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I could use some help recruiting for the Espionage beginner's tournament. I have 20 players signed up now, I'm aiming at 25 at least. This should be possible considering the prizes, only it's hard to reach the beginners.
So I'm asking for help: maybe in your games (also other than espionage) you meet players who might be interested in joining. They can't have a rating higher than 1500 in any of the espionage variants and their 1st log in has to be before nov 29th last year.
Nothingness: Maybe you could set up small fast #2? I've got a few new players who are interested in playing in an espioinage tournament who don't qualify for the beginner's tournament. Would be good to have an alternative for them as well.
SL-Bosse: I just saw that there can only be 4 player's in the team, so I guess it's a good idea if you have a fellowship as well to create another team, because now there are 6 player's in nothingness' team, already 2 too many. I can join your team if you want, then Nothingness has 4 players left. I saw Mark already signed up for another team as well. The Leaguers will play against eachother!
Nothingness: How many people can join a team? Maybe Bosse is right, if there are more player's interested than there are places in the team, it would be great if he'd made another espionage fellowship. Maybe first wait if it's necessary.
Pedro Martínez: Both Nothingness and I checked Resher's stats thoroughly. His wins by time-outs were games not even half played against the same 2 absolute beginner opponents in every variant. The rating was based on 4 games, 1 more than an unrated status. Based on those data I call someone a beginner. If trained by Nothingness I'm not surprised Resher is improving rapidly. I have no doubt Nothingness takes this job very seriously and Resher seems eager to learn, as can be seen by the large amount of espionage games of all sorts he has taken up since he signed up for the tournament, quite some of them against you. I'm sure he's learning a lot from you as well.We encourage the beginners to train themselves for the tournament, so it's only likely some will get above the beginner's level before the tournament.
Nothingness: you must have missed my last post, it was 13 december. I was planning on once a week. If you want to see it more often, that's fine if you post them.
Nothingness: I repost it regularly, can't do it every day though. There are many other people posting tournaments, they have the right to be seen as well.
Nothingness: With single elimination half of them is out after just 1 game! The idea is that they all start to learn and hopefully enjoy playing the game. Round robin has a minimum of 5 here. Let's see how many beginners we get, I could adjust it to 5 if it's a multiple of 5.
happy hermit: Sounds to me like a game could last quite long that way. Is the limit the limit for the total game or for the bonustime? I never got that right.
SL-Bosse: Thanks :) I'm very happy with it! :) :) I still think there should be another round if players have the same amount of points though. I think the S-B thing is odd. If the reasoning is that you're stronger if you win against opponents with a lot of points it should also makes you weaker if you lose against an opponent with less points.
happy hermit: Hmmm, with you're playing style you can probably get away with it. Most of us don't. But if it's the last spy and I still have a lot of unknown pieces I think I might be tempted even to to sacrifice a 4 or 5 :) But ofcourse I like to bluff and do not like spies at all :)
Nothingness: any player means it's not a specific player. Only unrated players/players below 1500 will be able to see your games though. I can't see your games them in the waiting room.
Nothingness: a little patience :) People have to get an invitation to enter the tournament, and there are also pawns who have to finish another tournament first. In the mean time do place espionage games in the wsiting room to get new players who might be interested!
SL-Mark: #3: 6 months Brain Knight? I'm willing to pay for #1 and #2, maybe you want to skip in for #3?
I've found two pupils: Jimbone and lornita. The more students the better, right? I would like to encourage people to take on as many students as they can handle. This way players who aren't dark chess champs may also get a change to be trained :)
open for anyone with ratings 1500 or less or unrated, first log in before today.
minimum: 25 players, max 5 players in each section
invitation only -
Nothingness just came up with a player who wanted to enter who had ratings above 1500 for all variants just because he was in an all game tournament and the opponents never moved. he never actually won a played game. I'm sure everyone who wants to be in will simply ask me to invite them.
Prize:
#1 - 1 year rook
#2 - 1/2 year rook
#3 - 100 brains (or another amount, have to check what that's worth)
ok, pls give me feedback! I'd like to have the signing in begin soon so people notice and turn to us to train or train themselves.
SL-Mark: inviting them is not so much effort. Since there is a prize I expect a lot of interest, and players approaching me. All of you can point players out to me. I can then invite them, and all beginner's I come accross. I'm prepared to do the extra work involved.
I don't think you can exclude participants already signed up.
happy hermit: That was my first thought, but a rating below1500 or unrated still means they could have a very high rating in a different variant. They may just never have played fast espionage.
I want to create the beginner's tournament. I will award a prize for the winner. When shall I have it started? I will make it an invitation only tournament otherwise strong players might enter. I'm sure no Leaguer would do this, but others might.
Please let me know how much time you think you need to find a good pupil, and do let them know they can win a year rook's membership!
When shall I start the have the beginner's tournament started? januari 15th? What variant shall we choose for them? They often start out playing volcano variants.
Among the veteterans Fast espionage seems the most popular volcano variant. Maybe the tournament after next could be Fast? If I organise a Fast tournament for the beginner's before that, they can play along in our normal tournament playing fast.
I'm considering giving out a 1-year rook price for the winner of the beginner's tournament.
I'm already trying to get some beginner's (they've only played a few games) interested in really learning the game. If everyone of you will train 1 pupil the tournament could become very interesting indeed! We can compete with who has trained the winner!
SL-Mark: I already directed people to BK in my biographical information at IYT, and now you told me this I recommend BK also in the ratings for all the sabotage games on my profile at IYT
aaru: Indeed you're the one and only espionage master so far! I find it hard to get the mines. If I'm in a game about to capture them my oppnent usually resigns.
Nothingness: would BK consider implementing a 4 player variant? In Stratego such variant exists. I would love that. And ofcourse there's the corner variant already existing at IYT, we could ask for that one here. It requires quite a different strategy.
As for playing volcano tournaments, if there are just a few players who want to be in those it's no use. Maybe the league has to grow first? I'm ok with a fast (volcano) tournament after the next, but I don't think I'll enter.
Celticjim: when do we let the poll end? On the list Bosse made some time ago he counted 19 players reading this forum. Should we ask other players in the the small fast #1 and open fast #1 who don't seem to read this forum to vote?
SL-Bosse: 2days + weekend (I already voted for Small Fast).
As soon as a start day is agreed I think signing up could start. I'd set the start date a little later than 1 december, but I'll join if it will be the date.
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