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I've played plenty of games where my moves are almost all recommended by the computer. It's not that uncommon in some types of positions. The computer usage thing has a lot to do with the time spent on the move also. It's clear to me that he's not cheating. He should have been down 1/2 to 1 1/2 after game 2 instead of up 2-0. I think Topalov's manager is more of a problem here than Topalov himself. I figure he probably made a comment that Kramnik was going to the toilet a lot and Danailov just made a big mess out of it.
Kramnik is more than 70% computer, and less than 30% human. according to Topalov's team, a protest was filed to FIDE that all the first 6 games Kramnik played almost 70% of the moves matched the first recommandation of a computer program called "xxxxxx9".
now the seventh game of the world chess championship is ended with a victory for Topalov with black, the score is tied at 3:3. my prediction was right that i predict Topalov will not lose this match even he was behind Kramnik by one point. please read my post on 1 October 2006,23:25:30
Thema: should forfeited game be counted in world chess championship
Kramnik forfeited his 5th game under protest, and FIDE decided to give the point to Topalov, the championship match continue with the score 3-2 for Kramnik, and Kramnik is playing under protest, he threatened to sue the FIDE after the match concluded. another forfeited world championship game is the famous Fischer vs Spassky in 1972, the match was played also under the FIDE and the forfeited game was counted in Spassky's favour, and Fischer forfeited the 2nd under protest, the only different is Fischer was behind by 1-0.
in my opinion the foefeited game should be counted. and KRAMNIK'S threaten to sue is very bad for the whole chess world. who is going to be the next sponsor?
now the world chess is became very politics,Garry Kasparov is a politician in Russian, and he is the one created the so-called classical world champion, Karspavov and Short broke away from the FIDE to play their world championship match. now there are many grandmasters sending letters to support Kramnik and critize the FIDE and the FIDE presendent llyumzhinov, and those grandmasters are always not not llyumzhinov's supporters.
both players are using computer to do home preparation for this match, and both are d4 players.(from first game to the latest game) Topalov is not FISCHER who always played the first move e4 before the match against Spassky but he did not play a single e4 game during the whole match. also FISCHER is the one who forfeited the 2nd game. one more thing, FISCHER was playing against the mighty Russan team, and he always accused the Russan was cheating.
Walter Montego: You asked "Does your clock run while you're in the restroom and it's your turn?". Yes it does, from chess at the highest level, right down to local tournament level.
mctrivia: The drugs they use to treat attention deficiet disorder such as ritilan and adderall increase mental speed and concentration without the jitters you get from actual speed. They could give an edge in competition as they work to block out distractions and focus your thinking on one thing at a time.
mctrivia: Ok. But if I read discussion correctly, the issue was over outside help that he could have received in the bathroom (cell phone). However, it really doesn't make much sense. They have refreshments at the events and that could cause the problem.
Walter Montego: I highly doubt he would be taking speed it is the only drug I can think of at the time. In fact I don't think he is likely taking anything the point was there are drugs that increase mental speed and acuity.
mctrivia: Speed, yeah, right. :) You guys have lost it and I'm having a good laugh now just listening to the speculation. I have yet to meet a smart person that takes speed on a regular basis. And I've known a few. Perhaps in lower doses and used medicinally instead of as a drug to get high it might conceivably have such a use, but if so, why wouldn't it be a more widely known fact? The amount taken to get high is lot more than the amount needed to feel its affect of waking you up and increasing alertness. So maybe there's something to this drug angle except for one thing. Speed is a long lasting drug and you wouldn't need to make frequent trips to the restroom. One extra trip at most. No reason one couldn't just take it before leaving your hotel room and not take it again until the next day. Is coffee drinking allowed at this tournament?
Like the joke picture on the link that had all the phones, computers, and monitors, along with the padded toilet seat, if there's anything going on with the frequent trips to the restroom besides him having a urinary problem, it will be getting outside help and using machines to make the moves. You wouldn't need such an elaborate set up. A cell phone and a few even one conspirators a call away who are watching the tournament would be enough.
