Artful Dodger: I respect our difference of opinions on this,but I AM glad to see that you help by recycling and help take care of the environment...I can't ask,nor would I ever ask any of you to change your opionins,THAT is what makes debates fun after all,right,but I am glad that you seem not to take things on this planet for granted

Artful Dodger: seriously?

Bernice: yes,that sounds like the part of it I heard....all kinds of birth defects and stuff??

(V): I'm not implying we are not suppose to be here,I am implying that we take and take and take...we need to stop and look around at what we are doing to this planet.

Artful Dodger: and like I had said...yes,the earth DOES cycle BUT we are overloading it...the population,the polution....hey,did anyone happen to see,there was a report,I want to say maybe Dateline or 20/20...about the most toxic place on earth?? the death rate and cancer rate was through the roof?? anyone see that to know where they were talking about?

Pedro Martínez: why?

Czuch: BTW, last i heard, the ice glaciers were growing again?
could you send me a link on THAT one,I would be interested in reading it.
And yes,I AM suggesting that we are changing nature.
Agreed that the earth goes through her own heating/cooling cycles,but humans and all of our greenhouse gasses and polution and waiste,and definatly adding to the warming effect and essetially throwing off the earths cycle of balance.Put 100 people in a small room,think will eventually start to get warmer?? now have some of them smoke,now have a few cans of hairspray spraying,now have put some animlas in there with ya,maybe a running car or 2...after,oh lets say...not even a day,ya THINK it will start to get a bit nasty in that room?? Even IF you had a good ventalation system installed,one that would have worked perfectly fine for say,you and your family....start throwing other stuff into that mix and you ventilation system doesn't do such a good job anymore does it??
Humans are a parasite...a cancer on this earth,and one day she will have enough of us abusing and taking her for granted and find her own way to get rid of us...I just hope when that day comes,the earth isn't so far beyond it own repair that it becomes a waisteland

Jim Dandy: I agree,one has to start somewhere,thats for sure.
The mess our country is in right now,I don;t think either Obama OR McCain could ahve come into office and solved everything they said they wanted to solve...even if our country WAS in good shape,no person can come into office and do every single thing they say they will or that they really want to..it just isn't logical

Czuch: The globe has gone through many climate changes in its long history, but now we hear people complain they havent seen it so hot in their lifetimes as some sort of definitive irreversible global warming hysteria.
so now global warming doesn't exsist??

Bernice: lol.love it so much I have the symbol for it tattooed onto my ankle ;)

Czuch: honestly,it doesn't bother me to have to pay school taxes even tho I don't have kids,and never will have kids...I think EVERYONE is entitled to a good education,and if thats what my tax dollars are going to,then I am all for it,sure...

Vikings: I don't have kids,nor do I want them,so I have no clue what this vocher thing is...can someone fill me in,please?? I have heard the term on the news but never paid much mind to it

Czuch: OMG...dare I say that I AGREE that you have a good idea there,LMAO!!!

Love this board!! is it for only political debates or all kinds of debates??
This board even still has that "new board smell" to it,LOL!!!

Czuch: if I see the word liberal from you again,I think I will reach the the screen and beat you in the head with it,lol....but sheeple made me gigle..
anywho...I think it was you that posted on GD about how Obama isn't going to do half of the things he promissed...tell me ONE politician that has done everything that he or she has promised to do...show me ONE and I won't beat you in the head with your word
You know I tease about beating you,at least in the head,I don't believe in hitting in the head ;)
My things is...your a good debater..I LOVE to debate,what irks me about you sooo bad is that you always seem to try to make things personal.....that bothers me about you...I have actually come to your defense on things and yet you seem to want to try to attack people,why is that??
Besides the war you think was a good move, what oh so wonderful things has Bush done for the country? Are you really...honestly,REALLY proud of the state that our country is in right now??? I think even IF McCain had gotten in,he couldn't fix everything Bush left (leaves) behind...it will take YEAR and YEARS for that to happen....not everyone will agaree 100% of the time,thats life....I stood behind Bush,in the begining because,even thought I did not vote for him,he was our president and if we,as a nation did not support him how does that make the US look to the rest of the world? I supported him untill I just could not stand to hear his name anymore...actaully,you want to know what the turning point was with him for me....The day he was giving a speech,we were already at was and he was joking...JOKING about the WOMD...are they under the table...nope,not there,giggle,giggle....are you KIDDING ME! We have people over there DYING and he is making a flipping JOKE about it!!?? that is NOT a leader that I could support in any way shape or form...that was just sick!
So tell me WHAT made Bush a great president...what will HE be remembered for in our history books??