It was mentioned on both BK board and Fellowships board numerous times

why does a person need more than 2 fellowships, How many fellowships have you been in where the only thing that is accopmlished is the same conversation over and over, "thank for the invite" and "Glad you joined"
I can't rember where he mentioned it, it was on one of the public boards about a year ago, I'll bet if you ask BBW, he would rember the conversation beter than I, I remember that he was part of it and seems to remember those sort of things pretty good

Vikings: Where'd he mention it, on the Fellowship discussion board? A place I've never been to, by the way. I'll get over it eventually. It has little effect upon my enjoyment of this site. I'm just not happy with how it went down.
If not grandfather clauses, paying extra for extra fellowships sure could be an option. How 'bout charging less for membership for those that don't use the fellowships, but use every thing else? Or even have an "A la carte" type membership where you pick and choose the features you want, or go with a package like it is now (Knight or Rook)?

I believe that fencer also mentioned that he would be asking people to cut it down to 2, I rember BBW asking if he could keep a third since his were more game related

Czuch Chuckers: Exactly right. I think more fellowships could be allowed for higher membership levels or for Gold Rooks though.

Vikings: Thats correct.
But nobody was told that they could keep any fellowships already existing. It sounded like we would lose any of them over the limit of two. Some people already gave some away, unecessarily, and some (like myself) did not start another one because we did not want to go through the hasstle of getting it going only to have it taken away. Had we known that we could have been grandfathered, these actions would not have been necessary.

actually, fencer mentioned the limit on fellowships about a year ago, so most people knew it was coming

Czuch Chuckers: Both your options are fair. The one with the grandfather clause would give us all some lead time to adjust as our memberships came up for renewal or get us to pay in advance to keep it going. The other one treats us all alike and is fair in that respect. The way it was done was capricious and arbitrary even if I don't avail myself of the fellowship formation option.

Walter Montego: I hear you...

I had a couple of fellowships I wanted to start recently, and didnt because I knew Fencer was going to limit them son, and didnt want to waste the time just to get it taken away. I know other people gave away fellowships before the change because they wanted to start a new one but didnt want to go over the limit of 2.

I think that anyone with a rook membership created before the rule change should continue with the same benefits that we signed up with. We should all be grand fathered, and impliment the rule for new and renewed memberships from this point on.

Either that or only allow 2 for everybody regardless.

When you pay, you sign up for all the available options, and they shouldnt be taken away during that membership period.

Fencer: how about permitting user defined emoticons? upload small gif files to info@... then you assign them a number

Fencer:

No more.

The teddy still has a white background.

you are my :)

Code 54.

a quick search lead me to :
http://msn.mess.be/categories.php?cat_id=23

2 from the selection :
http://msn.mess.be/data/media/23/teddy1_ns.gif
http://msn.mess.be/data/media/23/teddy2_ns.gif

another category has some as well (maybe other categories as well :))
http://msn.mess.be/categories.php?cat_id=30

another site :
http://www.msnemotions.org/avatar/326.Teddy-bear-love.html

on this site are a lot of links to the metoyou bears
http://www.metoyou.startbewijs.nl/

on that site these are nice but might a bit too large, i dont know if they can be resized :)
http://be.msnusers.com/Thetattyteddypage/snowfun.msnw

will have a look :)

Hrqls: Can you provide it?

could we have a teddy bear emoticon ?? please ??

Fencer, The pond page looks great

*pats self on back for staying on topic and not mentioning that Santa even was tried the insanity clause.*

oh my! fencer is being strangled by elves!

(oops this is probably off topic ;))

Is that a 'Fencer ehm, ehm'? Sort of a muted 'Fencer answer'?

Ehm, ehm.

cariad:Don't talk rubbish! You'll be saying there's no Santa Claus next!

I hate to be the one to break the news but there is no sanity clause.

A grandfather clause? What happened to the Santa clause? Is there a sanity clause?

