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 Feature requests

Do you miss something on BrainKing.com and would you like to see it here? Post your request into this board!
If there is a more specific board for the request, (i.e. game rule changes etc) then it should be posted and discussed on that specific board.

For further information about Feature Requests, please visit this link on the Brainking.Info site : http://brainking.info/archives/20-About-feature-requests.html


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4. října 2005, 03:47:49
rod03801 
Subjekt: Monthly Summary of Requests.
When I get time, I will go through the requests and put all that have come in, in September in one post, and post a link to that post at the top of this page.

This will serve 2 purposes:
a) It will be "one spot" for Fencer to look over past requests, without scrolling through "chatter".
b) people will see what has already been requested (if they care to check)

I may not get a chance to do this until the weekend, so if anyone wants to help out and do a good deed, they can send me a PM with a summary of the requests.
I will start keeping an on-going list in my notepad, so that future months can go up immediately at the end of that month.

4. října 2005, 03:58:44
nobleheart 
Subjekt: Re:
plaintiger: I've had that happen once,does the loginname start with D & end in K???

4. října 2005, 04:10:57
LionsLair 
Subjekt: my last and final post on this subject
AbigailII:To me it means backgammon players are more satisfied with Brainking than Chess players. There are more of them, and relatively more of them pay. So, Fencer needs to work harder in the Chess department to attract more players. ;-)

that's not necessarily true... I for one would be a paying member if the 'gammon features had more to offer... mainly fixing the dice program and the implimentation of the cube...
chess is a great game when played fairly, but it is too easy to cheat at chess... too many computer progams out there and you never know when an opponent is using one...
...some may say 'well, gammon is luck', which at times it might be a small factor, it also has alot to do with skill...
...for the avid chess player, BK is the bomb, I suppose(with all it's differant variations) but as for the avid 'gammon player, BK is a dud of sorts...
I realize that my one measily membership means nothing to Fencer and HIS site, but he put this feature request board here for a reason... to figure out what members or POTENTIAL members would like to see here at BK...
...as he stated "I am aware of it"... and " I am not obliged to show any progress with anything. I read, think, consider, conclude etc. But it's only up to me and nobody else"...
...and we all respect that... we're simply REQUESTING FEATURES!!

:o) have a great day and happy gaming!
p.s. ...I'll be waiting to see the bone thrown!

4. října 2005, 06:09:12
rod03801 
It really NEEDS to be the last post on this subject now. Please continue the backgammon conversation on the backgammon DB.(A link to help ya get there, even!) Fencer knows our wishes and will do it when he gets to it.

Further posts on this board about this will be deleted.

Please don't make us do that! :-D

4. října 2005, 08:18:46
Bry 
Subjekt: Re:
rod03801: Perhaps you could, by keeping in contact with Fencer, amend the top of this board to have 2 headings - something like - "Features being worked on at present(or in development as it at present)" - numbered in priority to Fencer from 1 to X, and then another list of "Features Requested - not currently being considered/worked on".

By keeping the Features being worked on upto date, people will be able to see exactly what's coming, and the other list will help people see what's been requested previously so we dont get the same suggestions every few months when the original request gets burried in all the posts.


4. října 2005, 19:34:50
coan.net 
Subjekt: Latrunculi
I was reading about a game called Latrunculi which seems very interesting - like a cross between Hasami Shogi & Talbut.

While searching sites, a few different versions of rules since it is a very old game (Romans - BC)

Basic rules (that I like):

12x8 board.
Row 1 on each side are the players pieces (12 each).
Each side has a "king" which starts in row 2.
The back row pieces act just like Hasami Shogi - you move, capture, etc just like in the game of Hasami Shogi. But the goal of the game is not to get 5 in a row, but to capture the opponents king on all 4 sides like in Talbut.

I would add that if a king is along the edge, then only 3 pieces are needed to capture it.
If a king is in the corner, then only 2 pieces are needed to capture it.
King can only "jump" their own pieces, not the opponents.
If no captures are made in 30 moves, game is over - person with most captured pieces wins.

Wikipedia has an entry for the game which shows the board, the the rules listed there are a little different. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latrunculi

Other sites which all have a little bit different rules, but overall - looks like it would be an interesting addition to this game site:

http://www.di.fc.ul.pt/~jpn/gv/latrunculi.htm
http://www.bethanddon.com/page/1168564608.html (about 1/2 way down the page)
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/w/x/wxk116/roma/latruncu.html

We may have to discuss this to get a good set of rules that will work well, but I think something could be worked out.

5. října 2005, 05:11:56
BlitzMe 
Subjekt: Checkers
Změněno uživatelem BlitzMe (5. října 2005, 05:12:40)
I found it shocking that Brainking has all these unknown variants of Checkers(Corner Checkers, Gothic Checkers) without first putting in the Checker variants of the World like, Italian Checkers, 10x10 International, Spanish Checkers, Pool Checkers, 12x12 Canadian, Russian, Brazilian....

