BrainKing - Diskusní kluby (Tournaments)

how do i sign up???!?!???

17. června 2005, 19:40:05

Czuch

Here is a Quick Players Club Backgammon Open #1.
2 day moves, fixed weekends. 1 game per 2 players. 8 person sections.

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=9429&tri=46946&trnst=0

15. června 2005, 22:07:07

mal4inara

Subjekt: congrats rozi

On winning my tournament :

http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?tri=34106

15. června 2005, 21:51:48

Mort

Subjekt: Re: Back to S-B

It use to be nice on *cough* that when 2 people had equal points they both went through, sometimes even more. Is it possible that the use of SB to determine the outcome of a scetion be optional.

15. června 2005, 17:30:22

Subjekt: Re: Back to S-B

Backoff: I'll break it down for you.

Section #2:

Player 1 - 2 wins
Player 2 - 5 wins
Player 3 - 2 wins
Player 4 - 3 wins
Player 5 - 5 wins
Player 6 - 0 wins
Player 7 - 3 wins

So so to figure out S-B's
Player 1 - won against player 4 & 6. Player 4 had 3 wins. Player 6 had 0 wins. So 3+0 = 3. 3 S-B

Player 2 - won against player 1,3,5,6,7 = 2+3+5+0+3= 13. 13 S-B

Player 3 - won against 1,4,6 = 2+3+0= 5.

Player 4 - won against 2,6,7 = 5+0+3= 8

Player 5 - won against 1,3,4,6,7 = 2+3+3+0+3= 11

Player 6 - no wins = 0

Player 7 - won against 1,3,6 = 2+3+0= 5

15. června 2005, 17:06:01

Backoff

Subjekt: Back to S-B

Změněno uživatelem Backoff (15. června 2005, 17:11:24)

I really don't understand how the finish in section 2 of http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?tri=45268#2
happend. Care to break it down for me? If we got rid of the S-B, then we both would have moved on due to points.

15. června 2005, 15:38:33

Fencer

Subjekt: Re: Team Tournaments

jfa: Original team members.

15. června 2005, 13:34:48

Tobias

Subjekt: Team Tournaments

When the first team tournament goes to final round will it be the original team members or the current team members that play?

15. června 2005, 03:49:47

shagglbrox

Subjekt: Re:

Thad: That's an excellent point, Thad - it really is meaningless.

If the win/loss is the same, just play the tiebreaker round. How is that not the fairest way?

15. června 2005, 01:35:31

noscere

Subjekt: WINNER - Beginners Tablut #4 (Public tournament)

Congratulations to Robsaranga - the first winner of a beginners tablut tournament, winning event #4 - http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=8474&u=14258&trnst=10&tp=19

He will be the first invitation to the final event.

Event #10 has yet to start, so for those not yet entered into the beginners tablut series, you've got just under a week to get involved!

14. června 2005, 20:27:00

Subjekt: s-b

i won the following 2 tournaments via the s-b points

http://brainking.com/nl/Tournaments?tri=22439
http://brainking.com/nl/Tournaments?tri=21880

the funny thing is the first i won against someone with a lower bkr and a lower seed
the second one i won against someone with a higher bkr and higher seed

(of course the bkrs are useless as they have changed, but the seeds havent, so their bkr was already lower and higher than mine at that time)

14. června 2005, 20:21:38

Thad

Subjekt: Re:

Změněno uživatelem Thad (14. června 2005, 20:23:15)

Pedro Martínez: But if you compare losses, it doesn't make sensse. If we use the section I mentioned a few posts down, JackS & I each ended up with only one loss and everyone else had more. Clearly we will finish 1-2. JackS lost to me, so he lost to either the first or second place guy. I, on the other hand, lost ot a lesser ranked player. when you look at it that way, it seems that JackS should advance.

S-Bs work when everyone does not play everyone else. For example, it would work in the NFL where every team does not play every other team. It is essentially a measurement of strenght of schedule. But since it's used here at BK inside sections, where we all play each other, it is meaningless.

14. června 2005, 20:19:33

Subjekt: Re:

Změněno uživatelem Hrqls (14. června 2005, 20:20:03)

Pedro Martínez: thanks .. i like it as well .. i believe i have won some tournaments that way ;)

14. června 2005, 20:14:57

Pedro Martínez

I am against removing s-b. It prefers win against better players to wins against lower rated players and I like it that way. And to answer Hrqls's question, yes, of course it is used, it's not a BK speciality...