Have a look at Pond page.
About fellowships - yes, it's exactly like BBW describes. There is probably some small bug with Big Boss transfer under these circumstances.

Walter Montego: Gosh, Walter : Keep this up and you'll have me believing that you're serious

pgt: I don't intend to join or form any either, but it still seems like something is being taken from me. Maybe it's just a preception problem on my part. I'm getting penalized for the actions of others. Why not reward us people that don't cause problems instead of lowering the service because of the idiots that make trouble?

Walter Montego: Walter, I don't intend to start any new fellowships, so feel free to start a couple under my name if you like

First: Actually no one said anything about a grandfather clause but me - as a way to exaplin how it is a NEW rule that is now in place.

Second: If Fencer says that he wants everyone back below 2 fellowships, I will then get rid of 1 - no problems from me.

Third: Why was it done? (my guess) is that some people had started creating many fellowships, which could have been easily combined into 1 or 2. I believe it was done to stop the possible abuse that can happen. (There was one incedent where a person create 3-4 fellowship all for the same purpose, but was asked to get rid of some and they did - which is probable a reason.)

Walter - If you have more then 2 fellowships, you also are allowed to keep them for now - unless told otherwise - I have been given no extra deal or anything.

BIG BAD WOLF: We joined three days apart almost two years ago. Why should you get a better deal than me? Where's my grandfather clause? Doesn't seem right or fair to me. And you didn't answer my question as to why this is being done. It does sound like it's being done permanently though.

LOL very convenient eh . who said that extra part then?

There is a new limit of 2 fellowship to be BIG BOSS (create/run). It's only for new fellowships. If a person already runs more then 2, that is allowed (grandfathered in), but will no longer be able to have more then 2.

There is still no limit for the number you can join.

BIG BAD WOLF: But you still have three ;o)

BIG BAD WOLF: Could you explain this limit? I'm not member of any fellowships, but I'd like am explanation of this limit and when it came about. Does it effect how many one can join? Or be the Big Boss of? What happens to people that are already over the limit? Is the limit temporary or permanent? Why was it instituted? When will it be rescinded? Even though I'm not a member of a fellowship, it seems like a lessening of the service if I'm now restricted when I never even used it. Do I get some other thing as compensation?

BIG BAD WOLF: very possible but I was trying to divest..not add on.

BIG BAD WOLF: Oh okay.. I see it now.. silly me.. :)

ScarletRose - That is what I'm talking about also. Instead of just seeng "Full", my way we could see how close it is to being full also.

Purple - There is a limit of 2 fellowships now in effect - could this limit be causing your problems?

Purple: is that a feature request? LOL

BIG BAD WOLF: I was meaning on the main pond page link.. that way you wouldn't have to go into each individual game.. to find they are full..

I tried to transfer ownership of the FS Our Place to Slam with the result that I am no longer Big Boss but neither is he. There is a similar problem with Ask Dr. Purple where he is listed as Big Boss but has no functions. These are private fellowships. Can you advise?

Pond Game: Or do this:

In the current "Minimum number of players" column, put "Min/Max players" - and then include the numbers like 16/20 - for 16 min, and then 20 max.

Then in the current "Maximum number of players", Put "Players signed so far"

That way you can see at a quick glace how many are currently signed up and without taking up any extra room.

ScarletRose:
good idea....im sick of clicking on ponds and seeing i cant join...a "full" sign would be good or even the "number" signed

to the pond games that have already met their maxium sign up??

Fencer has said yes to an "accept all" feature. Still waiting

ScarletRose: thanks that's a great idea i will try it.

volant: only way to do that now is to pretend each notepad is a folder..

One is for recipes for instance, another for stories (such as the one I am writing at Fantasy Island).

I just keep adding to them.. and separate the entries with something like this..
***********

Would it be possible to have some way to rearrange things we have saved in our notepad. So we could group some together or put others on the top or bottom.

Rose: LOL! I just couldn't resist that reply!