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Sam has closed his piano and gone to bed ... now we can talk about the real stuff of life ... love, liberty and games such as
Janus, Capablanca Random, Embassy Chess & the odd mention of other 10x8 variants is welcome too


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- invitations to games (you can also use the New Game menu or for particular games: Janus; Capablanca Random; or Embassy)
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... speculation on who has an advantage or the benefits of potential moves is not permitted while that particular game is in progress)
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4. srpna 2004, 16:26:49
danoschek 
Subjekt: tiebreaker blitz
Změněno uživatelem danoschek (4. srpna 2004, 16:27:10)
is first two games in 5 mins, then two 4 mins per game,
and so on down to one min per game - already the sound is frightening :P ~*~

4. srpna 2004, 16:29:39
bwildman 
what happens if theres no checkmate?

4. srpna 2004, 16:33:29
danoschek 
Subjekt: whose time falls first loses
Změněno uživatelem danoschek (4. srpna 2004, 16:34:21)
and the opponent has to notice himself
all offered help from 3rd sides is a cheat as always.
we used to value it as draw if both times are run out when it's noticed. ~*~

4. srpna 2004, 16:40:35
bwildman 
so the total game ..from start to finish...is 5 to 1 minutes long?

4. srpna 2004, 16:43:59
danoschek 
Subjekt: click - ratsch - clickclack ratsch
Změněno uživatelem danoschek (4. srpna 2004, 16:47:16)
you said it - training the blitz-castling is recommended then. ~*~

4. srpna 2004, 16:46:22
Grim Reaper 
we play 2 minute games at Doylestown for beers :) if you do good you can get a free 6-pack in no time :)

4. srpna 2004, 16:50:38
rabbitoid 
Subjekt: now THAT's a good idea!
after a couple of wins I'm sure the game evens itself out :)

4. srpna 2004, 16:57:21
BuilderQ 
Subjekt: Re: ratings suck
Redsales: If you're refering to your games in the "For the honest,and friendly,not cheating. (Atomic Chess)" tournament, observe its description: "Unrated games (no BKR will be affected by this tournament): yes"

Let's not confuse unrated games with the real problems with the rating system. :) And I don't see how simple win percentages reveal much about a player's skill.

4. srpna 2004, 17:19:40
Caissus 
Subjekt: Re:
Bwildman, you can download a testversion (30 days) on www.playchess.com and look there.
It is very interesting if you have never seen such fast games before.!

4. srpna 2004, 17:49:28
redsales 
Builder, thanks, I didn't notice that! No wonder. If you don't see how win %ages reveal skill, you need look no further than loop and gothic, seeing the top two players. A win % from a large sample size such as ughaibu and Ed Trice tell me much more than prov ratings based on 4-6 games...sure, the provs may be as good or better, but they haven't really proven it. Statistically it's much easier to get a high rating on BK from a small amount of games.

4. srpna 2004, 17:56:37
BuilderQ 
If I had played all my games of loop and gothic against ughaibu and Trice respectively I expect my winning percentages would be lower, without my skill being reduced.

As it happens, my games of 3 checks chess against ughaibu seem to have given me a high rating despite my losing both.

4. srpna 2004, 18:03:11
redsales 
Subjekt: yes, ugh and trice are rating boons...
but i meant large sample size against different players, not just playing against the same player...that shows a wider skill base. I know of some false accounts of BK that were created to get to the top precisely by that method of playing against the top guys in their first games.

4. srpna 2004, 18:08:25
Grim Reaper 
its funny how some players are referred to by the BrainKing name and others by their last name. Hmmmm.

4. srpna 2004, 18:12:23
coan.net 
Well if a user changes their username often, it is sometimes easier to use a common name like thier last name.

4. srpna 2004, 18:17:54
Grim Reaper 
it has been going on long before my name change.

4. srpna 2004, 18:19:35
coan.net 
I remember it starting around the time you switched to ...Inventor, from whatever else it was. But that has been awhile, so you would know better than I do.

