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1. März 2017, 16:36:48
Gabriel Almeida 
Thema: Re: Valuation
SL-Mark:crowdfunding seems a good idea, but I believe the most dfcult question is the technical one. Without Fencer we loose the programer of the site. Im not a programer, but I believe the program codes and experience in this peculiar site are not easily shared. So, we need the money to buy the site, but also the know-how to keep it rolling.

1. März 2017, 15:03:02
SL-Mark 
Thema: Re: Valuation
Mélusine: That indeed is a very low valuation!

We could have a player buy out , 100 players @ $100 each. And then a further $100 ea / year for the operating costs. These players could then become Maharajahs as well as business owners, though judging by some of the forums, it would make an interesting management team! :)

Anyone thought about using Crowdfunding to raise the capital?

1. März 2017, 14:43:23
Mélusine 
Thema: Re:
Marshmud: I think that 60000 dollars for this website is actually very expensive, because this site declines. In France, the average price of websites is lower, even for commercial sites with more customers per month and giving more money. But I can understand that Fencer has difficulties to sell his "baby" he created.

1. März 2017, 14:36:26
Mélusine 
Thema: Re: Valuation
SL-Mark: I also looked for the probable value of the site. From France, I don't find the same value (of course : Brainking isn't known in France). Here's the result : http://www.estimasite.com/brainking.com

And you can see on the graph that the value of the site decreases.

1. März 2017, 14:09:52
Mélusine 
Thema: Re:
Gabriel Almeida: I totally agree, the activity of Brainking is rather low. And I'm thinking the same about to renew or not my membership.

1. März 2017, 14:07:23
Mélusine 
Thema: Re:
ketchuplover: Yes, the number of members is steady but several paying members, as me, aren't very active, and I'm not sure to renew my subscription, and not for a question of money, because I can pay.

28. Feburar 2017, 01:57:54
Marshmud 
Thema: Re:
Marshmud: And to make it sound as a fair deal, fencer was going to stay on for one year to help for free and I believe liquid was 30usd or 40 usd a hour. This is only a idea of what he wanted then. I'm sure he could update anyone interested in BK but anyone can name any price on something they own.

28. Feburar 2017, 01:50:32
Marshmud 
Thema: Re:
Mélusine: Well a little over a year ago he wanted about 60g usd . I'm not sure but I think my offer of 25,000 never made it to the table as I thought it would insult him. I got sick with cancer and just stopped communicating with fencer. Everyone I talked to which included many programmers here at BK along with my family attourny said I was crazy, that Bk would have to be a hobby if I bought it. I see BK only surviving if a programmer buys it and can work with fencer learning his code...so to speak. In my opinion I don't see how someone can buy BK and then hire a programmer at 30 usd a hour to repair. That's a lot of money folks imo. It was fencers and liquids brainchild and I don't see how it can go on.

28. Feburar 2017, 01:02:49
Gabriel Almeida 
Thema: Re:
ketchuplover:actual activity in brainking is ridiculous.
See if you can start any team tournament of any non-dice game.
Although, this is clearly the best turn based games site, in my opinion, and people are staying "around", as pawns, waiting to see what will happen. Thats what ot looks to me.
I hope something good happens. In this conditions I also will not renew my membership, but I'll be nearby! :)

27. Feburar 2017, 21:08:03
ketchuplover 
Thema: Re:
Mélusine:

The number of memberships has remained fairly steady. Currently there 281 in total. How many are actually active I don't know. 27 are knight or bishop level. Rest are white rook or higher.

27. Feburar 2017, 10:45:14
SL-Mark 
Thema: Valuation
Valuation is an opinion.
"Ask five website buyers what they think your website is worth, and you’re likely to get five different answers. Each buyer would likely have a different valuation number and potentially a different method for creating the valuation."

