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20. november 2010, 19:11:41
Mort 
Teema: Re: Who else on the planet has been hijacking planes and committing untold numbers of terrorist acts around the globe for the past 40 years?
Artful Dodger: many, many peoples. Or has the history of the world been rewritten again amongst the over use of 'constitution'.... freedom, and other sound bites of the moment

20. november 2010, 19:38:27
rod03801 
Teema: Re: Who else on the planet has been hijacking planes and committing untold numbers of terrorist acts around the globe for the past 40 years?
(V): Overuse of "constitution"? That is disgusting!

20. november 2010, 20:48:24
Mort 
Teema: Re: Who else on the planet has been hijacking planes and committing untold numbers of terrorist acts around the globe for the past 40 years?
rod03801: ..... is all those who are American born and known to blow up things or kill others via guns suddenly stopped?

20. november 2010, 21:41:41
Vikings 
Teema: Re: Who else on the planet has been hijacking planes and committing untold numbers of terrorist acts around the globe for the past 40 years?
(V): name the last 3 year old girl in america

20. november 2010, 23:28:29
Mort 
Teema: Re: Who else on the planet has been hijacking planes and committing untold numbers of terrorist acts around the globe for the past 40 years?
Vikings: Born? Or that smuggling is not unknown and children have been used as 'mules'??

20. november 2010, 23:30:33
Vikings 
Teema: Re: Who else on the planet has been hijacking planes and committing untold numbers of terrorist acts around the globe for the past 40 years?
(V): way to change the subject, they are searching for bombs, not drugs. name one

21. november 2010, 00:00:33
Mort 
Teema: Re: Who else on the planet has been hijacking planes and committing untold numbers of terrorist acts around the globe for the past 40 years?
Vikings: ... No, just kids can be used to carry little things around like a chip, money, chemicals.. all sorts of things bomb makers and the relevant supporting organisation needs.

btw.. http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N26176341.htm

btw.. you don't consider drugs a problem?

21. november 2010, 00:04:19
Vikings 
Teema: Re: Who else on the planet has been hijacking planes and committing untold numbers of terrorist acts around the globe for the past 40 years?
(V): Still waiting for an American 3 year old example, you are however making a good case for profiling

21. november 2010, 00:19:40
Mort 
Teema: Re: you are however making a good case for profiling
Vikings: But the likelyhood is that if I board a plane to the USA I'll be scanned just like everyone else boarding a plane does. But having nothing to hide .. who gives a damn... so as to being profiled. Don't mean a thing.

As to finding an American 3 year old example of carrying a bomb... not recorded so far, or not (from missing records) recorded. As to drugs, money, info.. all things that can support terrorism. Can you say no child has ever been used?

22. november 2010, 13:30:35
lizrising 
Teema: Re:
lizrising toimetatud (22. november 2010, 13:31:10)
I wouldn't be so quick to blame the body scanners on Obama. These machines were invented and being talked about back when no one outside of Illinois knew who he was. This is all 9/11 fear-fueled, and this fear has been been driven by the Republican party for years. ("You're either for us or you're against us.") People are complaining now who thought the invasion of privacy from the Patriot Act was okay. Every liberal friend I have who I've heard talk about the scanners is against them.

What's sad about these scans is that they just give us an illusion of security. I heard a TSA agent on the radio, who said that it would be very easy for a terrorist to get ahold of an airport employee badge and get to go through a much slacker security line. They know what's being done in the name of security, and can work around it.

I was chosen for a body scan when I flew in June. I emptied my pockets before I went through, but had forgotten I had a tiny memory card from a camera in the bottom of my pocket. I was pulled aside and asked what was in my pocket, pulled it out and showed the agent, and then was rubbed (not patted) down. This was done in the open as other passengers were standing there. That was the biggest issue I had with it - that they did this in front of any random person standing there. It was definitely very creepy, and this all is part of the reason I decided I'm going to drive instead of fly this Thanksgiving. Sadly, I think their airlines will suffer over this. I think one thing that needs to be done to make us more secure is improve the metal detectors. My stepmom has two metal hips, and half the time she flies the machine doesn't detect them.

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