I have a question about the use of the restroom while the tournament game is going on. Does your clock run while you're in the restroom and it's your turn?
gambler104: There are drugs like speed that improve mental performance. These drugs are usually even more dangerous then the ones that increase physical performance.
gambler104: why athlete take drugs? for the same reason Kramnik would take drug. how many times a normal person going to the toilet? the rule of chess should be changed, player shall not leave the table except going to toilet accompany with a referee,the game must be played out with no adjournment(before player can seal his move into an envelop after 40 moves), and one more thing should be changed, no second is allowed, this is an individual sport, a single game match, it is not a team match.
from latest chessbase.com the sixth game will be played tomorrow with the score 3:2 for Kramnik. this is good for Topalov, i predict that Topalov will not lost the match even Kramnik is ahead by one point.
people are on kramnik's side just because he won the first two games, forget the two games and you will see kramnik's behave is very strange, why he needed to go to the toilet so often, i suspect that he is taking drug before or during the game, the best way is to take an urine test of kramnik's and see what is the results come out. both topalov and kramnik are using computer for home preparation.
Beren the 32nd: I like the picture of Nigel Short. Very funny! At the momment, the bathroom and restroom problems are resolved. Today there isn't game as yesterday. Let's see if the problem of the points (the big one: 1-3 or 2-3?) will be resolved.
naughtypawn: The first two games in particular were very tense and exciting I thought. Now Topalov and his team have disgraced themselves. Topalov plays fighting chess, but Kramnik's cool approach has already proved to be superior I think. Top level chess is 50% psychology isn't it? There are some amusing pics at the bottom of this page: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3386
Thema:New tournament of the fellowship "Oriental games"
You are cordially invited to join the new tournament of the fellowship "Oriental games" opened to all. The supported games are: Chess, Chinese Chess, Japanese Chess, Loop chess, Ambiguous Chess, Reversi 8x8, Go, Go 9x9 and Go 13x13. You can be registered to the adress: Oriental Games (15. Septembre 2006, 06:56:47)
Chicago Bulls: Yes, another match with Deep Blue would have been good publicity for chess. Unfortunately IBM did not have anything to gain by it as the win they had was already worth millions in publicity. Kasparov's accusations of cheating and his general behavior after the 2nd game in the 2nd match also did not help his cause for bringing about another match. "Trash talk" has its place in sporting events and can help generate interest in boxing and other types of sports, but when dealing with corporate types there are different rules. Kasparov and other top chess players haven't always caught onto those rules and they now suffer for the lack of reliable corporate sponsorship in chess events. One big consequence is having to put up with the Kirsan and many of his reforms!
panzerschiff: . . . Yes i would like to see Kasparov's revenge against Kramnik but also i would be thrilled to see these old days (1997-1998), the revenge against Deep Blue after his tragic loss....
Chicago Bulls: Poor Anderssen didn't have much luck with the Spanish game either just getting a draw and a loss with it in his other two whites. Actually 1.a3 could have been a success if he had followed up his opening advantages better. Morphy did not handle the closed positions very well that arose out of this reversed Sicilian. Beim's books "Paul Morphy a Modern Perspective" gives some interesting analysis on these games. Anderssen should probably have won the 6th match game that he lost with 1.a3, but a lack of practice and the speed of the play did not help his chess in that match.
It is too bad that Morphy did not give Anderssen a rematch or play Kolisch a couple of years later. Unfortunately we chess players have missed out on a number of interesting matches, because of players losing interest in the game or refusing to play worthy contenders in the good old days before FIDE or after if for that matter! If we count Kramnik's refusal to play Kasparov before the latter retired from chess.
panzerschiff: Correct! There is no reason Anderssen(and not Andersen) to want to play "black moves" when he had white, since in that match he lost all his games as black against Morphy except one. So there was no reason to want to play black lines.... Also with 1.a3 he succeeded an equal result of 1 win, 1 lose and 1 draw that is 50% while against Morphy in the same match when he tried other opening he had 75%(1 win, 1 draw) so we can't consider 1.a3 a success for him..... Also Anderssen may tried 1.a3 because he may liked to play a kind of reversed Sicilian Defense after 1...e5 Who knows what he had in mind?!?! The best responses i know are 1...Nf6! 1...g6 and 1...d5 but 1...e5 is playable too.....