But for fun only, these calculators returned the following results for Brainking.com (try facebook.com which has known value and you will see these calculators are somewhat off):
http://www.worthofweb.com/calculator/ $22,372
http://www.siteprice.org/ $14,241
www.yourwebsitevalue.com/ $9,168

27. Feburar 2017, 03:53:48
Mélusine 
The price of a website mainly depends on the number of visitors per month.
Actually, I think that the paying members decrease on Brainking, so the price of the site decreases too, so to make an offer is difficult.

27. Feburar 2017, 02:30:12
Aganju 
Thema: Re: Dear Fencer....
ketchuplover: we had that discussion last year, for weeks. It doesn't work that way.

26. Feburar 2017, 21:52:34
Bernice 
Thema: Re: Dear Fencer....
ketchuplover: hahahaha.....if he had any sense he would say ""place an offer and I will either accept or reject it""
.......

26. Feburar 2017, 08:40:53
ketchuplover 
Thema: Dear Fencer....
What is the minimum $ you would accept for BK? Thank you

24. Feburar 2017, 23:34:17
Mélusine 
Thema: Re:
Clandestine 1: Ok.

20. Feburar 2017, 06:55:49
Clandestine 1 
Thema: Re:
Mélusine:I use the BK app on android all the time. It's not very good, but I use it because it's fast. I can go on and on about the problems, but I guess the pros out way the cons for me because I still use it. It's good for the gammon games (except using the doubling cube). Some chess games are good, except problems occur in most variants (try scoring a pawn).
Anyway, I play my gammon moves thru the app and then log in once in a while using the Web for my other games. You also can't see messages using the app which kind of sucks but....I still use it.

20. Feburar 2017, 04:48:15
Bwild 
Thema: Re:
Verändert von Bwild (20. Feburar 2017, 04:49:19)
I only got ten days when I renewed makny:
But now it's right
Lol

19. Feburar 2017, 15:33:00
makny 
In response to vacation days, according to the vacation day policy under the paid membership page, rooks receive 35 a year... If you renew for another year or longer with in that year, you get 10 bonus days the first time and 5 the second time... After that, no more bonus days for that year

19. Feburar 2017, 04:27:57
Bernice 
Thema: Re:
earldrake1: thankfully there will be a lot of happy people on here now hahahahahah

19. Feburar 2017, 00:51:42
metamorphosis 
Thema: Re:
Bernice: he just lost 1500 games in the last hour. Finally.

18. Feburar 2017, 21:25:24
Bernice 
thanks everybody...I am getting sick of being on tournaments that go on for months...Those particular ones seem to so I will not be joining anymore of those...i will just stick with Flame Pit Tournaments.

18. Feburar 2017, 21:01:46
Aganju 
Thema: Re:
Roberto Silva: he didn't log on since 5 weeks. i doubt he will come back right now and do anything. So just hold your breath for three more hours.

18. Feburar 2017, 20:33:12
Roberto Silva 
Thema: Re:
happyjuggler0: The first time you buy a yearly membership you get 10 bonus vacation days, EVEN if you're already a rook, though you can never have more than the original 35. That can happen only once a year, as far as I know.

18. Feburar 2017, 20:02:05
crosseyed_uk 
Thema: Re:
happyjuggler0: Okay.

18. Feburar 2017, 20:00:37
happyjuggler0 
Thema: Re:
crosseyed: Actually I am not sure that even buying a membership will help. He is a brain rook which meant he already blew through his entire vacation days for the year since Jan 1 already. It is my understanding he won't get any more vacation days even if he buys a membership; he would have to wait until Jan 1 rolls around again to get new vacation days.

If his member ship had been a knight and then he had bought a rook then I think he would get more vacation days.

18. Feburar 2017, 19:57:30
crosseyed_uk 
Thema: Re:
happyjuggler0: Or buy a new membership as it runs out today.

18. Feburar 2017, 19:56:01
happyjuggler0 
Thema: Re:
Bernice: His "weekend" days are Friday and Saturday, so he will start timing out at midnight server time, which is in close to 4 hours from now as I write this.

All of this is assuming he doesn't log in and start making moves before he times out of course....