4. srpna 2004, 18:19:42
Grim Reaper 
Subjekt: For example...
...the very first page of this DB:


Felix (1486) Personal to GothicChessPro 21. March 2003, 19:51:22
Dear Mr. Edward Trice,

4. srpna 2004, 18:21:53
redsales 
Subjekt: previously
i referred to you as GI until you relocated to Vanuatu...

4. srpna 2004, 18:23:17
Grim Reaper 
well, take Danoschek for example. His name is Johan Buttox and you don't see any of us calling him by his Anglo equiavlent name, Jack Ass.

4. srpna 2004, 18:51:05
bwildman 
perhaps you prefer to be called "Richard Cranium" ? LOL:)

4. srpna 2004, 18:54:02
Stevie 
LMAO

4. srpna 2004, 18:56:17
danoschek 
Subjekt: well don't let us take quousque tandem as example
Změněno uživatelem danoschek (4. srpna 2004, 18:57:47)
and the world will be better, for sure ...
too many dead hamsters in spinning wheels, yano ~*~

4. srpna 2004, 20:02:31
BuilderQ 
Subjekt: It must be like those EarthSea novels
where knowing a person's true name is dangerous.

4. srpna 2004, 20:07:19
danoschek 
Subjekt: persons
who dare name true are dangerous too ... 0:) ... ~*~

4. srpna 2004, 20:39:19
Grim Reaper 
ok Mr. Buttox

4. srpna 2004, 21:10:35
danoschek 
Subjekt: gothic
Změněno uživatelem danoschek (4. srpna 2004, 21:12:07)
how little respect some people have even for the reward of their own name *grin* ~*~
btw
the whole humbug was saved of course and is available at the known reliable source

4. srpna 2004, 21:26:36
Grim Reaper 
ok Mr. Buttox

4. srpna 2004, 21:28:13
danoschek 
Subjekt: yawn
Maledicta homine docto indigna esse videntur ~*~

4. srpna 2004, 21:30:27
bwildman 
well Dano...its kinda good to see our dear dear friend,Richard Cranium,aka..Gothic Chess Pro,aka..Gothic Inventor,aka..I dont know how to pronounce that....has somewhat a sense of humor! LOL:)

4. srpna 2004, 21:31:43
danoschek 
Subjekt: oh senses - fancy
Změněno uživatelem danoschek (4. srpna 2004, 21:39:51)
I sensed just that it's time for spammocrap noise alert ...
- and it's kwoh-ISS-kweh ... ( until when ) ... ~*~

4. srpna 2004, 21:39:29
Purple 
Subjekt: Re: oh senses - fancy
Unless you birds are fueding over a broad how can this be important? You are both invited to check into the Purple Rehab Center. TWELVE steps. :)

4. srpna 2004, 21:40:12
danoschek 
Subjekt: Purple Kebab Center
yes - you already look toasted again ~*~

4. srpna 2004, 21:57:13
bwildman 
Subjekt: *slaps pimple in the face with a glove*
I challange you to a game of gothic chess!!

4. srpna 2004, 21:59:56
Purple 
Subjekt: Re: *slaps pimple in the face with a glove*
I only play real men's games. I challenge (note correct spelling) to checkers, Halma8 or Five in a line.

4. srpna 2004, 22:03:00
bwildman 
Subjekt: Re: *slaps pimple in the face with a glove*
are you trying to say Gothic Chess isnt a mans game?
are ya scared???

4. srpna 2004, 22:06:56
bwildman 
Subjekt: Re: *slaps pimple in the face with a glove*
dang...2 invitations declined...guess he's just scared:(

4. srpna 2004, 23:01:28
Purple 
Subjekt: Sowwy Shorty
I don't play tiddily winks, jacks, jump rope, house or any chess games. I might however play doctor under the right circumstances, :)

4. srpna 2004, 23:59:44
Grim Reaper 
Subjekt: Checkers is almost solved
Click on this link at the University of Alberta for more information.

And yes, that is my name there for helping out with that project.

5. srpna 2004, 00:03:10
Purple 
Subjekt: Re: Checkers is almost solved
That is incredible. A lot of work.