14. června 2005, 20:11:39

Subjekt: Re: feelings on S-Bs

Thad: in real time tournament (playing in clubs in the so called real world (yes there is a world beyond this one! ;)) ... are winners determined by their s-b points as well .. or will players who won an equal amount of games win together ?

14. června 2005, 19:59:10

Thad

Subjekt: Re: feelings on S-Bs

Hrqls: What do you mean?

14. června 2005, 19:55:29

Subjekt: Re: feelings on S-Bs

Thad: is s-b used in real time tournaments ?

14. června 2005, 19:45:50

Bry

Subjekt: Re: feelings on S-Bs

Thad: agree.

14. června 2005, 19:45:13

Thad

Subjekt: feelings on S-Bs

I think S-Bs stink and should be eliminated. If two players tie with the same win/loss record, they both should move on to the next round. How do others feel?

14. června 2005, 18:48:52

Tobias

Subjekt: Re: Fellowship Tournaments

BIG BAD WOLF: Who woulda thunk it? Thanks BBW!!

14. června 2005, 18:47:44

Subjekt: Re: Fellowship Tournaments

jfa: First you need to add a team to the fellowship.

Then after you add a team (for example, Backgammon team) - you will see a link to add a tournament.

NOTE: After you create a tournament, you can safely remove the team from the fellowship if you do not want it - but you need to at least add it to create the tournament.

14. června 2005, 18:45:10

Tobias

Subjekt: Fellowship Tournaments

Will someone please tell me how to create a tournament within a fellowship? I do not see any way to do this.

14. června 2005, 18:06:24

shagglbrox

Subjekt: Congrats to redsales

For beating me out in a hard fought final round 3-2, to take the last remaining tourney championship in My Stinking Brother's Pente Tourney (aka Pente and more Pente - and then some more) , thus stopping my quest to win at least half the variations....

Awesome match, redsales, kudos.

14. června 2005, 15:35:54

Subjekt: Re:

Backoff: bkr has nothing to do with s-b ... only the games won by your opponent in that tournament account to your s-b

14. června 2005, 15:34:04

Backoff

like this one http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=2810&tri=9113

there are 2 sections with more than one winner despite the difference in BKR.

14. června 2005, 15:19:33

Subjekt: Re: How S-B work

Thad: Actually, only you (Thad) should win the section. jack will have the same points, but will not have as high of a S-B as you.

14. června 2005, 08:52:36

Thad

Subjekt: Re: How S-B work

Backoff: That only happens when the top two players both lose to the same lower rated player, which is not the case here. He lost to me and I lost to someone else.

I think S-Bs should be eliminated and players who tie for section wins with identical win/loss records should both move on. Since we're not doing tournaments with set brackets when it starts, like professional tennis tournaments or the NCAA basketball tourneys, an extra player (or players) advancing won't affect things much, but will make tourneys more enjoyable and fair (IMO).

14. června 2005, 08:16:11

Backoff

Změněno uživatelem Backoff (14. června 2005, 08:16:19)

you and jack should move to round two.

14. června 2005, 07:59:37

Thad

Subjekt: Re: How S-B work

BIG BAD WOLF: Please explain to me who is going to win Section 1 of this tournament:
http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?tri=41627#1

14. června 2005, 06:50:33

Subjekt: How S-B work

Změněno uživatelem coan.net (14. června 2005, 06:59:14)

A question I get every once and awhile is how the S-B works in tournaments, and it is pretty simple once you know how it works - so I decided to just post a good expination here for everyone to read who might have questions.

First, I picked a tournament as an example: THIS TOURNAMENT

Now first, the points are figured. You get 1 point for each win. So:

(1)arpa - 3 wins, 3 points

(2)zockerdotcom - 3 wins, 3 points

(3)SMART ALX - 0 wins, 0 points

(4)Ladybird68 - 2 wins, 2 points

(5)Merrily Watkins - 2 wins, 2 points.

Now once all the games and points are figured, this is where the S-B is figured.

