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28. června 2004, 16:11:33
coan.net 
Subjekt: Fellowship
Amazing Amazons Fellowship - Fellowship dedicated to the game of Amazons. Tips have already been posted in that fellowship!

28. června 2004, 16:51:41
coan.net 
I will also accept any invites for Amazons if you want to try out a new games.

WARNING - I have played the game on other sites - but if you want, I'll play nice and try to give you tips along the way!

29. června 2004, 01:18:17
Backoff 
Ok start handing out the tips lol

29. června 2004, 02:49:29
The Hunter 
BBW, perhaps you'd like to play one with me? I'm dieing to try this game.

29. června 2004, 03:24:53
coan.net 
The Hunter - Just sent you an invite! (2 games - one of each color)

Note: I have never really checked, but I'm curious if white or black has the advantage.

29. června 2004, 20:19:11
Goonerg 
BBW I would like to take you up on your kind offer, do you want me to invite?

29. června 2004, 20:46:16
coan.net 
Sure - Just send the invite - I'll play! :-)

30. června 2004, 01:11:48
NOT a floosie 
Watch out! He's brutal!

30. června 2004, 17:31:26
The Hunter 
I love a challenge. and I'm betting this is going to be a real tuff challenge. @.@

3. července 2004, 19:47:08
Fencer 
I've found it in Abstract Games Magazine and it seemed to be interesting and easy to implement. So I did :-)

3. července 2004, 21:02:37
VikingX 
Subjekt: Yes,
interesting and very complex game.

4. července 2004, 05:40:18
Kevin 
That would assume all the squares are filled, which seems to almost never be the case.

7. července 2004, 10:21:25
plaintiger 
i like arrows. they're pointy.

7. července 2004, 10:22:32
Fencer 
What would you say to "Amazons Plus" variant? Similar to Battleboats Plus, you would be able to shoot more arrows per move.

7. července 2004, 10:46:13
Nightstorm 
It could be where you get a reverse shot when you shot your arrow. It would go the reverse direction of your shot, the same number of squares. Unless you were against a wall in which case it wouldn't allow the second shot. Would make you watch where your shooting at so you didn't block yourself in.

7. července 2004, 16:01:54
coan.net 
With multiply shots per turn, I think it would also fill up the board to quickly. Being able to move like a Knight is an interesting idea which would require a lot more thinking of the possible moves my oppenent has.

Other variant idea's that have been going on in my head:

1) Possible start with 4 "moats" randmly put on the board "moats act like an arrow"

2) Possible let piece "poll vault" over arrows in certain times (for example, if there is more then 5 spaces between piece and 1 arrow, that would be enough running room for the piece to jump the arrow.

3) Possible make "warp" points - maybe from corner to corner, or possible let a player have 1 "random" warp for any peice to any other place on the board (random place on the board)

4) Possible let each player have the possibility to use 2-3 "anti-arrows", which when shot at an arrow will make it disapear.

... again, just some ideas that have been going on in my head

7. července 2004, 21:20:39
The Hunter 
how about one with a bigger board and one more peice to use?

or how about one where you would choose the starting position of your peices?

just a tought or two.

7. července 2004, 21:58:35
coan.net 
Different sizes would be good - maybe a "mini game" with 2-3 pieces, or a "mega game" with 5 pieces.

Placing your own pieces is a cool idea - maybe do it "blindly" so you don't know where the opponents pieces are before you start - possible giving you a slight advantage/disadvantage.

Or my favorite idea of all (Same Idea I have for Battleboats!) - play the game on a "hex" type board. Of course on Battleboats, that give you an extra direction to place your piece, in Amazons that would actually take away 2 directions to move a piece.

7. července 2004, 22:24:28
Chaosu 
Subjekt: Another idea
Maybe i don't understan Nightstorm at all but maybe do shooting arrows like in Spider Line4? Arrow will go in direction that amazon choose, and stop at wall or another amazon ?

8. července 2004, 01:00:26
Nightstorm 
BBWs idea of blindly placing your pieces would be a pretty good idea. Could also do a multi shot game using only two amazons on each side and getting 2-3 shots per turn.

8. července 2004, 01:06:57
Stevie 
Subjekt: IMHO
a game that gives you two shots...will fill the board up quicker , but this is a good thing.

Youd have the choice of fast or slow games (1 shot or 2 shot variation)

I like the game alot even though only played since BK2 came online. But some players will not resign a game even when lost early. So the quick version, like BB+ or dark is a good option.

I will still play the normal mind you :o)

8. července 2004, 04:30:30
Nasmichael 
Could we use discs instead of arrows?

8. července 2004, 09:43:22
Jason 
yes i think a differnt size board could be good , more options to choose from .

8. července 2004, 10:51:01
Stevie 
do Amazons through discs then? LOL

8. července 2004, 16:06:03
coan.net 
... think of it as fire arrows - when they hit the spot where the land, the fire spreads into this perfect disc-shaped fire spot where the other player can't move into. (Plus easier to see then a small black arrow) :-)

8. července 2004, 19:15:50
Stevie 
I thought the arrows were easy enough to see :o) Not much diference in size to the queens themselves

8. července 2004, 20:07:39
CardinalFlight 
There could be a spot of water on the board where you can fire over, but you can't cross.

Being able to fire two arrows or more in one turn would make it much easier to trap a piece. That might be okay if the piece had some drawbacks too, for instance a rook piece being able to fire 2 arrows in a turn.

