BrainKing - Diskusní kluby (Chess variants (8x8))

This is a win in 3 for white I think. I won't say how though :)

18. srpna 2004, 09:25:44

we call it Siamese Chess with 2 players

19. srpna 2004, 02:47:50

WakeUpPeople

Subjekt: some bug

I was browsing some boards and wanted to look at that game, then wanted to look at the opening and I can see only empty board when trying to go backward to plies 33 and prior (whites 17th move). May be it has something to do with the way Fencer stores game data in the database, may be he just allocated too small space for atomic chess games expecting them to be fast. (when I wrote this last ply index was 107)

19. srpna 2004, 02:49:07

WakeUpPeople

heh, wrong idea, the moves obviously are in database, just game browser somehow cant cope with that, I go get some sleep better :)

19. srpna 2004, 03:12:17

Actually i think the data does dissappear from the database. Not sure why, but this happens for virtually every game.

19. srpna 2004, 04:34:05

PowerPygmie

Subjekt: Huh

And all this time, I thought Chess was a Bughouse variation...

19. srpna 2004, 04:41:45

ughaibu

It's quite different from bughouse as the pieces remain constant unless there are promotions.

30. srpna 2004, 14:17:38

No castling is allowed in this game. I will fix the rules ASAP.

19. září 2004, 20:13:40

[Del]

Subjekt: Problem

I have got a small problem.
White: Ke1; Qd2
Black: Kc3
Black to move.
So what do you think? Is it Patt?

19. září 2004, 21:35:00

Subjekt: Re: Problem

Since the black king can get close to the white king, and just chase him around from then on (preventing the queen from blowing him up because the white king would go in the process)... I think it's a draw.

19. září 2004, 21:37:28

In this particular position white wins since black cannot move next to the white king on this turn.
e.g.
... Kc4
Qd3 Kc5 etc...

19. září 2004, 23:10:37

Subjekt: Sorry

... somehow, on the my diagram I had placed the queen at d1 and not d2 as BFG stated. I must agree with grenv then. Sorry for the confusion.

19. září 2004, 23:21:22

[Del]

Subjekt: addition to Problem

Well, I think a different way. If the black king would beat the white queen, both kings would be removed. So for me it's a special constelation, in which the King could beat a figur. Im not sure if the king isn't allowed to beat a figur, because he would be also removed, or he isn't able to beat.

Are there any official rules of atomic?

19. září 2004, 23:53:58

official rules? who knows if there are any. What would make them official?

I didn't understand what beating a figur is, but the king cannot capture anything on this site, therefore white wins.

You could create a rule that says if both kings are exploded it's a draw, but that isn't the case here.

20. září 2004, 00:04:56

[Del]

Subjekt: Re:

Well, both Kings would explode if the black King would capture (sorry, I didn't remember) the white Queen

20. září 2004, 00:11:01

As I said, on this site that is impossible, KxQ would not be allowed.

The only rule that seems different at other sites is stalemate, which is impossible here. Anyway this wouldn't come under that category.

21. září 2004, 10:45:18

stalemate is possible, though unlikely. Eg white king on b2, Black king on a2, queen on b1, another queen somewhere. White to move, if white moves to a1 and black moves the other queen to b2, white is stalemated. Black would have to be pretty dense to do that though!

21. září 2004, 14:58:48

There is no stalemate in Atomic Chess on this site. In your example white would be forced to move into check.

21. září 2004, 18:21:26

but white can't physically move..! how would that work then? auto pass? :)

21. září 2004, 18:44:02

oops, sorry. You're right I didn't look carefully enough at your numbers. This should be stalemate, but who knows how it would work.

23. září 2004, 02:43:11

wanna try in an unrated game? :)

26. září 2004, 14:14:19

WhisperzQ

White deserves a draw for stupidity on the part of black LOL

26. září 2004, 23:19:39

Změněno uživatelem coan.net (27. září 2004, 00:33:53)

Quick question - if I DO NOT put the Maharajah piece into check, and they (Maharajah piece) DOES NOT have any valid moves - is it a win for me, or a draw?

