05:13:35
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Anti-Masturbation Candidate Christine O’Donnell Wins Republican Senate Primary in Delaware
Übergeek 바둑이: Interesting how the Democrats have fully run out of legitimate arguments. They can't stand on their record these past few years. The only thing left is to attack their opponents with non issues and now it seems, they are left with nothing else but complaining that they could lose the right to play with themselves.

15. září 2010, 07:45:56
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Im not trying to start another useless discussion on abortion as we have gone over that about a dozen times on here at different times over the years, and never get any wiser :)
Bernice:

15. září 2010, 06:49:55
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Baptism
Übergeek 바둑이:

14. září 2010, 07:28:48
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Everyone assumes they know what the truth is. How can any of us TRULY know? It's all about FAITH, I guess.
rod03801: I'll bet you scoff in a hostile way

14. září 2010, 07:07:28
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Everyone assumes they know what the truth is. How can any of us TRULY know? It's all about FAITH, I guess.
rod03801: Because I said so.

I forgot to mention - God runs everything by me first. ;)

14. září 2010, 07:03:06
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Everyone assumes they know what the truth is. How can any of us TRULY know? It's all about FAITH, I guess.
rod03801: but yer still wrong

14. září 2010, 07:00:54
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Everyone assumes they know what the truth is. How can any of us TRULY know? It's all about FAITH, I guess.
rod03801: down boy! I get it ;)

14. září 2010, 06:54:21
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Everyone assumes they know what the truth is. How can any of us TRULY know? It's all about FAITH, I guess.
rod03801: The god you believe in is a god made in your own image unless what you believe happens to be true. Just saying (this is true for everyone I suppose). If 100 people have 100 different views of God, either all are wrong or just ONE is right and the others wrong. You can't have 100 people with differing views on something all being correct. That is illogical. So it seems to me that if you're going to bother believing in something, one should give a reasoned effort to see out what's true etc ;)

14. září 2010, 06:47:19
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Everyone assumes they know what the truth is. How can any of us TRULY know? It's all about FAITH, I guess.
Bernice: I do understand. I've heard similar stories before and it's sad really. People meant well I suppose.

Frankly, I find the Bible quite convincing. I think God has adequately revealed himself in his Word, and through His Son. I think that God reveals himself through the world (but not as Rod sees it but as a demonstration of his creative power). There are many things I've investigated through the years that demonstrate intellectually that Christianity is true. That appeals to me because when I was young I was told to 'just believe." Well, the skeptics in the world challenged me and I had no answers to their questions. "Just believe" was no longer good enough. So I began asking lots of questions. And honestly I haven't stopped asking. I know what I believe to be ultimate true and I know what I am totally clueless on. God for example, is incomprehensible. Anyone who fully understands God is either a liar, a deceiver, or a complete fool. No one can fully know God as he really is.

We can't begin to fully understand the ways of God. We know some things, but not all. So the things I say I believer to be true are really only those things that are revealed. Each one I could make a rational argument for (such as baptism and it's place in the church). Ask me about hell and I'll tell you honestly that neither do I know and neither does anyone really know about the nature of hell. There are four views of hell and they are all well supported by rational argument and based on the Bible. Why is there no agreement? Well the Bible isn't exactly crystal clear on this. There are some things we know, some things we absolutely don't know, and other things of which we have only a glimpse. ;)

14. září 2010, 05:45:14
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Everyone assumes they know what the truth is. How can any of us TRULY know? It's all about FAITH, I guess.
rod03801: I wasn't saying your method of disagreeing was hostile but that your attitude toward religion and in particular Christian claims seemed hostile. ;)

14. září 2010, 05:07:52
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Everyone assumes they know what the truth is. How can any of us TRULY know? It's all about FAITH, I guess.
rod03801: Human like God? Christianity doesn't teach that. And there are plenty of people, atheists, intellectuals, regular joes, who became Christians after examining the claims of Christ. It sounds to me like you're just rejecting it out of hand. Hostile even. But that's ok. Some believe and some don't. You can't come to faith on your own anyway.

14. září 2010, 04:58:13
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Everyone assumes they know what the truth is. How can any of us TRULY know? It's all about FAITH, I guess.
rod03801: Why is it illogical? You think God isn't capable of inspiring men to write a book?

14. září 2010, 04:54:21
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: But y'all (and I DO mean "all") act like you know the definites.
Bernice: um yeah, Jesus was in both places ;)

14. září 2010, 04:51:42
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Everyone assumes they know what the truth is. How can any of us TRULY know? It's all about FAITH, I guess.
rod03801: I'm talking about the orthodox Christian views. And those do matter. There are certain things the church has agreed upon that have stood the test of time. And they are supported by the Bible. So yeah, that matters. And what the alternative? Everyone walks around with the attitude that, "I don't know." That's a silly alternative. Some people hold views that they are comfortable with but they are based on personal preferences. To me that seems even more crazy.

14. září 2010, 04:25:23
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Everyone assumes they know what the truth is. How can any of us TRULY know? It's all about FAITH, I guess.
rod03801: I know what I think I understand to be true. And I know what is orthodox and what is not.

14. září 2010, 03:57:34
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Everyone assumes they know what the truth is. How can any of us TRULY know? It's all about FAITH, I guess.
rod03801: There are things we can know with certainty, other things on which we may disagree, and still other things which we cannot know. It's not unusual for organized or unorganized religion to differ on points. But where in the world is this not true of everything? Business, politics, education, you name it.

14. září 2010, 03:52:27
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re:
rod03801: What you've described is pantheism. It basically means God is in all.

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