18. Feburar 2017, 19:46:04
Bernice 
there is only one person left to play his games....it is now MINUS 2 minutes and he has no vacation time left....when does he lose all games?

βaβyĢіґŁŁєs КIŦÇΉЄŊ (Happy Halloween)

17. Feburar 2017, 14:01:57
yurkin 
Thema: Re:
furbster:
Yep, I select them, one, two, all, but a roll doesn't occur. That's the first time I have such problem, it could be as well something wrong with my phone.

17. Feburar 2017, 13:42:39
furbster 
Thema: Re:
yurkin: have you selected the dice you wish to roll first?

17. Feburar 2017, 13:07:23
yurkin 
Guys, I want to ask if someone have problem with the dice poker game? Or is just me perhaps, but the dice doesn't roll at all, the rolls count remains 2, I've been trying for few days now :x

17. Feburar 2017, 06:27:42
happyjuggler0 
Thema: Re: Time Out
MrDelete: It doesn't matter if it is Friday morning where your opponent is. What matters is that it Friday morning according the BrainKing time...which as it happens is also where your opponent is.

Perhaps you understood that point, perhaps not. If you are in the US and you have Fridays and Saturdays off, and it is Thursday in the US, and you run out of time on your clock, you *will* be timed out even though it is Thursday here in the US.

The rule for when your weekend day starts is BK time, or server time. If you are unsure of the time zone conversions, just log out and look at the clock on the upper right and it will tell you what day it is and what time it is in server time.

17. Feburar 2017, 05:36:22
MrDelete 
Thema: Time Out
Yes it is Friday and Saturday and he is in the Czech Republic it is Friday morning there .

17. Feburar 2017, 05:15:46
skipinnz 
Thema: Re: Time Out
MrDelete: have you checked when their weekend is

17. Feburar 2017, 04:12:27
MrDelete 
Thema: Time Out
Why does a game not time out when all vacation days are used up,the game timed out at 11 minutes after 7 and it is now 11 minutes after 10 and has not timed out !

15. Feburar 2017, 18:46:35
Roberto Silva 
Thema: Re:
Mélusine: Most chess, checkers and gammon type games work fine (except for loop chess, where you can't reuse captured pieces because you can't see them, and maybe Xiangqi and Shogi, not sure).

Most other games don't work, but as stated, any phone browser should work fine.

15. Feburar 2017, 11:56:24
Mélusine 
Thank you for your answers.

15. Feburar 2017, 07:30:33
Hrqls 
Thema: Re:
Mélusine: the brainking app for android doesnt support all game types as far as i remember .. you can play some games with it, and that works quite well

for the other games o0n brainking you have to use your phone browser, which works ok as well

13. Feburar 2017, 19:07:26
universe 
Thema: Re:
Mélusine: I dont use the app. It works fine on my phone without it.

13. Feburar 2017, 05:55:16
Doris 
Thema: Re:
Mélusine: It plays fine on my android.  All the same games.

13. Feburar 2017, 02:56:08
Mélusine 
Does someone play with the application Brainking on Android ? I don't find it on Apple. Is it better ? Do you find the same games ?
Question to Fencer : Will the application replace this site in the future ?

9. Feburar 2017, 13:25:52
kleineme 
Thema: Re:
Verändert von kleineme (9. Feburar 2017, 13:33:00)
Carnie: Congratulations, but your opponent could have tried something like 171.- K4b3 winning after 172. Kc1 with any king to c2 or after 172. Ka1 with any king to b2 ;-)

9. Feburar 2017, 11:29:58
moistfinger 
Thema: Re:
Carnie: Try requesting a draw again

9. Feburar 2017, 00:44:25
Brian1971 
Thema: Re:
Carnie: You could be waiting until the end of Brainking for that to happen.

8. Feburar 2017, 22:13:09
Marshmud 
Thema: Re: Claim draw
Aganju: Is it automatic after so many moves? I thought in chess variants you had to request for a draw and your opponent had to agree.

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