thats OK. No skin off my back.

Sorry.. I will not be joining any new fellowships until MM is reinstated as BB in his.

LOL:) bravo

Come join the looped fellowship. It has a tournament that will start on Friday.

I've read what the convo was on the 'Cave' that caused the deletion and banning....

I really think that you over reacted. It's ok for the men to talk about beastiality re men but not make a 'steam/vent remark about women!! Don't women steam/vent on about men at all??

Sorry, but we are equal. My Mum says it is an offense to think of women as the weaker sex as you've had to put up with us men all these years!! lol

Sincerely.. I feel you over reacted because your name was implied in the sequence of remarks by certain people.

But I do agree, it is a matter of perception at the moment.

Jules :)

well we could always move our questionable boards off-site. I have 3 phpbb boards right now. it's super easy to do and only needs a php server with mySQL. Hey, I've got one of those lol. If fencer would be so kinda as to let us put links in the right side for the ones we are members of (in with the fellowships) then this whole problem would be solved. Just a thought.

Backoff, im sure the "gossiper/taddler/hero" should type anything he thinks is interesting and send a pm anyway :)

humm mabye disable the right-click in the fellowships, it's easy to do, one line of HTML. (I know there's ways around this, but it would stop SOME of it anyway)

ug: I see you. :)

Everywhere before this, all I've seen from Fencer is, "It is up to the BigBoss who and what is allowed within his/her fellowship." This is apparently not the case. It's disgusting.

I find the whole thing repulsive, and an insult to adult women everywhere. Not the cave-talk, which I never saw, as I'm not a member, but the reactions. It should never have left the cave. Those who were offended with the banter within the cave should have left the cave. It's easy enough: There's a link on each fellowship homepage, "remove me...".. do so and stop whining.

i have been asked to post this message for a friend

"Does anyone realise that one of the people concerned, that is now banned has been doing all the hard work trying to get the bugs sorted on the new version for over a month now, with very little help from anyone.
That is the way he gets treated for trying to get BK 2.0 here for everyone. Nice eh..."

Grow up. Play the games that Fencer has provided. Be polite in the fellowships that Fencer has provided. Fencer has asked that in all aspect of this site, we treat each other with respect. It doesn't matter if everyone can see the trash that has gone on here. It shouldn't go on at all. As bwildman and others have said...If you don't like it don't pay for it.

Please, don't make Fencer waste his valuable time by having to moderate abuse. It just prolongs the much anticipated upgrades.

I joined a site that I had 100% enthusiasim with,that "was" run by Fencer.
Since this site is no longer run by Fencer...but a hypocrit....I will not be renewwing my membership.

ughaibu..i think it was an attempt from Bumble to be funny..not sure tho :)

Sorry if my english isnt at your satisfaction Bumble, but i thought that I've means I have..right?
which refers to something made in the past..right?
Please correct me if im wrong.

you just dropped into a fellowship that was deleted over 12 hours ago? Impressive.

Oh My God!! This is too childish!! The only person who should be banned is in my opinion the "hero" who copied and pasted from "The Cave".
I've dropped in there now and then and read their "boy talk"...very harmless IMO.
How someone can be so childish to copy and send it to Harley (he surely knew Harley's "love" for Steve) is unbelievable!

Just how naive and childish can some self-appointed "good-doers" be???
This "verbal women abuse" thing tops even the infamous Dano -hunt episode as the most stuped thing I`ve seen on BK discussion boards.
I take it that the Cave has been deleted because of this bulls**t?

Fencer should be able to run the site as he sees fit. If you don't like that a ban occurred then you can vote by not renewing your membership and
moving to another site that allows that behavior.

Edited to add this comment:
I personally glad the vulgar and crude comments are limited here and stopped when they get out of hand. I don't want to see it, I joined the CAVE fellowship and was offended a long time ago. I am not surprised it reached a level that it needed to be removed.

Not anymore, it isn't against the rules. This post was saved by the auther, as I understand it, and sent through PM.... I don't think the rules state that you can not send something from a PM to anyone else or post this PM on a board, once it has been PM'd it is fair to post it anywhere or re send it to whomever.

In short Harley, you are safe from the rules, please send it along..Thanks :)

as paying members of brain king shouldnt we all be allowed to see these posts and vote on wether we think a ban is in order?

No that isn't right, IMupChucKing. In fact my name was mentioned as someone he wouldn't touch! What a relief for me, eh?
But I can't send you the posts as I would be breaking the rules, as stated by yourself.

I do think you (women) tend to be more sensative and emotionally driven....

I still have not seen any of the posts yet, and am patiently waiting to do so, as have requested they be sent to me by PM.

Do I understand correctly... Your name, Harley, was mentioned directly, and that someone wanted to rape you? That sounds pretty harsh to me!

Well I don't know, ughaibu. Maybe we just have higher standards.

Thanks for your help. I was searching all over the place and now I know.

Star of Darkness, there is a list of BK representatives at Brainking.info

Representatives and info can be found at: www.BrainKing.info

No big cover up. I've said I'll pass the name along. Not that it would really matter, enough people were unhappy that if it hadn't been one person, it would have been another.
Ughaibu, you can't say nobody has a case to answer apart from the person who expressed concerns. Its not ok to talk in this way about women. Thats the bottom line. Not how it got out of the cave. Once people started talking in this way it became the business of the people named in there. And in my personal opinion, the business of every woman here who has a right to know how they are being talked about in this fellowship. But thats just my personal opinion.

Just who are all the Brainking Representatives and where are they listed on this site?
Also, If Fencer is the one who made site rules, it should be up to him alone as to deciding how the rules were broken, who broke the rules and the punishment for breaking the rules. Fencer alone should decide what is best for his site....after all, he is the Creator. The Brainking Representatives are the site's "watchdogs" which should give them the right to report their findings to Fencer. Fencer should have the final say as to what the punishment should be.

Actually the debate about what can and can not be done with Fellowship post seems to be about Fellowships!

Maybe in the next couple of days once people have the answers that they need, the Moderator can go through and clean up all these messages and just point them to the user agreemenet which has the correct rules which should be followed.

This is not a debate board. I read this board to see the newest fellowship ads. The debate on the rules does not deal with fellowships so move it someplace else.

Please!!!!