DragonKing:
Bien, très heureux d'avoir pu t'aider :-)

jolat: Ah Oui! Je comprends maintenant! Merci beaucuop! (Et, je crois que tu parle anglais bien!)

If I understood you well, you think that this file "book.bin" is a database of games which you can view with CSA shogi. If it is that, it does not have anything of it. "Book.bin" is a file which makes it possible the engine "Bonanza" to play the openings correctly.
When you play against SCA, it will answer instantaneously if the moves that you make in the opening are indexed in this file "book.bin".
I hope that I could render comprehensible me (excuse my approximate English: I am French:-)).

jolat: Yes I downloaded bookbin to the directory of csa- but how do I get those games to come up?

DragonKing:
I think that the database is used only for the rapid search for correct answer. Probably, developer knows the interior of this base, but does not give to rest the possibility of the survey of possible variants. But it would be very well to look they...

DragonKing:
Do you want to speak about the file "book.bin"?

In that post from Manabu- he mentions a file of games that Bonanza can play. Has anyone downloaded those games? I have Bonanza 1.2 with CSA 3.01 and XT 1.22- but when I downloaded the bin file I can't see how to bring up the games for Bonanza to play. Anyone know what I did wrong? Thanks!

niccar:
Moreover, we can obtain an update of the interface "CSA shogi" to
http://homepage3.nifty.com/floatinghome/
This new interface allows to turn the board and to play in choosing
handicaps.

jolat:
This morning Manabu Terao posted new information about Bonanza on shogi-l list at this address:
http://www.shogi.net/shogi-l/dir05/dirday1007/article051007031049.html

niccar:
Thank you very much!

jolat:
A new very strong program is Bonanza. You can find more information at this address:
http://forum.shogishop.de/viewtopic.php?t=22

Is this someone knows if it is possible to find a good program of
shogi in english and who can turn under Windows XP?
I know that there is "AI Shogi" and "Todai Shogi" but they are in Japanese.
In France, no salesman proposes some.

Spirou: Thanks for taking care, Spirou.As a matter of fact, I got the same reply from Kurnik:-)

takodori: Here is the webmaster's answer. Below is the question:

"Shogi is not officially launched yet. It's only in the japanese version of
Kurnik for testing purposes.

M.

On Sun, 2 Oct 2005, Paul Grosemans wrote:

> Dear Marek Futrega,
>
> I am new at your club.
>
> In my opinion it is not so amazing there are no shogi player, because this
> game is not mentionned in "select a game to play online:".
> I wonder how the person in another club, who told your club exists, may have
> fond your shogi section.
>
> The shogi design is very beautifull !
>
> I hope this could help to promote this marvellous game.
>
> Best regards,
> Paul Grosemans (GrosPaul)."

I created a new Shogi'S Tournament for beginners (NR and less of 1600).
Limit of registration: October 10
Please register you at
http://brainking.com/fr/Tournaments?trg=11553&tri=61537&trnst=0

If you click in the drop-down menu in top on the right, you
obtain already many translations of the site.
But it is true that for the
moment, I could not play, not having found any adversary, some is the selected languages (even in Japanese).

jolat: In order for more shogi players to get to know Kurnik, I think its toppage in English, French, and any other languages other than Japanese should display SHOGI in the list of games. I sent them a suggestion to do so.

I have just discovered that we can now play Shogi (in real time) on
Kurnik at
http://www.kurnik.org/intl/en/shogi/

I created a Shogi'S Tournament. Please register you at
http://brainking.com/fr/Tournaments?trg=11519&tri=61428&trnst=0

Today is the day for the 3rd game of the 53rd Ouza sen between Ouza Habu and Challenger Kisei Sato. The match started at 9:00am(JST) today. Shogi Kingdom of Nikkei Net(http://hobby.nikkei.co.jp/shogi/)
is broadcasting the match on weblive. Here is how to watch the gameboard on live.

Go to the page of Shogi Kingdom of Nikkei Net at;
http://hobby.nikkei.co.jp/shogi/

Click the red arrow above the photo of the players.

Then you will have another smaller window of the gameboard on live.

Sato went first. The score is 2-0 led by Habu before this game. 3 wins in advance will decide which will be the title holder of Ouza.

DragonKing: Habu won the 7th game of Oui Title match against Sato with 116 moves(according to the shogi's way of move counting) and defended the title with the score of 4-3.
You can replay the game at the following URL
http://event2.hokkaido-np.co.jp/46oui-7/java.php
Habu went first in the game.

I'm trying to explain the possible mate lines after the resignation diagram. After the 116.G*9c, there are two squares Sente's King can escape such as 8e and 7c. In case of 8e, the mating line will be P*8d, K-anywhere, G*8e(mate). In case of K-7c, it will be G*6c, K-7b, G-6b, K-8b, G-9b(mate)

Habu is now in the Ouza title match with Sato as well. It is a 3 points match. As of today, Habu leads Sato by 2-0. The 3rd game will be held on Oct. 1.

Did Habu win the final game of the Oi? So he defended his title? He really does seem unbeatable at times. Makes me fear for Mouriuchi and the Meijin title.

takodori: Aah, I had overlooked that, Takadori, thanks.

In reply to Fwiffo: To me, it would make distinguishing my own pieces from my opponent's. I'm wondering if veteran players would feel that having both players' pieces the same color is so intrinsic to the nature of the game that it would be a detriment instead of an enhancement.

I hope this clarifies.

KeithGraham:As one of veteran players who has played shogi for more than 35 years, I would agree on your suggestion if a user can choose the traditional pieces or the proposed pieces here on BrainKing.

