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Hrqls: After you select 'Wipeouts' in the first boc, you must click on one of the particular games in the second box. 'Openings', 'Tricks & Traps', 'Wipeouts' etc. are only categories, and each category has many games.
Hrqls: Well, this has already been solved, there are many variations of wipeouts in move #9 and it is not possible to do it earlier. Look at this: http://samsoft.org.uk/reversi/. Click on the 'Wipeouts' item in the top left. I actually lost to '9 move wipeout perpendicular #1' once (that doesn't count, I was a beginner), but, and I am still ashamed of it, I also once lost to '19 move wipeout #1'. And that was after several thousad games :o(
Rose: OK, I apologize. I will respect you as a moderator of this board. I promise this will be my last post on this topic, but I still have something to say.
First, cheating is a problem and IMHO problems should be discussed, not disregarded. And where to discuss cheating in Reversi, if not on a board about Reversi, especially if there is no board about cheating?
Second, 10x10 is a good method. Although there is a program that can play 10x10 very well (and it is almost unbeatable at 6x6), not many cheaters know about it (unfortunately some do). I still prefer Anti reversi because I don't know any reasonably good program and I have noticed cheaters don't play it.
Third, I agree it is hard to tell if someone is a cheater, but not impossible, especially if the cheater is not very careful. I really never accuse anyone unless I am completely sure. I beg you to compare these two games: http://brainking.com/cz/ArchivedGame?g=956421 (note moves g5 and h3, which are particularly tricky) and http://brainking.com/cz/ArchivedGame?g=946267 (note moves c8, d8 and even j9! and i1!, which are particularly bad). When someone (repeatedly) plays an 8x8 game with almost perfect midgame and perfect endgame, something begins to smell. And if his 10x10 game from the same period looks like beginner's, something is definitely wrong. The analysis of a few of his other 8x8 games, either from that period or recent, clearly shows that the perfect play of the mentioned 8x8 game wasn't accidental and unique.
Sorry Rose, but I had to. I never told anyone about any of the cheaters I met here, not even publicly. What made me do it this time was JB's "teaching".
John Baker: I am not trying to imply that you might be using a program. I am saying that you are using a program. I am an experienced Othello player and I know something about this game. I don't usually boast, but I will make an exception for you. I have played more than 16000 games, I won Czech championship once, I have been to 3 world championships (and I ended up 12th last year) and I have analysed many games of world's best players like Hideshi Tamenori (6 times world champion), Ben Seeley (2 times world champion), Suekuni Makoto and others. These top players sometimes do play a perfect endgame, but generally it is rare. If you are so good, you should have no difficulty qualifying for the 2006 world championship in Japan. I will be glad to see you there and apologise for my accusation.
And yes, I have already screwed up a lot of games that were in my control. That's just what being a human means - making mistakes. Also making a mistake in the endgame doesn't necessarily mean to lose the game. You can be winning 44-20 and end up winning 34-30. That's normal and common.
I have met a lot of cheaters, a few of them even here on BK (as I am sure you know, you are not the only one here). I am not always completely sure if someone cheats or not. And it is not my habit to accuse him if I am not sure. But sometimes it is so clear that I can't resist. Especially if he is so cheeky to start a thread about strategies, trying to teach others. Cheaters are a big problem in Reversi on this server, that's why I didn't extend my membership and I am just finishing my games and not starting any new ones. I prefer real-time servers with a cheating detector. Would you believe that one cheater from BK agreed to play with me on such a server? He would switch to another program before his each move and was cheeky enough to say that it was his firewall :o) Funny.
John Baker: Those are very interesting games, especially your perfect endgame from about 38th move! It is very rare to see such a perfection (from a human player...), and two times in a row, WOW!!!
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