5. srpna 2004, 00:12:13
danoschek 
Subjekt: yup, KM
even not the worst have a good income by pushing buttons under robo-command ~*~

5. srpna 2004, 01:18:07
ScarletRose 
Subjekt: Re:
Oh... he has always had that sense of humor.. just no one ever cared to notice.. too concerned with the challenge!

5. srpna 2004, 01:20:40
ScarletRose 
Subjekt: Re: Sowwy Shorty
Změněno uživatelem ScarletRose (5. srpna 2004, 01:29:13)
Well I will be the head nurse!! LMCAO!!

Sorry, couldn't pass that up!!

So.. what would you consider to be the stronger of the two.. the Archbishop or the Chancellor? and Why??

5. srpna 2004, 02:11:32
Grim Reaper 
Subjekt: Re: Sowwy Shorty
Změněno uživatelem Grim Reaper (5. srpna 2004, 02:12:29)
It depends. If my opponent has a Chancellor and I have an Archbishop, then the Archbishop is stronger. If I have a Chancellor and my opponent has an Archbishop, then the Chancellor is stronger :)

Look at the last game between ChessCarpenter and I. He snagged my Chancellor earlier, leaving me with just an Archbishop, but I felt I had the greater attacking chances.

The Archbishop is, in general, weaker than the Chancellor, but the question is, by how much? Would you trade Archbishop + Pawn for a Chancellor? How about Archibshop + Knight for Chancellor and 2 pawns?

See it gets complicated!

Even stranger is Archbishop + Rook vs. Chancellor and Bishop! These are made of the "same pieces" once you decompartmentalize them (Rook + Bishop + Knight) but I think the Chancellor + Bishop is stronger since you can have a "Chancellor's Vortex" occur with this piece combination.

See this paper for a complete discussion on the derivation of the piece values.

5. srpna 2004, 02:16:47
Purple 
Subjekt: Re: Sowwy Shorty
Shouldn't a person be of at least average ability at regular chess before they took up Gothic?

5. srpna 2004, 02:21:33
Grim Reaper 
Změněno uživatelem Grim Reaper (5. srpna 2004, 02:22:16)
While I was giving a 20 board simul in Kansas City in 2001, I lost one game to an 11-year old participant in the Supernationals-2 National chess tournament.

At the end of the game, I asked him his rating. I was surprised when he said it was 1340 or something like that.

I allowed a skewer of my Chancellor and Queen, loosing the C for just a Bishop. I was embarrassed by this miscue, and thought I could surely trick this youngster and recover.

No chance.

So, I would have to say this singular example demonstrates players of any strength can pull off amazing wins.

Most tournament players are "booked up" in chess. You are not playing them, you are playing every master game they have studied and incorporated into their repotoire.

Gothic Chess levels that playing field. The truly talented players shine in Gothic, even if their ratings are held back due to battling so many "bookworms".

5. srpna 2004, 02:52:22
bwildman 
Subjekt: Re: *slaps pimple in the face with a glove*
I guess that just demonstrates that anyone can have a "bad hair day" ;)

5. srpna 2004, 02:52:26
redsales 
Subjekt: Goth vs. Janus
i'm curious, and maybe Caissus can answer this too, is there a large "book" for Janus? I'm assuming the game has been around for awhile, and in fact it seems gothic chess is loosely based on it, with the Janus and board size and all. Not to mention Janus is German chess and Goth means German. How popular is Janus in Germany? Could you give a ratio of normal chess to Janus tournaments or clubs? And how long has it taken to acuqire that status. How long before Gothic chess can achieve a similar ratio in N. America?

5. srpna 2004, 02:56:29
Purple 
Subjekt: Re: *slaps pimple in the face with a glove*
Bad hair is often covered up by hoakie looking hat designed to also make dwarf look taller.

5. srpna 2004, 02:57:36
bwildman 
Subjekt: Re: Goth vs. Janus
redsales...I'm no expert...but Janus is actually a 2faced God.the brainking dog(?) is just an easy facsimile:)

5. srpna 2004, 03:00:53
Purple 
Subjekt: Gothic Chess
I just read the rules. My head is spinning.

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