*Edited to add "Maharajah piece" next to they

27. září 2004, 00:25:51

when you mean they: the black or the white?
If the white can't move I think it's stalemate. So a draw.
If the black can't move... can this even happen?

27. září 2004, 00:37:23

Sorry, thought it was clear. Edited previous message to add "(Maharajah piece)" next to they so hopefully it would be more clear.

27. září 2004, 02:49:54

Subjekt: Capture question

A pawn can go two spaces diagonally on it's first move.

Can it capture a piece doing this?

For example if white had a piece on E5, could black take a pawn from G7 to capture the piece on E5?

27. září 2004, 04:31:09

ArnieTxx

Subjekt: Re: Capture question

Pawns in Berolina Chess only capture vertically.
A 2-square diagonal move by one of them the first
time it moves cannot be a capture.

27. září 2004, 06:29:52

Změněno uživatelem Kevin (27. září 2004, 06:30:07)

sure - black can't move if only two pieces are on the board:

black King on A1
white Majarajah on B3

black to move.

27. září 2004, 06:31:12

It says in the rules: "...the game is finished if the Maharajah or the king is in a checkmate, one player is in a stalemate, etc."

27. září 2004, 12:29:34

Chessmaster1000

Subjekt: Re:

Změněno uživatelem Chessmaster1000 (27. září 2004, 12:31:03)

<>It says in the rules: "...the game is finished if the Maharajah or the king is in a checkmate, >one player is in a stalemate, etc."

OK the game is finished but how??? With what result? Your copied text is incomplete and incapable of explaining the compete rules. You should have added:

The game is finished WITH THE SAME RESULT AS IN CHESS if the Maharajah or the king is in a checkmate, one player is in a stalemate, etc.

27. září 2004, 19:02:29

Pafl

It is actually a good strategy for white to try and get "into" the black's position, hoping for a stalemate :-)

27. září 2004, 21:07:23

"black King on A1
white Majarajah on B3

black to move."

This isn't stalemate... White just checkmated black by placing the maharajah at that position. So it's not black's turn: a win as already been accomplished.

28. září 2004, 05:58:29

Whoops - I meant maharajah on B4 :-)

1. října 2004, 02:04:59

BuilderQ

Subjekt: Amazon is H?

Why, in the notation, is an amazon represented by a letter "H"?

1. října 2004, 10:40:53

Eeeew, it should be something else. A, maybe?

1. října 2004, 17:35:56

Bobes

Subjekt: Tournament final

I play final match in the tournament and it's 3 wins match. I started with black ... so this is, teoretically, loss for me. Is there way how to solve this problem?

1. října 2004, 17:54:08

Win or draw as black? :-)

2. října 2004, 07:18:06

CardinalFlight

How about Z for amazon?

2. října 2004, 07:24:53

A is Archbishop in Gothic Chess. I think there should be some distinction between them, considering they move differently...

3. října 2004, 10:23:20

i like Z too

3. října 2004, 17:18:25

Do you know what would be a more fun "Maharajah" chess game?

Cylinder Maharajah Chess :-)

4. října 2004, 12:13:12

Is it better now?

5. října 2004, 04:34:46

Yes :-)

5. října 2004, 12:22:01

rabbitoid

Subjekt: loop chess tournament

Any interrest in loop chess? a tournament will start next monday, provided enough people show up... click here

8. října 2004, 00:56:10

BuilderQ

Maybe Berolina Pawns should not look the same as regular pawns?

8. října 2004, 08:06:36

Hrqls

Subjekt: pawn promotion

when a pawn reaches the other side of the board .. is it allowed to promote it to a pawn again ?

is this allowed with the last pawn on the board ?
would you lose if you promote your last pawn to a pawn ? (in theory there might be a short period during the promotion in which you have no pawn left ?)

8. října 2004, 09:52:11

No.

8. října 2004, 09:53:43

Why not?

8. října 2004, 10:52:44

Hrqls

ok thanks :)

8. října 2004, 20:23:34

BuilderQ