*BOB*on*Bush*: in this life i've done Ludo for special requests, but it wasn't 'aggravation'- and not dark chess... have compromised by specializing in gammon;]
-Quick Players Club Member ;]

WatfordFC:
Rainbow days and anybody else including myself who have got more than the 500 secret action points for the day have done nothing wrong, none of us have tapped into the system, we have all worked out how to get them ourselves

Fencer has capped it, he did it yesterday when he realised himself, that it was getting out of hand, and i agree with what he did.

I really cant see what all the fuss is about.

Point in fact- Fencer set precedence when he took points away from a few people last month when they figured out how to beat the system- If memory serves- they were not 'capped' but eliminated...[lol- redundant in usa;]

Walter Montego; I too would like a speed rating and could care less about action points- although I have no 'brains' it takes a modicum of intelligence and time to play Dark Chess successfully... while Ludo... [well, they would have a faster 'speed rating'] ROFLMAO!

CRY ME A RIVER: You lost me here saying this Action Points thing shows me who to play or avoid. I could care less how many of these points I or you may or may not get each day. Does that make me a person to avoid playing? I am one of the faster players of his games, though I don't play in hundreds of games. I think you're confusing quantity of moves with quality of moves. And certain games, if you're trying to win the game as compared to move fast, require more time and energy to make good moves. Dark Chess or Embassy Chess as compared to say Ludo, come to mind.

This is one of the reasons a few of us have requested a speed rating index for total moves in all games and for each individual game. Some type of rating so that I might find someone to play that plays at a similar speed per game. There's plenty of ways to gauge movement. If I clear, and by clear I mean move at least once in every game that I have curently going in a day, say 50 games of which it was my move in 27 of them during that day, this is some ways is equal to someone that clears every game in a day that has 1000 games going and it's their turn in 540. I try to move once a day in every game though I can't if my opponent doesn't move, and sometimes I might not move for a few days. So an average of this speed would give an indication of my average time to clear all my started games. Another type of rating could be based on the actual amount of moves made each day. IN this example I might make 100 moves and the person with 1000 games might make 1500. With these two rating facts in hand, you could easily find players who's use of BrainKing matches your own. There's other ways to rate a player's speed too. Per week, per amount of time used by the time limit of the game, elapsed time while waiting for opponent to move, and etc., etc. All could give you numbers that could help you find compatible opponents.

I also just don't worry about it much. If my opponent moves within the time frame and is playing to win with his moves alone and not using the clock, then that's fine by me. Winning on time is part of some people's strategy for winning. I avoid this type of player when I encounter them, but they are playing by the rules. Those players that have so many games and are forced into playing in this manner are also players I tend to avoid, even if the motive for playing that way is not using the clock. To me, there's more to playing a game than just the playing of the game itself.

If we don't want action points can we give them to someone else?

CRY ME A RIVER: not if people have action points turned off (like i now have done).

CRY ME A RIVER:

This Action Points Is Great.It Has Improved Game Playing.It Is Showing Who Are Here To Play Games And Those That Are Not.Also Those That Are Using Methods To Win That Are Not Fair To ALL.LOL,But It Is showing Us ALL who To Avoid Playing In The Future.Have Fun And Enjoy Playing On This GREAT SITE!!!!!!

Marfitalu: I also agree that it would be nice to be able to have moderators move posts also - but on the flip side, I would much rather have Fencer spend time making new games then improving the discussion boards.

WatfordFC: (probable a good discussion to take to the computer board) - but would be surprised if someone would just remove the IE link - in Start, All Programs - I find Internet Explorer just sitting there. You can also create a new link also if you wanted (and if so - lets continue it on the computer board so we don't get too far off topic for this board.)

BIG BAD WOLF: Nope the icon was never on my pc, after it was built

WatfordFC: You don't need to reset your internet settings just to use IE - you should have an icon still in the start menu that says "Internet Explorer" unless you deleted them for some reason. (Since Firefox does not "replace" or "Delete" IE - but just adds a second browser to your system.) Many times I will have both Firefox & IE up at the same time.