I think the checker players at Brainking would love for those variants to be added...ESPECIALLY Italian Checkers for I've noticed a lot of Italians that play here. Players from all over the world play here and I'm sure they would love to play these variants.

5. října 2005, 06:22:33
nobleheart 
Subjekt: Re: Checkers
SOCRATES: re :I found it shocking that Brainking has all these unknown variants of Checkers
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answer
I for one am glad BK has unique,uncommon variants.that is what makes it special.
so many games sites are clones,same games.
anyone else feel this way? please speak up!!

5. října 2005, 07:22:20
Fencer 
Subjekt: Re: Checkers
SOCRATES: I plan to add them.

5. října 2005, 10:18:05
Expired 
Subjekt: Re: Checkers
nobleheart: I as one, am very glad BK has Dark Chess and Cylinder Chess and Berolina Chess and Chinese Chess. They're great. I thank you Fencer.

5. října 2005, 13:23:57
lukulus 
Subjekt: Re: Checkers
reza: You forgot best one - loop chess:)

5. října 2005, 13:25:39
Expired 
Subjekt: Re: Checkers
lukulus: Sorry!

5. října 2005, 13:34:59
lukulus 
Subjekt: Re: Checkers
reza: no problem

5. října 2005, 23:26:30
Anencephal 
I had plans to learn some games, but now I don't have time to experince all of new and old games
And more is comming

6. října 2005, 06:52:14
BlitzMe 
Subjekt: Re: Checkers
Fencer: I think you should HIGHLY consider a new checkers variant. It is played on a 7x7 board with 7 pieces on each side. 3 pieces would be played on the backrow and 4 pieces on the 2nd row of both sides. The rules are the same as American Checkers. This game is very difficult and more perfect moves are needed to win. It could be called Bajan Checkers :) I would love this game to be added here and I'm sure others would love it too.

6. října 2005, 14:07:26
AbigailII 
Subjekt: Mancala games.
Mancala games are a class of old and well-known games. Many variants are played in Asia and Africa. It might be interesting to see them on Brainking as well.

Advantages:

  • The rules are simple, not only does that mean it's easy for players to learn, it also means that it's relatively easily to program.
  • Unlike yet another chess variant (don't read this as a complaint against chess variants...), it adds a totally new game.
  • There are many variants, all with similar rules. So once a frame work for "sowing games" has been set up, the number of games available on Brainking can be increased quickly.
  • It may attract a new set of players (next to the chess, checkers, backgammon, pente, lines, and army types...)
  • The games have been played for a long time, and by many players, so they are probably quite enjoyable.


Disadvantages:

  • If Fencer starts implementing yet another game, it takes even more time before there's a doubling cube in backgammon. ;-)

6. října 2005, 15:42:29
grenv 
Subjekt: Re: Mancala games.
AbigailII: I like Mancala as well. I second the nomination.

6. října 2005, 20:32:45
WhiteTower 
Subjekt: Re: Mancala games.
AbigailII: About the possible delay in cube introduction, well, we're still waiting on Fencer's declaration of progress on the matter :) Until now, we know that it is "in development", but how far?... (I personally wouldn't be interested, as I hate the cube, but progress reports would interest a LOT of others)

7. října 2005, 11:40:01
Mirjam 
I would like Mancala games as well, these are the only games in which I can beat my husband-to-be:)

7. října 2005, 11:52:11
Baked Alaskan 
Subjekt: Mancala
Awesome Game

7. října 2005, 11:53:39
bumble 
Subjekt: Re: Mancala games.
AbigailII: Mancala has been requested several times in the past.

7. října 2005, 12:22:55
WhiteTower 
Subjekt: Re: Mancala games.
bumble: Like Greek Backgammon, rignt? ;)

7. října 2005, 20:17:45
MagicDragon 
Subjekt: Card Games
I know I posted this on a different board. Is there in the near or possible long term future that you'll add at least 1 card game? Not sure which kind of card game tho myself, LOL

8. října 2005, 11:03:26
Mirjam 
People told me bridge is an interesting game. The luck factor is not very high, a even when you have all the luck, you cannot beat a prof. But here in the Netherlands the game isn't allowed under the age of 50 ;)

8. října 2005, 11:59:51
WhiteTower 
Subjekt: Re:
Mirjam: Legally not allowed or just not recommended due to the high brain power and patience required and not available to younger people? :)

8. října 2005, 12:45:45
MagicDragon 
I love playing Gin but never played Bridge before

8. října 2005, 13:16:17
Nirvana 
Subjekt: Re:
MagicDragon:

my stepfather taught me bridge as a child. MSN have it on their online games.

Mancala is a good game, as are ataxx and abilone.

8. října 2005, 14:31:37
BlitzMe 
Subjekt: Checkers
I really hope Fencer considers adding the 7x7 Checkers variation!!!!!!!!