The S-B is the SUM of the points of your oppenets that you won against. So:

(1)arpa(3 points) - had win against player 3, 4, and 5. Player 3 had 0 points. Player 4 had 2 points. Player 5 had 2 points. So 0+2+2=4 [4 S-B]

(2)zockerdotcom(3 points) - wins agains 1,3,5. So 3+0+2=5 [5 S-B]

(3)SMART ALX(0 points) - [0 S-B]

(4)Ladybird68(2 points) - wins against 2,3. So 3+0=3 [3 S-B]

(5)Merrily Watkins(2 points) - wins against 3,4. So 0+2=2 [2 S-B]

So first the person with the most points win. In this example, both arpa & zockerdotcom have 3 points each. At this point we look at the S-B. zockerdotcom has 5 S-B, while arpa only has 4 S-B, so zockerdotcom gets the win for this tournament!

IMPORTANT NOTE: The winner of a tournament is the one with the most points. In some cases, the person with the highest S-B will not have the most points, so does not win. Only time S-B comes into play is if there is a tie in points.

Hope this helps everyone!

13. června 2005, 16:18:24

Subjekt: Tournaments

First I had a few people ask me if I was going to make more of the "Fast Start - First 5 to sign up" tournaments like I've done in the past - well I've started them back up - And this time to make the games a little quicker, NO DAYS OFF has been added to the games - meaning no weekends and no vacations. 3 days should be 3 days!

Check out the Tournaments to see what is currently up. When I see one get filled with 5 players, I start that and make a new tournament.

= = = = = = = = = = = = =

Second, since the last "dummies" tournament did very well - almost had enough players to start every game! Anyway, The #10 for dummies tournament is ready for sign ups.

ALL games for dummies (under 1500 & unrated) #10

For players rated 1500 or under

For unrated players

5 days to move, standard days off

GREAT for someone learning a new game

GREAT for someone to play without being "killed" by experts

To start around July 10.

Good Luck to all!

13. června 2005, 13:21:52

Subjekt: Re:

frolind: i would love to join ... but i will be at work then .. and cant make a move every hour :(

13. června 2005, 12:46:07

Thad

Subjekt: Re:

frolind: A ten wins final match!?!

13. června 2005, 12:44:20

Subjekt: Re:

frolind: fearsome :)

13. června 2005, 12:29:14

frolind

Subjekt: Re:

Fencer: I'll write it in the description.

13. června 2005, 12:28:31

Fencer

Subjekt: Re:

frolind: I hope the participants will understand that no timeouts would be restored.

13. června 2005, 12:26:27

frolind

Insomnia Backgammon

13. června 2005, 03:21:22

Chimera

Subjekt: Re:

rod03801:

thank you

13. června 2005, 03:13:54

rod03801

As each one is finished, the winner is notified.

13. června 2005, 03:09:36

Chimera

In a tournament that has different games is the winner of one of the game types notified when that game type is finished or when the entire tournament is over?

11. června 2005, 23:54:15

Grim Reaper

For Those Who Have Fallen In Iraq On All Sides

9. června 2005, 16:35:23

Mort

Our Hyper Backgammon team still has 2 places open. So if you'd like to take part in the up coming Team Tournements then Join the SCRL fellowship.

9. června 2005, 11:44:01

mal4inara

Subjekt: congrats origami

congrats on winning my backgammon tourney :

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?tri=34108

Jo

9. června 2005, 01:12:52

Pedro Martínez

Subjekt: Re:

furbster: I've just noticed that, furbster...:)..and edited the post...

9. června 2005, 01:11:52

furbster

only 2 now i think Pedro, fungame has signed up :o)

9. června 2005, 01:11:03

Pedro Martínez

Změněno uživatelem Pedro Martínez (9. června 2005, 01:11:58)

The Zoo chess team desperately needs 2 more people to play in the fellowship tourney...your rating is not what matters, please peeps, come on and join the other animals in the Zoo's chess team...

8. června 2005, 20:13:19

Ferjo

Subjekt: Beginners Tablut ( 1500 BKR) #5

Změněno uživatelem Ferjo (8. června 2005, 20:16:14)

Shouldn't this be a 2 games final?
Beginners Tablut ( 1500 BKR) #5

8. června 2005, 09:57:58

Mort

Our Small Pente and Hyper Backgammon teams still have places open. So if you'd like to take part in the up coming Team Tournements then Join the SCRL fellowship.

8. června 2005, 01:22:01

Antje

The Sunshine Club needs one backgammon player and 2 froglet players for anyone out there interested in participating in the interfellowship tournaments set to commence in 2 days!!

8. června 2005, 00:01:41

arpa