Fencer: You don't tell someone not to do something - of course that is the first thing people will do! "Hey, don't look down" - what does someone do - look down.

playBunny: Firefox security - I just hope that does not scare people away from Firefox since it is still 80% more secure then IE - but hopefully let people know that you should always practive "safe browsing" while on the internet. Like any browser, and it becomes more popular, more people are going to try to find the holes in it.

multiple people: If you paid to not have ads the solution is VERY simple, go turn them off. You paid to play "board" type games in a turn based system, not pay to play a points game - so if there is an extra rule about having ads on to play - then don't play. (I like playBunny's "entry fee" comparison - having the ads on is like an entry fee.) For me, I paid to play in more tournaments - but did I complain when all of a sudden you needed to buy more Brains to play in some! Nope, I just did not play those and kept playing the ones that I paid to play. The ads are a neccessaty - heck, if everyone would click on 1 ad a week (since clicking pays more then just viewing these days), Fencer could probably almost turn this site into a completly free site - or at least continue to offer more and more prizes each month! But the bottom line is Fencer has kept the option for all paying members to still turn off the ads so I'm not sure why people are still complaining.

Complacency about Firefox's security is not recommended. The following article is rather eye-opening:

Firefox Myths

Hrqls: I quite agree. Paid members pay not to have ads but the competition is NOT what they paid for. The "entry fee" for the competition is to switch ads on. Seeing free entry into the competition as a right in incorrect.

playBunny: It will be absolutely different tonight. Hopefully.

Fencer: Heh heh! Don't visit brainking.info? So, being a most curious and cheeky bunny, what's the first thing I have to do?!

Agggghh - it's more Ads!!

Please do not visit BrainKing.info at the moment, I am struggling with some bloody templates and making a lot of mess there. When a new system is installed and released, I'll make an official announcement.

Baked Alaskan: sorry, i wasnt responding directly to you, it was just your message at which i clicked on reply after reading the whole thread. sorry, i should have removed your name.

the contest is a new extra feature which is free and which gives chance to win a prize. thats great! but (as with all contests in life) you have to do something to join the contest. in this case it means you have to turn on your ads to be able to join (and use internet explorer as browser).

it doesnt hurt any of anyones current membership who doesnt want the ads. thats still possible but you cant join the (otherwise free) contest

Hrqls:

Sorry, was I not being nice?

Wasnt trying to come off that way.  I love BK and tell everyone I can about the site. have paid for many friends memberships and will be a paying member here till I die.

Was just stating that I (along with other people) didnt think it was right to have to view adds to participate.
Nothing more, nothing less.   Doesnt mean I dont wanna be here anymore 

Baked Alaskan: when you came to this site and decided to become a member, why did you do that ?
because of the games i guess ?

what has changed about that since then ? nothing i hope ? the games are still there, the site is still there.

there is just something extra which doesnt cost you anything. you can keep using the site exactly as you were used to.
to use the extra feature (action points) an different setting is needed.

now its up to every player to decide if they would rather allow the ads to be able to use this extra feature, or not use the ads and this extra feature but continue with their membership as they did before

the action point contest of last month was mainly about moves being made, the action point contest of this month is mainly about finding and using the secret action

if you dont want the ads, then you wont be able to use the extra (for which you dont pay either), if you dont mind the ads or think the contest if more important (;)) then you can try to find the secret action, or maybe even outdo the secret action by moves alone.

summary:
it doesnt disadvantage anyone who doesnt want to take part in the contest.
it doesnt cost anything, its just a free gesture of fencer (for which in return you are helping him testing the site ;))

so please be nice for another and happy for whatever extras you are getting for no extra charge :)

FENCERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Baked Alaskan: To be honest i only use Internet explorer to get the points and then convert back to firefox. Yes you are right, it is very unstable at the moment. I had this new pc of mine built whilst i was on holiday, and the guy who built refused to put IE on here, because he said it is rife with picking up allsorts. IE must be actually inn the system, but whether one uses it or not is up to them.

WatfordFC:

Dont really need help locating IE   LOL   But thanx.
I prefer to use Firefox since its more safe and secure.

My point was, I shouldnt have to use a less secure browser and see adds to join in on the action points.

NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING on the internet will ever make me go back to using that hole and bug infested browser  LOL

Fencer:

WatfordFC: yeahhhhhh

OK Group hug

Oh and by the way people using firefox can get Internet Explorer, like i have done, it is on ya system, go to Search options the control panel, then go to internet, click on connections and it will ask you if u want to reset your web settings to Internet Explorer click "yes" and hey presto.......I hope it was ok for me to put this in here

WatfordFC: lol

Fencer:

WatfordFC: Especially when I made another change to it today.