8. října 2005, 19:22:57
Walter Montego 
Subjekt: Profile Update Notification --Feature Request
Změněno uživatelem Walter Montego (8. října 2005, 19:23:55)
I'd like to know when someone has updated their profile. Maybe Fencer could add a mark or icon to someone's handle when I haven't ever read their profile or when the person has updated it. One of my long time opponents changed his profile to reflect something that happened in his life, but I had no reason to re-read his profile. If I was aware of an update, I'd be more inclined to browse someone's proflie and stay current.

9. října 2005, 00:57:23
Pioneer54 
Subjekt: Checker variants
Some time ago, "International Checkers" was listed here as an item being developed, but then it disappeared. It is a good game, a bit tedious in the opening, but then fascinating positions occur because of strategic subtleties, the forward and rearward jumping, and long range of the Kings. Is this idea still being considered as an addition?

9. října 2005, 01:08:25
Pioneer54 
Subjekt: Re: Checker variants
Another good idea that might be considered is CHESKERS, which is a checker variant that combines some elements of chess. Here is a brief description of the rules:

A standard checker set is used, and the rear row of men (on each side) is replaced by (from left to right, in each player's view) a chess Bishop, a checker King, a checker King, and a "Camel" (represented by a chess Knight) which moves three spaces horizontally or vertically, followed by one space at a right angle, for example from e1 to f4. Opposing Bishops are at corners of the board's longest diagonal.

Jumping is compulsory, as in checkers, but capturing (by displacement, as in chess) with the Bishop or Camel is optional. Given a choice of jumping or making a capture, one must by made. Men reaching the last rank can promote to King, Bishop, or Camel. The object of the game is to capture the opponent's Kings.

9. října 2005, 02:27:18
Thad 
Subjekt: Feature Request Board AND Game Request Board
Could we get a separate board for game requests?

9. října 2005, 02:28:51
rod03801 
But games ARE the features of brainking.....

9. října 2005, 03:00:10
tinksbell 
Subjekt: Re: Feature Request Board AND Game Request Board
Thad: I think that is a GREAT idea.

9. října 2005, 03:01:11
grenv 
Subjekt: Re:
rod03801: lol. Nice catch.

9. října 2005, 08:00:00
Fencer 
Subjekt: Re: Checker variants
Pioneer54: Yes.

9. října 2005, 15:14:13
Czuch 
Subjekt: Re: Profile Update Notification --Feature Request
Walter Montego: I love that idea.... maybe it could work like when there are new messages in a discussion board that we have on our favorites list, but maybe for anyone on our friends list, to show when their profile has not been read or has been updated.

11. října 2005, 18:15:00
Luke Skywalker 
Subjekt: training games
I'd like to see the possibiliby of training games. A training game would have the following properties:
- unrated and untimed
- can be played against oneself
- can be deleted
- can takeback moves
- can manipulate dice in backgammon
- dark games should still be dark, because the opponent can tell parts of the position if this is needed.

11. října 2005, 18:26:14
ColonelCrockett 
Subjekt: Re: training games
Luke Skywalker: interesting concept but if you can takeback moves doesn't that defeat the whole "dark" concept? (you can miss and simply takeback)

11. října 2005, 18:31:54
Luke Skywalker 
Subjekt: Re: training games
ColonelCrockett: yes, but the whole concept of a training game is that you can go back and forth through the game with your opponent (partner, teacher) and analyze the game.

11. října 2005, 18:33:09
BlitzMe 
Subjekt: 7x7 Checkers
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11. října 2005, 18:36:35
Fencer 
Subjekt: Re: 7x7 Checkers
SOCRATES: No number of exclamation marks can make it faster.

11. října 2005, 18:48:49
BlitzMe 
I just want to know if it is possible :)

11. října 2005, 18:49:14
BlitzMe 
possible that BK will have it eventually :) as soon as 6 months?

11. října 2005, 18:51:50
Fencer 
Everything is possible.

11. října 2005, 18:54:00
Luke Skywalker 
Subjekt: everything ...
Fencer, could you give us an update on the improved tournament system that is in development?

11. října 2005, 18:56:11
Fencer 
Subjekt: Re: everything ...
Luke Skywalker: No, I cannot.

11. října 2005, 18:59:50
grenv 
Subjekt: Re: everything ...
Fencer: LOL. First "Everything is possible". Followed quickly by "I cannot".

Did you mean "I will not" ?

11. října 2005, 19:04:15
Fencer 
Subjekt: Re: everything ...
grenv: No, it means that I am working on other things which are more important and I don't like to talk about a progress when I don't want to. That's why I left all my other jobs because I am the worst type of an employee and now I do only what I want to do and the only person I really have to show a progress to is myself!

11. října 2005, 20:04:39
WhiteTower 
Subjekt: Re: everything ...
Fencer: Then I suppose the moderators should remove the items on which you are not working from the Features In Development list at the top... and maybe put the ones that are being developed? :)

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