What about having the two other gothic chess pieces in the game too, but the knights would not be able to jump. Only if they can make their 1-2 or 2-1 with a clear path they can move that way.

8. července 2004, 22:13:04
coan.net 
Water - I like that idea - possible like the 4 middle squares be water, which you would use to help make your border, but have to be carefull because the other person can fire over it.

I still don't knoe if I like the idea of a piece shotting 2 arrows. It would make for quicker games, but I would think the first person to move could get a good advantage with that extra shot.

8. července 2004, 22:15:38
Stevie 
4 middle as water would be good :o)

8. července 2004, 22:43:18
CardinalFlight 
I'm thinking the water should be random each game to make it different. Maybe the water spaces should be within the middle 4x4 squares

9. července 2004, 16:01:14
coan.net 
First Finished Amazons Tournament - H E R E

Congrats to the winner of that tournament, BIG BAD WOLF! :-)

OK, sorry - had to gloat a little since I've already seen a couple people who I think are better then me, plus as soon as more people learn to play the game... I quickly move back down the ranks! :-)

9. července 2004, 19:26:25
coan.net 
Subjekt: Variant Idea
Another idea would be some sort of "Dark Amazon" game - that is where you can not see the other players piece unless you in the same row/colum/diagnal - and there are not arrows between you and him.

You can see the whole board, and where current arrows are at (and last shot arrow), but only the other players piece is hidden (unless it is in view)

So you would add an extra step to the game. Step 1, move your piece and SUBMIT/COMMIT to having your piece there. At that point, you would be able to see what is in view so you will then know where to shot your arrow.

9. července 2004, 21:59:36
Fencer 
Similar to Dark Chess?

9. července 2004, 22:06:24
The Hunter 
how would you know if you won?

9. července 2004, 22:31:58
Fencer 
BrainKing would notify you.

10. července 2004, 01:30:02
Stevie 
I dont think dark would be a very nice variation

10. července 2004, 16:50:17
Stevie 
I notice in the stats there are a couple of draws showing.

The way I figure it, there is no way there can be a draw, because there is always going to be a player able to do the last move. And that would be Black.

I would understand though if two players have enjoyed a game so much and its a down to the wire type of game. :o)

10. července 2004, 19:05:22
coan.net 
I haven't looked at the games, but it could have been a case of either 2 friends just trying the game (and did a draw since it was a "test" game), or they might not have really figured out the game and decided to draw.

Same as backgammon - not ever a draw, but at times there are situations where people may accept a draw.

11. července 2004, 19:03:44
The Hunter 
Změněno uživatelem The Hunter (11. července 2004, 19:04:31)
I don't know, thinking of it reminds me of the first time I played silent hill and was too afraid to turn the corner because I thought a monster was there when it was actually safe. maybe a few test games will prove if it would be a good variation to try. just seems so difficult.

15. července 2004, 02:18:59
Czuch 
I am in my first couple of games. I like the idea of a disc instaed of an arrow. I also find the game is quite complicated enough, and so many amateurs as to not need to be talking about more complicated variants quite yet :)

21. července 2004, 11:03:33
redsales 
GI, how do you know they are the same person?

21. července 2004, 16:14:07
coan.net 
Well if you want to get technical, the new user agreement offically was in place on July 18th - the game in question was completed before that, on July 14th.

I would also appricate if personal comments about another player (no matter how annoying the person may or may not be) should be kept off the public boards - with any suspicion of cheating or rating manipulation should be handled directly by Fencer, and not the public boards. Thanks.

21. července 2004, 16:31:50
coan.net 
First, i don't always agree with what other users post in other board, and I don't believe I have ever posted out of line about anyone (including you) without having a specific reason to reply - And if I did, I appoligize.

I'm sure our feeling toward each others are about the same, but public message boards on this great game site is not the place to hash those out (like we have done in the past.)

I never like to see negative comments on public boards about ANYONE, even if I believe they are true.

As a user, I appricate knowing who may have multiple accounts since I like to watch myself to make sure the site isn't being cheated (which hurts everyone.)

21. července 2004, 17:04:43
redsales 
i noticed that 'fallen' thing myself...i guess the only way to find out is if Fencer tracks the IPs and/or machine IDs...

24. července 2004, 07:12:02
Nellaf 
Subjekt: Re:
I am not Danoschek and he is not me. Nellaf is a sort of play on words, you are correct only on this. The rest of your comments are yours to deal with. Fencer knows who I am that is why nothing has or will be done.

26. července 2004, 05:11:07
plaintiger 
Změněno uživatelem plaintiger (26. července 2004, 05:11:35)
just as an impartial observer, i offer that this leaves open the question of why someone with whom GothicInventor has neither played nor spoken would put him on their Enemies list... ;)

3. srpna 2004, 20:56:54
pijon 
Subjekt: About the end of Amazons Games
When territories belonging to the two players are closed, it is possible to know who won by counting the number of squares which remain free.
Nevertheless, I notice that certain players who are losing, continue to play instead of resigning itself.
What you think of it?

3. srpna 2004, 21:01:17
Stevie 
I prefer players to count and resign, I myself count and then say good game etc and resign the following move

3. srpna 2004, 22:53:04
The Hunter 
i pray the opponent messes up lol

4. srpna 2004, 01:46:32
Flubber 
Subjekt: Re:
Same here. I know I don't make perfect moves.

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