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17. December 2011, 03:21:11
pedestrian 
Emne: Re: Users Stats
rod03801: Yes, that's my impression too. But how many are there? Out of the 2000 to 3000 active profiles, how many are here to play (board!) games, and how many are just hanging around? To estimate those numbers, I guess you would have to have access to the server and do what Aganju suggests.

What I'd like to do is to somehow find out if the number of actual people on the site is going up or down. Those multis are disturbing my circles...

17. December 2011, 03:10:21
rod03801 
Emne: Re: Users Stats
Aganju: In my experience, a significant number of multi nics on this site, are here for other reasons than cheating. Many have mind games going on, rather than board games.

17. December 2011, 03:06:44
Aganju 
Emne: Re: Users Stats
pedestrian: The multi-nick (or 'cheater') topic has been discussed a lot, also on other game sites.
On the server end, there are some pretty efficient ways to catch them:
1. IP address comparison.
2. Whenever a user logs on, store the IDs that logged off in the previous three minutes. After ten times, if the same ID is in the list too often, it's with high probability a multi nick.
3. Compare the lists from 1. and 2. with who plays whom. Same user IDs come up, there you go.

You can imagine that with some fiddling and tuning, this would be rather efficient. Unfortunately, you need to have server access, as the IP address for example is otherwise private data.

The next question would be - what do you do with multi-nicks? Delete them and lose all running games? Remove any positive rating efffects from playing between them?

17. December 2011, 02:57:34
pedestrian 
Emne: Re: Users Stats
Aganju: Yes, the number of active profiles is probably in the 2000-3000 range. 

Then there's a "background noise" of people who log on once, then leave again. Seems to be (roughly) 5000 a year, or 100 a week.

And there's some "multinicks" like Bwild suggested, people who keep multiple accounts for whatever reason. But it won't be easy to make an estimate of those.

I may try to keep track of these numbers over time and see if there is any significant change.

17. December 2011, 02:39:53
Aganju 
Emne: Re: Users Stats
pedestrian: Well, realistically, 'active' would mean to me logged on in the last weeks, not even a month, so we look at less than 3000 active users.
On the other hand, that's a lot of people to play with!

17. December 2011, 02:33:46
pedestrian 
Emne: Re: Users Stats
coan.net: Thanks, that's great - very helpful! Now we're getting somewhere :-)

I get these stats:
Number of profiles logged in the last...

... 24 hours: 1907
... 48 hours: 2218
... week: 2617
... month: 3188
... year: 7695

This is a long shot, but does anybody have any idea about the corresponding numbers from earlier times? Did the number of active members go up or down?

17. December 2011, 02:01:28
coan.net 
Emne: Users Stats
You can go to the players list: http://brainking.com/en/PlayerList?a=ap

There, you can click on the headers and easily see how many people have logged into the site in the past XXX time frame

17. December 2011, 00:50:01
pedestrian 
Emne: Re: lol
Aganju: Not looking at any particular time frame, actually. I'll more or less sign up for anything, unless the tournament is designed to take decades.

You're probably right that large tournaments might have a periodic impact on the level of activity, but my hunch is based on long time observations anyway. It just feels like the number of "usual suspects" has decreased.

17. December 2011, 00:42:04
Aganju 
Emne: Re: lol
Tilpasset af Aganju (17. December 2011, 00:43:05)
pedestrian: Which time frame are you looking at with that statement?
When I joined in July, I went into any tournament I could find. After a while, I had over 600 running games, so I slowed down considerably. Then, Adventure X and the Continental Championships started, which gave me 800 more games, so I even removed myself from some pending tournaments.
My point: can such large tournaments make the kind of impact you see?
Once I get back down under 500 games, I will start joining again, and maybe many others too?

17. December 2011, 00:39:22
Bwild 
Emne: Re: lol
Aganju: just shedding a little light through the darkness....but hey some DO care.

17. December 2011, 00:25:14
pedestrian 
Emne: Re: lol
Thad: I get the feeling that the number of active members in slowly decreasing; it seems increasingly difficult to fill tournaments up. But I don't know, it's only a hunch. Maybe Fencer can enlighten us?

17. December 2011, 00:11:20
Thad 
Emne: Re: lol
Bwild: OK, then it would at least give us an upper bound, no? And a better one than the 100,000 we have now. ;-)

17. December 2011, 00:03:00
Aganju 
Emne: Re: lol
Tilpasset af Aganju (17. December 2011, 00:03:44)
Bwild: So what's your point?
Of course BK has not 100000 active distinct users. Nobody thought that.
You believe that FaceBook has 800000000 active distinct users??

16. December 2011, 23:43:50
Bwild 
Emne: Re: lol
Thad: there are those that repeatedly log in under different user names on a dailly basis. throws a big wrench in the numbers game....but hey....looks good on paper. lol

16. December 2011, 23:25:12
Thad 
Emne: Re: lol
I'd be curious to know how many of the 100,000 users have logged in in the last week, month, and year (or maybe six months). Seems like that would give the best indicator of just how many users there are here.

