Socrates: Huh... It's amazing how many retail board game companies sell checkers sets that aren't regulation. You'd think they'd want to be authentic. Oh well, such is life. :-)

Socrates: Given red and black pieces, which moves first?

Socrates: I'm interested in knowing the answer to your problem. I've had my checker board sitting on the floor in my office all set up since you posted it. :-) Could you send me the solution in a message?

Grim Reaper: You invented Gothic Chess, right? So what happened that caused Fencer to have to get rid of it?

Socrates: Now you've done it. He'll start stamping his feet in a tantrum. Grim, put us all on ignore please. This forum would be a better place if you did.

Grim Reaper: I think you expect too much out of players. I've played pinchitos a few times and he's good, but he's not a master. I don't recognize the position you reference as a winning one and I don't expect he would have either. I saw a couple moves where I would have done something different, but I still haven't seen the game get thrown away. Maybe you're way too advanced for us Grim. They should make a special forum just for you, so you can have an outlet for your accusations.
Oh, and by the way, Ustica is "supposed" to win. lol
John Baker

harley: Fencer might have Grim on his block list after too many complaining emails. lol

Grim Reaper: That looks like an interesting game. I'll watch to see how it unfolds.
On this same line, I think it'd be cool to have a "watch" feature on this site. (Like on eBay) Players could put other people's games on a "watch list" and see them on their Main page. Wouldn't that be cool?

Socrates: No, you can only participate in one tournament at a time. I'm in the middle of one right now and I hope it finishes up in time for me to join this new one.

Jumper: Furthermore, the game that would follow such a progression would virtually have its own database of positions. It might be fun for two players here to play the moves through till both have all kings, then play from there. I for one, would want to watch. Grim Reaper and Pedro Martínez again? Or someone else?

Grim Reaper: YOU ARE BRILLIANT!!! LOL!!!

Grim Reaper: How so when there are only 24 checkers on the board to begin with?

bwildman: He's most likely talking individual moves, and then only from the "losing move" they had been discussing. That way, 131 sounds about right.
There were 148 total moves in the game (74x2) and 131 moves back must have been the move in question.

Purple: I think the BKR lists are a great alternative to ladders. I play on IYT and AMU also, and I too have noticed how inaccurate the placements can be. In my opinion, the BKR system set up here is far superior. I've made it my goal to climb the BKR lists for the games I enjoy.

Grim Reaper: You really treasure that occasion, don't you... Seems you've got that date burned into your memory and you can't help but toss it around every now and then.

Good point. I supppose it should be an honor of sorts to be accused of cheating. (Assuming of course that you're really not cheating. lol)

Jake Lopez: I am an enthusiastic checkers player, but I care not about removing cheaters. If I suspect someone of cheating, I will simply refrain from playing that person. You say you "SLIGHTLY care," but it's obvious that you DEEPLY care. Read over your own posts. You've made it seem like this is very important to you. Sounds like you've done some research into it too. Also, you say, " It doesn't change or affect my life in any way," but if you are becoming emotionally involved in this battle, then it is affecting your life in ways we can't define.
If someone is cheating and you slightly care about it, then report the player and put him/her on your ignore list. I think that would be the right way to go about things. Purple can correct me if I'm wrong about that.

Give it up Jake. If you succeeded in getting Ed to play you and he won, you'd just accuse him of using his program. And if he lost, he'd say it was just one game and you'd really have to play dozens of games in order to get accurate results. Why do you care so much anyway? How do the actions (or claims) of Ed change your life?
John Baker

Purple: Nice job of moderating. The discussion sure has improved over the last 2 months.

As a person who is somewhat immersed in the quest to learn more about checkers and as a person who considers himself to be a fairly logical thinker, I must admit that I have found recent discussion in this board to be of interest to me. I found the discussion to be amusing, entertaining, and all in the context of checkers. If there was intention to prevent hostility, that objective should have been made more obvious. Personally, I find discussing discussion to be boring and rarely useful. If an interjection is to be made, it should be clear, concise, and well placed.
I hope everyone has a great day and plays well in all their games.
~John

As far as I can tell, nothing was discussed but checkers. Checkers moves, checkers endgames, checkers software, checkers positions. What's your problem Purple?

How often can 3 kings on 2 kings end in a draw? I've got a game right now with Stevie where I've got my 2 kings in opposite corners and he is unable to trap one.