Walter Montego: Yes a few of the members are avid about it and thats fine.

When I left, I had hoped that would have ended the belittling of me by the few in the f/s that seem to enjoy that.

I wanted only a reasonable and meaningful discussion of the pros and cons. It wasn't my intentions of starting WWIII

Out of respect to Harley and Pedro I am done with the subject until perhaps a later date when everyone can remain civil and have an open discussion.