435152: I never said I could tell the difference between a person's good move and a computer's ... just that you couldn't.

You said "no world champion will come to this site, no GM , even a good player won't play here." ... this is plainly wrong ... masters play on any number of sites. Why wouldn't they play here?

lastly, computers don't beat humans consistently in chess. Winning a single game is not the same as beating an entire species. Any computer can beat my grandmother ... does that mean computers are better? The last organized matches between GMs and computers were gross mismatches (GM Jaan and GM Milov got their heads handed to them ... neither has been active in top chess)

Clandestine 1: "it speaks to their character." most definitely agreed!

One game which is so far impossible to cheat at is Jungle and the variant I co-created - Big Jungle. All computers play the game poorly and lose quickly to the best humans (as the best I can say that with confidence).

ColonelCrockett: This whole thing about not knowing what your opponent is doing when playing on the internet is why I like Dark Chess! The board is dark for everyone except the two players, so this makes getting outside help harder. The type of thinking needed to play it well is very hard for computer programmers. Though seeing how they've figured out Poker and Contract Bridge, I'd say this is not the case any more. Which leaves it to the fact that Dark Chess is under the programmer's radar for the time being and I can still beat the computers, few that play it that is. Them machines are getting smarter everyday. It's just a matter of time before they start thinking at their own direction and initiative. Then I'm sure self awareness will be right behind that day. Will it be Terminator 2 or something good for humanity? That's the question I think we'll face soon.

Walter Montego: I agree. I also think that what is true of dark chess is true of jungle ... under the radar.