As to the physical set, I wouldn't think it'd be feasible. Please appreciate the fact that the other side of a playing piece is already used for promotion, except for King and Gold.

In what way would two different colours be an enhancement? I don't understand...

Would you veteran players agree that using two different colors for the pieces would be an enhancement to playing Shogi here on BrainKing?

The same thing could be accomplished with a physical set by having the opposite color on the other side of a playing piece, for when they are dropped back into the game, so it would seem reasonable to me. I think it would be a help.

Thanks for any replies.

Keith, new player.

takodori: Fantastic game!
In comparison with Japanese players, I can evaluate my lack of boldness, my careful greediness. Yet a thousand games and I probably could play better

DragonKing: Habu won the 6th game with 135 moves. You can replay the game at;
http://www.chunichi.co.jp/igo-shogi-script/shogi/s1145.html
Habu was the first mover.
The final match will be held on Sep. 21 and 22(JST).

DragonKing: Ah! The Japanese version of, "Give me a break!" Got it! Thank you. I have been trying to find that translation for days now.

You've got the wrong 'please'. It's more like 'please treat me well', 'please help me out', that kind of thing.

So it means "I hope to please you?" In loose translation?

Onegaishimasu means 'please', it's formed from the verb negau- to wish. The full expression used at the start of a game is yoroshiku onegaishimasu, yoroshiku means something like 'well', when two players of widely disparate strength meet only the weeker says "yoroshiku onegaishimasu". Yoroshiku can be written with the numbers 4649 so this is often seen on the internet.

Who won the last game? Did Habu tie the match up? I'm pulling for Sato, eventhough Mouriuchi is my favorite player. Does anyone know what "onegai shimasu" means? I'm told it's part of a ritual greeting at the start of a game. Thanks!

Resales. I teach many young japanese english as a second language. Most of them don't speak any english. I refuse to speak japanese in class. Just start with picture cards, hand gestures, facial expressions, and etc.. Young kids catch on super quick. Japanese in general are shy. So don't be mislead, when they are shy. A greeting in the morning could be helpful. Try, "Ohaio" pronounced like the state 'Ohio'. this means 'good morning'. but for the most part, leave her alone. she might feel more uncomfortable with the spot-light on her.

Try to play shogi with her ;)

Please excuse my butting in to your conversation.

Your student is japanese? Have you thought about origami? I don't know how many students you see at a time, but maybe orgami might give her a bit of home, and for the other students something interesting to see and learn. :) A traditional crane is easy to do.

harley: thanks, but I just found out I only see her 20 minutes a WEEK (!) so it appears I'll be just a cog in the machine.

redsales: The most important thing would be facial expression. Lots of smiles and encouragement. Pictures would help a lot, as well as hand signals and acting out things.
Also finding her a buddy, someone her own age who can help her.
My son had a Turkish boy start in his class who couldn't speak a word of English. My lad was asked to stick to him like glue and help him as much as he can. The lad soon picked up the language, and they managed to communicate mostly through acting things out, and loads of patience from both of them.
Hope that helps a bit! Good luck :O)

this is a bit off topic, but in one of my kindies there is a new Japanese student who can't speak a word of Korean, English or any other language I know...can anyone here think of something I can say to her that would make her feel welcome in romanji? She seemed pretty confused, as Korea can seem barbaric (esp compared to Japan) to even those who know the language.

takodori: The first game came to a sennichite with 72 moves. Now another game exchanging first and second movers started. You can see and replay the game here at;
http://hobby.nikkei.co.jp/shogi/oza/live_sashinaoshi.cfm

You can see and replay the 1st game of Ouza title match between Ouza Habu and Kisei Sato here at;
http://hobby.nikkei.co.jp/shogi/oza/live.cfm
The challenger Sato is Sente(first mover) as a result of Furigoma(toss by throwing 5 pawns).

In dice chess I've never heard of a player getting extra throws when they're in check, normally they hope to get a thow that'll remove the check before the opponent gets the throw to capture the king, I've played games in which the king has been in check from three pieces at once and still escaped.

A little note about few types move.
When I make move my pown to last line it promote always, and program must promote pawn if I select it on prelast line. (P9b for black in Japanese and for white on it site :) next move will promote to P9a+ always).
Another pieces:
- Pawn and Lance if stay on line "b" in next move will poromote (1 times pressed), for white - line "h";
- Knight if stay on line "c" or line "d" in next move will promote too (1 times or 2 times pressed), for white lines "g" and "f".

2nd bug:
I select japanese type pieces (3 or 4 type). And when my piece must promote I see promoted piece type 1 (european type). It's not correct.

Another bugs I not see while, but you can see next:
- Pawn from "hand" cant give mate to King
- Lince and Pawn from "hand" cant put on line "a" for black and "i" - for white (in Japanese note)
- Knight from "hand" cant put on line "a" or "b" for black and "i" and "h" - for white (in Japanese note)
I hope that it correctly work.

ughaibu: 'Domo arigato'. But! This site conducts me in a dead lock

ughaibu: Domo arigato.

http://www.zexia.co.uk/shogi/assoc.html

ughaibu: just having the pieces is half the battle!

ughaibu: how would i get in contact with him?

George Hodges used to sell all the classical variants up to tai. Plastic pieces with roll-up vinyl boards. If that appeals, I imagine he still has some. He also produces sets of Kyoto, poppi, renge, etc, to order.

I have seen a real Taikyoku Shogi board and pieces. It's HUGE!! and playing it is really fun. But it takes a very long time to play. Tai shogi is a bit better, but again it takes a long time to finish. I may travel to Tendo city soon. This is the Shogi capital city. It is located in the northern part of Japan. I am going to see if i can get someone to make me a Tai Shogi board and pieces.