(V): They are the same party and can trace their roots back to 1830. They even admit this on their own website (minus the racial hate stuff). So let's see, go with Jules' spin or the DNC's own website.

Oh yeah, the DNC.

Artful Dodger: Blimey.. nothing has changed since the 1790's... not even when the liberal Republicans left the Republican party in the 1960's??

History is history.. but to twist it to making out the Democratic party is the same as over 200 years ago is a little weak. It's like saying the stars never move.

(V): I said they can trace their roots back to the 1830s, lol you posted this fact yourself. And this is the SAME party that favored slavery. And it wasn't too long ago that the democrats were for segregation.

Tuesday: Beck is paid to be an idiot by an idiot aka Murdoch!

He's just a propaganda machine hired to keep the rich rich at the same time getting rich from being an idiot... n' because people think he's telling the truth (as Fox never would let anyone lie on their channel.. people go along with his idiocy.

Artful Dodger: Many people in the USA were for segregation, many people still think black folk are less then them in the USA. Using race to hide their insecurities blaming this and that for their woes.. it does not work. Those that were active in white supremacy are still alive due to it being such a recent event. You have Conservative Christians saying being Gay is evil and against God.. Men still saying women belong in the Kitchen.

Are we all to live in the past and never move forward??

imho that is pure madness.

(V): The democratic platforms are still racist today.

Tuesday: I know.

Artful Dodger: So... if parties still don't change and people don't change.

Are the protestants in the USA still wanting (as per their founders) wanting to kill all Jews?

The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville

The Democratic party seized upon this idea long ago.

(V): I never said they didn't change. I said they can trace their origins to the 1830s and that they are still the same party. The Democrats reinvented themselves when the lost the slavery fight and the segregation fights. Now they just exploit blacks and minorities in other ways.

Artful Dodger: Then your whole argument falls down.

Hallelujah. the end...

Tuesday: I thought these days it was more the Hispanics who were being used. God forbid Americans paying full price for what they consume!!

Tuesday: Fox justs wants to stir and like other ultra right wing organisations.. spread fear.

Who was it that was standing in the school house door preventing black from attending a public school. Yeah, a democratic leader.

History reveals that it was Democratic Attorney General, Robert Kennedy that approved the secret wire taps on Dr, Martin Luther King Jr., and it was Democratic President Lyndon Johnson that referred to Dr. King as " that N preacher." Senator Byrd referred to Dr. King as a "trouble maker" who causes trouble and then runs like a "coward," when trouble breaks out.

And these days the left plays the race card all day long. Against Obamacare? You're a racist. Don't like Obama as president? That's because you're a racist. Jesse Jackson - a racist as is Al Sharpton.

Are you for affirmative action? You're for race discrimination. All the entitlement policies can be traced largely to the Democrats. They are bribing the people with their own money.

A lot has changed since 1830 but then again, a lot has stayed the same.

Some sins aren't so easily "sorried": away. The Klan did a lot of damage especially when Byrd was a member AND recruiter.I'm not black and I never did a survey but to many blacks , slavery and the Klan are on par with Nazis, I would say its safe to say. How could Byrd undo or make up for his part? Same for Ted Kennedy, (for his own little episode at Chappaquiddick) sorry,but great men they are not

Tuesday: being a member an recruiter in the Klan isn't a matter of being opinionated. They did a lot of damage and spread a lot of hate

Tuesday: My goodness, you sure are very forgiving,He was raised by his Aunt and Uncle.. and he was college educated. He was a racist, bigot and probably bordered on what today is criminal activity. spreading hate and racial bias...condemn him for ever no... but elect him time and time again? Today he would be prosecuted. he came to his senses when he realized his views were not popular and wouldn't get him elected

"I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side… Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds" ---Senator Robert Byrd --- (D-WV)

Even after his resignation from the Klan, Byrd continued to hold it in high esteem, writing to the Klan's Imperial Wizard in 1946: "The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia."

And Byrd was old enough to have participated in filibustering the Civil Rights Act of 1964, as well as to have voted against it after cloture along with 18 other Democrats -- in the name of the Constitution, of course.

Tuesday: He didn't come close to redeeming himself..it is sicking to suggest otherwise...whose next ? Goebbels?

sickening?

GTCharlie: Exactly right. The left found Byrd useful and Byrd found changing his outward ways useful. The country was changing and if he wanted to survive politically, he'd have to change too. There is nothing noble about that.

Clearly, the Left would NOT whitewash this man's history if he were a Republican.

Tuesday: True.. but Byrd is still stained.. just like ted.. just like David Duke.. of course duke never made it to "KLEAGLE" OR KILLED anyone

Tuesday: YES and did not get elected...get my point?

point being..ignorance.. youth is no excuse.. being a 2 faced weasel liar isn't either.. yes ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd... I mean both of you

Who was wowed by Obama's oratorical gifts and believed that the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as Obama -- a 'light-skinned' African American 'with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one,' as he said privately."

??

A Democrat

GTCharlie: Judge not lest ye be judged... I cant wait... hey St Peter what bout these 2!!!