Rainbow days and anybody else including myself who have got more than the 500 secret action points for the day have done nothing wrong, none of us have tapped into the system, we have all worked out how to get them ourselves.

Fencer has capped it, he did it yesterday when he realised himself, that it was getting out of hand, and i agree with what he did.

If people arent bothered by getting action points or not, then like some have said, jsut turn the ads off. Yes i want as many points as i can get so i can win a Rook membership, not to keep for myself but to pass it on to somebody else, who cant afford to get the membership, and i will continue to keep getting action points every month to get brains too, so one day i can convert those into a membership for somebody else, who cant afford to upgrade.

I really cant see what all the fuss is about.

wouldn'd wany any thinking i've gone off the the deep end, but i can swim!!!!

nightmagic: please excuse my spelling as i do get hyper. i like playing my games here, win or not, i have fun here, he is risking some. as a pay check i wouldn't play with it if it works. new is ok if it's ok'ed by the most, as the payers...yes the ad's give him % but his enployee's make his check!!!!

imsoaddicted: answering for me. no ad's there ,no ad's here

Somelaughs2: no we don't, and he needs to figure a way do do what he wants with out making us do ad's.

nightmagic: but the point i was making it dosnt
matter what Fencer does to the site because he never be able to please 100% of ppl there always be someone who dosnt like
this or dosnt like that i personally hate having the ads on its distracts me from what im here for to play games

i need a drink now, lol, i spoke my mind and it hasn't seen life in 3 years,lol

imsoaddicted: ad's take time to load.... which hinders the other party, in more ways than 1 . and u if on dial up. now please make it clear... dail up, comcast, telphone , is not my concern as to how long it takes one to turn, but ad's as u pay does and should make a difference, nomather how much. i am hearing \ that they are being hindered by this and as if they are on foxfire or ie it's in there personal preferences that this site should not be messing with, it's each there settings to get and or recieve these nonsence things called ad's. it messes people up with their computer, as there personal settings with their computer and they have to reset them in order to get these points. that also alow them prey.....

Somelaughs2: but correct me if im wrong at IYT you didnt get ads or pop ups if you were a paying member to
as ive got a pop up blocker on i cant go back there to find out

some just can't get there, some don't want ad's, some can't stop the ad's.... ME I liked it as is was but they life tells me it doesn't stay the saME. CHANGE..... oh mywhat have they done now?

All I hear from alot is paying member shouldn't be having to do this with ad's...

nightmagic: if your playing someone using the ads you cant see the ads just them

ad's, members pay not to have ad's.if points are based on ad's, alot of members dont like ad's. paying members i thought kept ad's from them. to play games with members using ad's can cause losing members.

Uninvited: I'm having rum & coke diet,lol. enjoy. the more i read all everywhere most don't like the ad's/ take ad's away and see where it goes.

rainbow days has done nothing wrong she just worked out how to get the secret points more than others and i suggest to anyone griping about action points this month would be to turn theres of and wait until everything has been tested
Keep up the good work Fencer its a great site

Baked Alaskan:nothing in life is fair, my mom told me this everyday of my life as i grew up with others in family BUT yes i agree, i 2 paid to not have ad's, and to enjoy my game time away from home work, it was my time here. What ever is planned on this site i hope owner does not lose site of why me and others are here verses IYT, gt and many others alto many are at all sites to. I like being here verses others i've been at and stopped playing at. Change? can be good and can be harmfull to those that pay to be here to not recieve what is at otheres. I've always said if it's not broke don't fix it! :)

Two things:

1) I dont use anything but Firefox so I cant get the secret stuff...
2) I dont want to see adds, Its why I paid for a membership.

Why must I change my browsing habits to get in on some action points?

Somelaughs2: I'm with you all the way.
I'm gonna shut off my points right now and go to the Friendly Lounge and have a couple of cold beers. The points are just not worth it.

Rainbow Days: Sure I wanted to know where to get Secret points. This contest was suppose to be based on moves .... Not Secret Points.
As far sour grapes go, I have said my piece, & I stick by what I have said.
You will see more people speaking out over the next few days.

Somelaughs2: The only fair way to do it now would be to set the cap for THIS MONTH at what ever the most secret points one person has.Then that person would not be able to get any more this month.
Then every one who finds the secret points can catch up.
After this month i would hope the secret points could only be foud once a month by any player.
And it could be worth greater points.