Pafl: Actually Andersen would most likely have played 2. c2-c4 as he did in his match with Morphy three times in 1858! Hugh Myers would have liked an e4 follow up more likely and he wrote something about it in a couple of his books. I think he called it something like Mangarini's Opening, but my spelling may be off on that.
cruz abdul: I don't know anything about h2-h3 but I know that Andersen played 1.a2-a3 a couple of times as white ... his idea was (a) to confuse the opponent (b) simply, to "make white black" - after, let's say 1.a2-a3 e7-e5 he would follow along the usual lines of the black ... 2.e2-e4, etc.
cruz abdul: Well I think you can play h2-h3 some what the same which you play with white. You should not try too much punish from that move. This is how I have been thaught about this kind of moves.
is anyone familiar with White PH2-H3, and later White PG2-G3, and later White King-side Castleing openings. i, am particularly interested [as someone who has played Chess "on-and-off" for 30 yrs: ] how to Play an Offensive against this initial PH2-H3 ..etc. - thank you for your time.
I think, because I am one of the players I have right to say something about this game.
This game is played, well, there was intention to play it, as a tournament game in fellowship. In this tourney prize were offered and because friendly atmosphere in fellowship no time limit were choosen. Backgammon tournament were finished after couple of week and chess wont be finished ever (Prize was removed and another tourney were set). As a club player I know opponent shouldnt be asked to move. But after careful deliberation I did it after first month w/o move and second time after 2 month w/o move. In both cases I received message "OK, I will play soon, I have no time". My opponent only use weaknesses of the system to his favour. Its not right behaviour, I think, but it is his right. But it is good to know, when I will lie in cold tomb, I will still play chess game on BK
Lukas
Czuch Chuckers: I kept your original post and didnt edit it. I removed your post as you were in total violation and you knew it. I have you on block? HMMMM dont you also have me on block or did you just remove that to message me just now? You cant have your cake and eat it too.
Please stick to the topic of I have no choice but to hide you until a moderator comes online
Maybe he is just a fast learner? Can someone who knows take a look at his games and tell if he knows what he is doing, or if he is really just lucky and beating people who just suck?
Has anyone done what was talked about a couple of posts ago? You have two games that are going to end, and you wait to submit your win until you lose the other one...? I am almost certain that your BKR will be higher that way, and it will work with every type of game!
Regarding the "lightning fast play when he wins", well, if you think about it, it is better for the person losing if the soon-to-be-winner plays the game faster. (This also goes into effect when a player that is losing resigns a game.) Do the math for a lose and then a win, and a win and then a lose. With the way BK does its ratings you will end up higher if you count the lose first and the win second in comparison to the win and then a lose. Interesting! He is actually doing you a favor in playing those games he is going to win faster. :-) This is a good thing for anyone that may be concerned about their ratings. I am! ...well not really... afterall, I think we are forgetting the point of sites like this, to have fun playing games!
mctrivia: He's here every day, and definitely more than 3 hours a day. He's got plenty of time to move but for some reason, he delays his moves almost to the last second. He [modified - WQ]uses the vacation system in order to have for instance 12 days for a 7-day-per-move game. However, you wouldn't believe how fast he is in making moves when it's clear he's going to win a particular game. Lightning is a snail.
Pedro Martínez: Your right I didn't notice that it was a tournament. Well I have a feeling that terniment will never come to an end. As for him only having 15min a day or so. Since September 2005 he could have played atleast 1 move nomater how busy he is. You can select those games and make a move manually.
Pedro Martínez: [In response to the deleted part of Pedro's last post - WQ] You should never make assumptions. What if he has a lot of games? What if he always has another game that fills in with time remaining before he can get to that game? What if he can only play 15 minutes a day? There are a lot of things it could be! you shouldn't jump to conclusions unless you know for a fact. [Text deleted - WQ]