Nothingness: No, if you already earned the achievements you 'll get them. Like capturing mines undetected pieces. But if the achievement requires you win the game ('rear of secrets' and 'first line hero') you won't earn the achievement if your opponent resigns... :(

im unsure what you mean about resigning? so if i achieve 5 things in a certain game and at the end my opp resigns i lose the ones i have already achieved? That makes no sense?

AbigailII: Don't expect me to continue a lost game just so my opponent can gain an archievement.

Exactly, that's why it's disappointing to me. I don't want to ask others to drag along agame just for the amusement I get of gaining an achievement.

dAGGER: do you really play to gain achievements?

I don't. I don't compromise my playing style in order to be able to gain an achievement. Or will I play games I otherwise wouldn't play.

Chaos: What is disappointing was that a game resigned by the opponent doesn't count as a win for an achievement.

Don't expect me to continue a lost game just so my opponent can gain an archievement.

Chaos: If you needs achievements, please write about it in the game.

dAGGER: I see the achievements as challenges. It's fun to try to win with a difficult set up.

What is disappointing was that a game resigned by the opponent doesn't count as a win for an achievement...

Guys,
do you really play to gain achievements?
I play to win, if I gain achievements, that's OK, but I don't mind much about them.

I found it. Thank you Nothingness & Chaos!

Sandoz: You can also go there by clicking on 'Achievements' behind your name (where it says how many you have), go to 'games' then 'espionage'. Then you'll see at once which ones you already have and what you have to do for the others.

go to achievements on the left then click the tab that says achievements then scroll down and Espionage is at the bottom.

Nothingness:

where did you find them??

i found them

how can i find the achievements? i cant find them until i have achieved them. so i dont know what to go for....

Chaos: Yes, I think the espionage achievements are good.

Notably the 'First Line Defence' and ' Rear of Secrets' are excellent, both encouraging a different line up and increased risk. Yes going for them, but won't tell you which games ;)

It will take time to get 100 mines, and like you, never target them (unless desperate ). Even now, I still have to get the 'Successful Sapper.'

Have a count of 7 out of 100 on capturing undetected pieces, so nearly a tenth of the way there!

I have a few games in the waiting room. Anyone in for a game?

anyone else working hard to earn all espionage achievements? The 100 undetected pieces,and especially the 100 mines are quite a lot! Usually I don't go for the mines.

I found out that they have stratego on facebook. just pick a user name and play in less than 15 seconds. im on under gould55

ah,thx rod I didn't realise that.I'm sure monkey would welcome any new members

Celticjim: Just a reminder, only people in that fellowship can sign up for that tourney.

monkeys swinging madhouse tourny.
2 day limit-standard vacation
come sign up for a game of open fast
Madhouse 2009 - Week 19

dAGGER:

Good to hear from you. Let me know when you have time and I promise not to time-out. :)

Have fun,

Eric

happy hermit:
Sorry quiet man, I have too many games running at the moment. But I'd like to challenge you as soon as possible.
Please don't forget about this site!!!!
If you follow the thread of this board, you will see that the League is born again!
I hope to see you in next event......

Someone please send me a game invite before I forget about this site again. :)

anyone want to be moderator of this board? please send me a PM....

Hi. I made a tournament Easter Egg which includes Espionage games and so far it's half fill. It is an elimination for 16. 3 days + vacation. I would by glad if somebody sign up please. Thank you

I`m just a little disapointed! You see them online, but they don`t move (as they have so many other games to play).

Since its a tournament they should prefer OUR SABOTAGE GAME and not wait until the timelimit (3 day`s+VAC) is almost zero before they move.

Soon 2 of 4 tournament games are finished, while the others are on move 3. It`s there a round 2 and 3? Perhaps NEXT YEAR with this speed!

Chaos: Note that this is only an issue if you play with a Fisher clock setting if there's no (or a small) increment on each move. If you gain 24 hours or more on each move, the risk is much smaller (it still can give one player some advantage as one player may build up "spare time" more rapidly than the other though - but even this is a solved problem).

ca119: everyone can play 200 simultaneously

There are at least 2 players who play rather slow/when there close to the timelimit, as they play 200 and more games simultary. Thats pretty sad as others play fast (several moves a day). This will have an affect on the following games. Perhaps Fischer's clock with a timelimit of 2 months for a game would bee the thing?

Thank you to Chaos and Bosse for making this big tournament real.
Am I forgetting someone else?

Wow, it has started!
Everybody have fun!

You're welcome Bosse, it's thanks to you we've got this tournament in the firts place! It's great to see we've made such a good start straight away Can't wait to get my games started

Wow thats a lot of people!

Already 7 12 16 21 players have signed this tournament

Sabotage Leauge - Small Fast Espionage - #1

SL-Bosse: Yes, it's English now :) Oh, and we should all urge espionage players to join this tourney! notify all your (former) espionage opponents!

Chaos: I saw that the "sign-up" time was wrong. So I have deleted the first one, and have set up a new one.

Is it English now?

I joined the tournament, though I had to guess which link to click b/c my Swedish isn't that good. But since that click all content on the site is shown in Swedis to me!!! Are you trying to get us all into learning your language, Bosse? ;)

The Other Me: I like group play as well

SL-Bosse: I would prefer group play. At least I get to play a few games instead of just one. The 3 day limit with vacations seems fair. I am ok with any variant .

i never could understand that setting either!

Tian-Xian: I couldn't agree more!

I had lost in a tornament & asked Fencer but got no reply & so am stuck waiting for tournie to finish. I think it should be automatic that if you are out of a tournie you can join another.

SL-Bosse: small fast please?

OK so lets start a new tournament with 3-days limit and normal vaccation. Should it be round-robin/groups or elimination? Which type of game should we start with?

Nothingness: I agree with you.
I usually make more than 1 move per day, but sometimes it may happen to lose some days or even 1 week.
On IYT you can change your time limit, but only out of a tournament: this is one of the reasons that made the League successful.
I believe a 3-days limit with vacations on may work: the game would be fast enough and you can avoid problems depending on weekend days or holidays.
I think this is a good compromise for the first "gran slam" tournaments.

Several months ago I invited to a game all the high rated players I could see. To my suprise all gladly accepeted my challenge!. Many of these turned out to be very educational and I believe will make me a better player. Most of these good games lasted over two months. I currenty have a game , played at what I consider a reasonable pace, that has lasted over 5 months. Good game too. I would hate to have such a game in progress only to have one player time out.
I realize that a tournament may last for a long time, however I prefer completed games instead of games decided on a time limit or deadline for the game.