16. December 2011, 22:55:49
Bwild 
Emne: Re: lol
Fencer: just sayin....

16. December 2011, 22:53:08
Fencer 
Emne: Re: lol
Bwild: Thank you for expressing your level of thinking. Now please come back when you have something meaningful to say.

16. December 2011, 22:47:32
Bwild 
Emne: lol
One hundred thousand usersof which 400 are real people ..998,600 are multi nics! and only 4 bonuses left!

16. December 2011, 18:30:17
Fencer 
Emne: Re:
joshi tm: Thanks.
One hundred thousand users and only 4 bonuses left! I would not be surprised if they are gone before Christmas.

16. December 2011, 17:46:12
joshi tm 
I see there are 100001 Brain King users now! Congratulations ;)

15. December 2011, 23:47:16
MadMonkey 
Emne: Re:
Tanein: 99999

15. December 2011, 23:16:32
HelenaTanein 

15. December 2011, 15:02:41
Fencer 
Emne: Re: Curious about numbers
rod03801: That's because there used to be a function "delete user" 10 years ago. A couple of deleted accounts caused this difference.

15. December 2011, 14:50:16
rod03801 
Emne: Curious about numbers
On the log in page, it says 99,997 registered players.
So, I thought that was neat, someone pretty soon, is going to be registered user # 100,000

However, when looking at the player list, as of right now, when I'm typing this, the most recent new user is user #100,103

I assumed it would match up. Just curious why it doesn't?

14. December 2011, 11:52:19
Fencer 
Emne: Re:
furbster: Hehe, yes.

14. December 2011, 11:51:35
furbster 
Emne: Re:
Fencer: 5? hehe

14. December 2011, 08:44:42
Fencer 
Emne: Re:
furbster: 6 codes left.

9. December 2011, 12:29:38
furbster 
RED CODE- the last 3 have been red actually!

6. December 2011, 22:59:47
aaru 
Emne: Re:

6. December 2011, 21:09:09
gogul 
Emne: Re:
Gabriel Almeida: A betting shop. How can bk be so out of date. I'd love to gain my membership by correct tips!

6. December 2011, 20:42:36
Gabriel Almeida 
Emne: Re:
Fencer: Yeah... I got a tournament to win!

6. December 2011, 19:55:16
Fencer 
Emne: Re:
furbster: Looks like it was stuck a couple of years ago. I will check it.

6. December 2011, 19:52:52
furbster 
whats happened here?
Adventure - I

6. December 2011, 19:52:29
gogul 
Emne: Re:
rabbitoid: Why did you have to say this?

6. December 2011, 13:50:57
rabbitoid 
Emne: Re:
Fencer: Give a shout when it's down to 10 so we can all start to sing ten little indians

6. December 2011, 12:46:04
Fencer 
Emne: Re:
furbster: 12 left.

6. December 2011, 12:26:22
furbster 
another 2 red codes down, there can't be many more left now!

5. December 2011, 21:52:27
Bwild 
Emne: Re: Totally nonrelevant number of the day
Gabriel Almeida: there will be that many multi nics in a week...maybe more! lol

5. December 2011, 21:42:48
Gabriel Almeida 
Emne: Re: Totally nonrelevant number of the day
happyjuggler0: 106 more for the "big number"!

5. December 2011, 20:55:10
happyjuggler0 
Emne: Re: Totally nonrelevant number of the day
Gabriel Almeida: http://brainking.com/en/PlayerList?a=ap

In black letters a couple of lines above Fencer's name.

5. December 2011, 20:43:34
Gabriel Almeida 
Emne: Re: Totally nonrelevant number of the day
gogul: where can you (we) see it, gogul?

5. December 2011, 17:12:44
gogul 
Emne: Totally nonrelevant number of the day
99892 registered players

5. December 2011, 16:45:39
Pedro Martínez 
Emne: Re: thisbeme
pedestrian: Thanks, I can see it now.

Interesting, though, that you won't see him complaining about THAT here… he will complain about running out of time (claiming it's a bug), other people sending him unpleasant messages (claiming they are harassing him), and whatnot, but NOT about an obvious bug he must have noticed…

5. December 2011, 16:11:08
pedestrian 
Emne: Re: thisbeme
Pedro Martínez: Fencer is checking it, see November 29th. Seems to have something to do with the light bulb action.

5. December 2011, 15:13:58
Pedro Martínez 
Emne: thisbeme
Vacation days left: 7 days 20 hours

Now how is that possible?

5. December 2011, 01:51:39
Mélusine 
Emne: Re:
happyjuggler0: Yes, sure. I was joking but I totally agree with you. This situation blocks the pawns.

5. December 2011, 01:46:58
happyjuggler0 
Emne: Re:
Mélusine: I'm not the one playing in the tournament. Although "playing" is perhaps not the right word....

5. December 2011, 01:42:52
Mélusine 
happyjuggler0: Luck is with you : there's only one game between each opponent.

5. December 2011, 00:35:49
Aganju 
Hypercarefully!
Especially the first move!

5. December 2011, 00:18:37
Gabriel Almeida 
Emne: Re: auto vacation
happyjuggler0: No, it's not ridiculous, happyjuggler! Notice it is a "Hypergammon game". A move must be carefully studied!

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